Grand Jury to bring up charges of treason for Usurping the Office of the Presidency.

Nov 15, 2009
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I never thought of using a Grand Jury to bring up charges of treason for Usurping the Office of the Presidency. They intend on using the 5th Ammendment of the Constitution. This is a different strategy where all other cases have failed and the 5th Ammendment grants them standing. The 5th Amendment is part of the Bill Of Rights. The Bill Of Rights was written specifically for granting certain powers to the people and only the people. The powers for the three branches of government are cited in the body of the Constitution that were enacted two years earlier. The 5th Amendment does not set a minimal standard of evidence. It provides two different methods for the people to bring charges, either by Presentment or indictment, hence the wording "unless on a presentment or indictment". The anarchy would be in allowing any of the three branches of government the power of the grand jury.


Yesterday was a historic day.. and it all happened in the small Tennessee town of Madisonville located in Monroe County

Commander Fitzpatrick arrived at the Monroe County Court with documents and evidence in hand.

WVLT-TV in Knoxville, TN did a live video report. Watch the Video:
Monroe County man seeks indictments on President Obama for treason

Lt. Commander Walter Fitzpatrick has been at the forefront of the Obama “treason” charges since before the election. American Grand Jury has been involved convening Grand Juries that include among other things, the Fitzpatrick “Criminal Complaint” that was filed back in March, 2009 with US Attorney Russell Dedrick and Assistant US Attorney Edward Schmutzer for the Eastern District Tennessee.

Here are the list of Charges. They are precise and to the Point and they make Sense especially when it comes to Obamas mother when she gave birth.
United States District Court - Response to Judge Lamberth

Many are now aware of the “obstruction” of justice that has occurred over the past few months where District Attorney James H. Stutts and Grand Jury Foreman Gary Pettway have refused to let Commander Fitzpatrick appear and testify before the Monroe County Grand Jury. Fitzpatrick’s testimony involves the formal charges of “fraud and treason” against Barack Obama.

That refusal was recently recinded by Monroe County and the offer to now appear before the Grand Jury was extended to Commander Fitzpatrick. Of course, we are guessing that the pending charges of “obstruction” against Stutts and Pettway filed by Fitzpatrick had a lot to do with the Court changing its mind
 
The Constitution defines treason thusly:

"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort." - Article 3, Section 3 United States Constitution

Which exactly is President Obama guilty of?
 
I never thought of using a Grand Jury to bring up charges of treason for Usurping the Office of the Presidency. They intend on using the 5th Ammendment of the Constitution. This is a different strategy where all other cases have failed and the 5th Ammendment grants them standing. The 5th Amendment is part of the Bill Of Rights. The Bill Of Rights was written specifically for granting certain powers to the people and only the people. The powers for the three branches of government are cited in the body of the Constitution that were enacted two years earlier. The 5th Amendment does not set a minimal standard of evidence. It provides two different methods for the people to bring charges, either by Presentment or indictment, hence the wording "unless on a presentment or indictment". The anarchy would be in allowing any of the three branches of government the power of the grand jury.


Yesterday was a historic day.. and it all happened in the small Tennessee town of Madisonville located in Monroe County

Commander Fitzpatrick arrived at the Monroe County Court with documents and evidence in hand.

WVLT-TV in Knoxville, TN did a live video report. Watch the Video:
Monroe County man seeks indictments on President Obama for treason

Lt. Commander Walter Fitzpatrick has been at the forefront of the Obama “treason” charges since before the election. American Grand Jury has been involved convening Grand Juries that include among other things, the Fitzpatrick “Criminal Complaint” that was filed back in March, 2009 with US Attorney Russell Dedrick and Assistant US Attorney Edward Schmutzer for the Eastern District Tennessee.

Here are the list of Charges. They are precise and to the Point and they make Sense especially when it comes to Obamas mother when she gave birth.
United States District Court - Response to Judge Lamberth

Many are now aware of the “obstruction” of justice that has occurred over the past few months where District Attorney James H. Stutts and Grand Jury Foreman Gary Pettway have refused to let Commander Fitzpatrick appear and testify before the Monroe County Grand Jury. Fitzpatrick’s testimony involves the formal charges of “fraud and treason” against Barack Obama.

That refusal was recently recinded by Monroe County and the offer to now appear before the Grand Jury was extended to Commander Fitzpatrick. Of course, we are guessing that the pending charges of “obstruction” against Stutts and Pettway filed by Fitzpatrick had a lot to do with the Court changing its mind

Just wanted to jump in here before this is thrown in the "conspiracy theory" corner with all the other "birther" non-sense.

