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No. They chose to rationalize their decision and blame God for their mistake.

is that you moses ...

no, they chose self determination - not servitude and denial ... and were granted their wish by the heavens.
 
is that you moses ...

no, they chose self determination - not servitude and denial ... and were granted their wish by the heavens.
Eve yielded to temptation :dev3:; Adam yielded to Eve's nagging.
 
Eve yielded to temptation :dev3:; Adam yielded to Eve's nagging.

they were given a choice - by the heavens, free will or servitude.

the liar moses is the serpent of eden and for those who listens to them.
 
is that you moses ...

no, they chose self determination - not servitude and denial ... and were granted their wish by the heavens.
They chose to rationalize their decision and blame God for their mistake.
 
They chose to rationalize their decision and blame God for their mistake.

never ...

they chose the option given by the heavens - to be aware for their own self determination - not the serpent and servitude.

that was the serpent eve defied and then by adam, same as jesus they are not judaism the false religion of servitude.
 
never ...

they chose the option given by the heavens - to be aware for their own self determination - not the serpent and servitude.

that was the serpent eve defied and then by adam, same as jesus they are not judaism the false religion of servitude.
The 'serpent' became part of Eve and has been ever since. When God talked to the serpent he was looking right at Eve.:omg:
 
You are about as dishonest as you can be.
















^^^ here's my evidence which proves men wrote the bible.
Well then, I presented my evidence that they didn't in post 51. I notice you didn't copy and paste that part. Curious. Should I append it for your benefit?
 
never ...

they chose the option given by the heavens - to be aware for their own self determination - not the serpent and servitude.

that was the serpent eve defied and then by adam, same as jesus they are not judaism the false religion of servitude.
Sure they did. Rather than admit it was their fault they blamed someone else. You are speaking gobbledygook.
 
Well then, I presented my evidence that they didn't in post 51. I notice you didn't copy and paste that part. Curious. Should I append it for your benefit?
I'd love for you to respond to each and every author cited in that link.
 
I'd love for you to respond to each and every author cited in that link.
Are you planning on doing the same to each author in the link I presented?
 
The 'serpent' became part of Eve and has been ever since.
Where do you get this stuff?

you appear nearly beyond redemption -

if not too late, lose your christian bible the heavens not the forgeries, lies and fallacies will again appear to you ... eve's spirit as all beings is inviolable - moses is just trying to scare you into submission the false religion of judaism, all three desert religions.
 
Are you planning on doing the same to each author in the link I presented?
Why would I need to do that? You are claiming God wrote it. I am claiming men wrote it. If you are changing your position that the authors of the Torah were men, then there's nothing to discuss.
 
they chose the option given by the heavens - to be aware for their own self determination - not the serpent and servitude.
Sure they did. Rather than admit it was their fault they blamed someone else. You are speaking gobbledygook.

no, you are speaking for the serpent, moses - and their lies.
 
no, you are speaking for the serpent, moses - and their lies.
Read the passage. It's exactly as I described. They were asked point blank if they did it. Rather than saying yes, they made excuses why they did it. That's when God lowered the boom on them. Until then it was a friendly discussion.

But none of that actually happened. It's an allegorical story.
 
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you appear nearly beyond redemption -

if not too late, lose your christian bible the heavens not the forgeries, lies and fallacies will again appear to you ... eve's spirit as all beings is inviolable - moses is just trying to scare you into submission the false religion of judaism, all three desert religions.
Too late, I've already been redeemed. :bowdown:
 
Read the passage. It's exactly as I described. They were asked point blank if they did it. Rather than saying yes, they made excuses why they did it. That's when God lowered the boom on them. Until then it was a friendly discussion.

But none of that actually happened. It's an allegorical story.
God told Eve she would eat dirt and give birth from her womb (go on her belly). I believe that is still happening.
 
Why would I need to do that? You are claiming God wrote it. I am claiming men wrote it. If you are changing your position that the authors of the Torah were men, then there's nothing to discuss.
I'm claiming something like that, so there is nothing to discuss.
 
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