1.) Citizen's "grand juries" are simply another word for "citizen's mob". They have no legal authority and have been (and will continue to be) ignored by the legal system.

2.) The birthers are something like 0-80 on court cases and motions. You don't get to create special courts, simply because you can't win in real court.

3.) Any citizen does not have standing to sue the President over eligibility. Before people piss and moan about that, please recall Bush v. Gore in 2000. If any single citizen could stymie the electorial process by filing suit against the president, then any dissatisfied citizen could prevent the seating of a president. It would be a de facto road block to the electorial process.

4.) Military officers do not have standing to sue the President over eligibility. The was recently re-affirmed in the "Rhodes" case.

5.) The judicial branch does not have the power to remove a seated President. Only the legislative branch can do that. This was recently re-affirmed in the "Keyes" case.

6.) Walter Fitzpatrick is a disgraced Naval Officer who was court martialed for the miss-appropriation of MWR funds. He was allowed to retire with his rank. Due to that incident, Fitzpatrick has had a 20 year grudge against the government. He maintains he was railroaded, but that has not been the finding of anyone but Fitzpatrick. He, frankly, appears to be unstable and has called for the conviction of every President since Reagan.

Like Tatiz, the birthers pick the most bizarre people to shack up with. Not surprising, considering how crazy their position is.
 
Whoops. This was an actual grand jury (well, a panal of three), not a "citizen's grand jury". I am sure this will go over like a lead balloon.

I think this quote from Fitzpatrick is telling:

"I am sworn to do an obedience to the constitution and do everything I can do to remove him from office, by force of law (misquoted in the typed story to say "force of war". The actual quote is at the end). And if not, then by force," says Fitzpatrick.
 
Look lets just say for shits and giggles Obama isn't a Citizen of the USA. Does anyone really think that any real investigation will happen? Do they think anything will change?

I mean really, Obama could slip and say he isn't a citizen right now and still nothing would be done about it.

This guy is frustrated and has every right to bring it to court, this will not go anywhere.
 
Grand Jury to bring up charges of treason for Usurping the Office of the Presidency.

No, it isn't :lol:



Fitzpatrick has also sought indictments against Grand Jury Foreman Gary Pettway and Assistant District Attorney Jim Stutts, saying they are guilty of obstruction of justice in his attempts to indict the president.

Pettway declined to comment on the charges against him, saying he would wait to see if he was actually indicted, but said he believes the Obama case is over and has been for a while as you cannot indict someone in a county they've never set foot in.

Fitzpatrick plans to convince a local grand jury in a Madisonville, Tennessee courthouse that Barack Obama is in fact Barry Soetoro and not a legal citizen of the United States. Conveniently, Monroe County is one of the few places in the nation where any ordinary citizen can show up with a petition and seek an indictment. In most counties, only a prosecutor can do so.

This isn’t the first time Fitzpatrick has attempted to unseat the President, however. In August he filed a brief that contained this bizarre diatribe:

OBAMA-SOETORO IS MY SWORN ENEMY! - And as there were TRAITORS to Italy in Caesars day, I report to this GRAND JURY with force and authority there are senior military officers no more obedient to the CONSTITUTION than their criminal DICTATOR, OBAMA-SOETORO.​

That unhinged rant landed him a visit from the Secret Service.

Although Fitzpatrick supporters see his past military service—he is a retired Navy lieutenant commander—as proof of his integrity and patriotism, in 1990 he was court-martialed for financial negligence. His career ended soon after.

But to see the real Fitzpatrick, all one needs is a quick visit to his blog, Jag Hunter. The site is mostly a mash-up of moderately racist political cartoons featuring scary looking Muslims and grammatically incorrect declarations of war against the White House: "MUSLIM’S HAVE DECLARED WAR ON AMERICA! OBAMA IS MY SWORN ENEMY! MAKE HIM YOURS!"

Dan Carter: Birther To Accuse Obama Of Treason In TN Courthouse - Really - Air America


The JAG HUNTER


Fitzpatrick is a certifiable lunatic.
 
Look lets just say for shits and giggles Obama isn't a Citizen of the USA. Does anyone really think that any real investigation will happen? Do they think anything will change?

I mean really, Obama could slip and say he isn't a citizen right now and still nothing would be done about it.

This guy is frustrated and has every right to bring it to court, this will not go anywhere.

Fitzpatrick has been frustrated ever since he was court martialed.

Jousting at windmills will do nothing to alleviate his neurosis though.
 
OBAMA-SOETORO IS MY SWORN ENEMY! - And as there were TRAITORS to Italy in Caesars day, I report to this GRAND JURY with force and authority there are senior military officers no more obedient to the CONSTITUTION than their criminal DICTATOR, OBAMA-SOETORO.​

And perhaps the greatest traitor to ROME (Italy???? What the hell did they teach you at Annapolis, Walt?), was Ceaser himself who crossed the Rubicon with his Army and seized power.

Fitzpatrick is just still living in a world where he thinks his rank means more than a retirement grade.
 
The Constitution defines treason thusly:

"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort." - Article 3, Section 3 United States Constitution Which exactly is President Obama guilty of?

"adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort"

1. By disclosing CIA interrogation methods during time of war such that the enemy can train to resist interrogation.

2. by prosecuting CIA agents for doing their duty

3. by giving enemy combatants the rights and privileges of US citizens. Making US soldiers give enemy combatants Miranda Rights

4. Eric Holder couldn't answer the questions at a recent hearing:
Holder appeared stumped when Graham asked, "Can you give me a case in United States history where a enemy combatant caught on a battlefield was tried in civilian court?"


There are many others. If Napolitano is right and the terrorists attack in the US again, there will be many more instances of failure to protect the US due to political correctness.
 
The Constitution defines treason thusly:

"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort." - Article 3, Section 3 United States Constitution Which exactly is President Obama guilty of?

"adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort"

1. By disclosing CIA interrogation methods during time of war such that the enemy can train to resist interrogation.

2. by prosecuting CIA agents for doing their duty

3. by giving enemy combatants the rights and privileges of US citizens. Making US soldiers give enemy combatants Miranda Rights

4. Eric Holder couldn't answer the questions at a recent hearing:
Holder appeared stumped when Graham asked, "Can you give me a case in United States history where a enemy combatant caught on a battlefield was tried in civilian court?"


There are many others. If Napolitano is right and the terrorists attack in the US again, there will be many more instances of failure to protect the US due to political correctness.

I see...the CIA doesn't work for the President. It is above the law. I see.
 
Treason???

Some people have too much time on their hands. The Right Wing lunatic fringe is always good for a laugh
 
The Constitution defines treason thusly:

"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort." - Article 3, Section 3 United States Constitution Which exactly is President Obama guilty of?

"adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort"

1. By disclosing CIA interrogation methods during time of war such that the enemy can train to resist interrogation.

2. by prosecuting CIA agents for doing their duty

3. by giving enemy combatants the rights and privileges of US citizens. Making US soldiers give enemy combatants Miranda Rights

4. Eric Holder couldn't answer the questions at a recent hearing:
Holder appeared stumped when Graham asked, "Can you give me a case in United States history where a enemy combatant caught on a battlefield was tried in civilian court?"


There are many others. If Napolitano is right and the terrorists attack in the US again, there will be many more instances of failure to protect the US due to political correctness.

1. Torture is illegal.

2. Those who do torture should be prosecuted.

3. We shouldn't blame Obama for actually following the Constitution for a change.

4. He probably couldn't do that because "enemy combatant" is a term that originated under the Bush administration to refer to those people who Bush detained indefinitely without a trial and then tortured.
 
The Constitution defines treason thusly:

"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort." - Article 3, Section 3 United States Constitution Which exactly is President Obama guilty of?

"adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort"

1. By disclosing CIA interrogation methods during time of war such that the enemy can train to resist interrogation.

2. by prosecuting CIA agents for doing their duty

3. by giving enemy combatants the rights and privileges of US citizens. Making US soldiers give enemy combatants Miranda Rights

4. Eric Holder couldn't answer the questions at a recent hearing:
Holder appeared stumped when Graham asked, "Can you give me a case in United States history where a enemy combatant caught on a battlefield was tried in civilian court?"


There are many others. If Napolitano is right and the terrorists attack in the US again, there will be many more instances of failure to protect the US due to political correctness.

1. Torture is illegal.

2. Those who do torture should be prosecuted.

3. We shouldn't blame Obama for actually following the Constitution for a change.

4. He probably couldn't do that because "enemy combatant" is a term that originated under the Bush administration to refer to those people who Bush detained indefinitely without a trial and then tortured.


While also giving them top notch medical care and treatment while in Gitmo...The "terrorist" detainees Bush threw down there have better healthcare than we do! :eek:

We should bring Bush up on charges of giving comfort to the enemy...
 

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