GOP working on legislation to strip Twitter of federal liability protections

[Frankeneinstein]

Twitter owns the site, they can regulate content

but there has to be an SOP of even handedness for it to be legal, you can rent an apartment in your home but cannot refuse to rent on the grounds of sexual preferrance.

 

[Ken Mac]

OP,

Post specifically what Trump should have done and on what dates?

Give us a timeline of actions.

Be specific:

Date Action

The OP will have to go back and look at the timeline and fabricate an answer to suit their point. But, that will never happen because they can't answer you question. No one can. Not one politician offered up any suggestions on actions and Trump was ahead of all of them. They are pathetic.

 

[Aldo Raine]

We are in the midst of a pandemic. The U.S. has nearly a third of the world's confirmed cases. The U.S. has nearly a third of the world's deaths from the virus.

What is our President doing?

He is attacking Twitter.

Trump got hostile when Twitter attempted to correct Trump's outright lies in a tweet.

Trump on Thursday is set to sign an executive order that could open the door for federal regulators to punish Facebook, Google and Twitter for the way they police content online.

Trump prefers Twitter allow his lies to stand unchallenged.

The Post writes, "Trump has portrayed the expected order, the early details of which were first reported by The Washington Post late Wednesday, as an attempt to stamp out political bias on the part of the country’s largest social media platforms. His directive comes days after Twitter steered viewers of some of the president’s tweets to news articles that fact-checked his claims, a move Trump said was a form of censorship.

"But advocates for the tech sector, lawmakers in Congress and a variety of legal experts from across the political spectrum Thursday doubted the legality of Trump’s draft proposal and feared its implications for free speech. Others questioned whether the U.S. government even could carry out the order as the president intended."

Trump has been stupid enough to make the news media the enemy, calling it "fake news." That is beyond stupid because the media always has the last word, and it can pick and chose how it covers Trump, his statements and his deeds.

Now the fool is taking on the tech sector, which may have even more influence on how Americans think.

In the meantime, over 100,000 Americans have died from the coronavirus.

It is a little known concept for libtards called "freedom of speech"!

Nobody stopped him from saying what he said, try again.

 

[Ken Mac]

TDS thread 1,636

I'll have to update my count. I had 1,632. Thanks!

 

[Damaged Eagle]

Hmm....So you now support elected officials using their office to punish their perceived political enemies? Curious.

The only thing 'curious' is how you got the ridiculous bullshit you wrote above from Republicans taking action to protect / defend Free Speech and ensure the govt does not offer protection from accountability to private companies attempting to prevent the equal /fair exchange of ideas and discussion.

Oh wait - it's not curious at all. It all makes sense:

View attachment 342108

Sure. Protect the "free speech" of the president.

It is curious that you either don't see it or you're fine with it. Curious because you lost your shit when you thought Obama did that with the IRS. You're still losing your shit over Obamagate.
Yet here you are cheering for legislstors to change laws for no other reason than to accomodate the president while at the same time, punishing his enemies.

You're comparing apples and oranges. However if you do want to compare the two... Obama weaponized the IRS against people who opposed him namely conservatives by auditing them just because of who they were and Twitter apparently wants to be weaponized against the same people namely conservatives. Sounds like there's some cultural discrimination going on there.

Are you saying that liberal posters won't be able to post if this goes through? I seriously doubt that might happen.

*****CHUCKLE******

 

[colfax_m]

Section 230 protects social media platforms from facing lawsuits over what users post.

If this goes through I'll initially set the over-under percentage of users banned here at USMB at 50%. Too low? Too High?

We're all anonymous. Who is going to sue USMB?

Anyone who feels that any poster has defamed them.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Gaetz is virtue signaling. His little hissy fit has no chance at doing anything.

Second, if his bill did pass, the result would be the immediate removal of Trump from the platform.

The sole intention of this episode is to intimidate Twitter like the thugs they are.

What is really going on is that Trump has found a way to talk to America without a left wing media filter and that is unacceptable in any left wing society, just look at how long the left/white liberals have been complaining about trumps tweets, this is just the latest attempt on their part to filter the information in a way that is acceptable to them.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Hmm....So you now support elected officials using their office to punish their perceived political enemies? Curious.

The only thing 'curious' is how you got the ridiculous bullshit you wrote above from Republicans taking action to protect / defend Free Speech and ensure the govt does not offer protection from accountability to private companies attempting to prevent the equal /fair exchange of ideas and discussion.

Oh wait - it's not curious at all. It all makes sense:

View attachment 342108

Sure. Protect the "free speech" of the president.

It is curious that you either don't see it or you're fine with it. Curious because you lost your shit when you thought Obama did that with the IRS. You're still losing your shit over Obamagate.
Yet here you are cheering for legislstors to change laws for no other reason than to accomodate the president while at the same time, punishing his enemies.

View attachment 342145

You're comparing apples and oranges. However if you do want to compare the two... Obama weaponized the IRS against people who opposed him namely conservatives by auditing them just because of who they were and Twitter apparently wants to be weaponized against the same people namely conservatives. Sounds like there's some cultural discrimination going on there.

Are you saying that liberal posters won't be able to post if this goes through? I seriously doubt that might happen.

*****CHUCKLE******

Are you saying that liberal posters won't be able to post if this goes through? I seriously doubt that might happen.

I'm not saying that at all, dope.
Re-read your own post and see if you can find the flaws in your logic.

 

[colfax_m]

Gaetz is virtue signaling. His little hissy fit has no chance at doing anything.

Second, if his bill did pass, the result would be the immediate removal of Trump from the platform.

The sole intention of this episode is to intimidate Twitter like the thugs they are.

What is really going on is that Trump has found a way to talk to America without a left wing media filter and that is unacceptable in any left wing society, just look at how long the left/white liberals have been complaining about trumps tweets, this is just the latest attempt on their part to filter the information in a way that is acceptable to them.

“Found a way”? Twitter didn’t just happen naturally. It’s the product of years or hard work and a huge success story.

Trump is just using the work of others to suit his own purposes and threatening them for not acquiescing to his demands.

 

[Ken Mac]

Twitter does not have the right to censor political posts simply because it disagrees with the content.

I think we can all agree with that. This isn't a matter of disagreement. It's a matter of fact checking..............as in Trump's tweet contained a demonstrable lie.

Yeah?

Here is twitters response:

"Trump makes unsubstantiated claim that mail-in ballots will lead to voter fraud
On Tuesday, President Trump made a series of claims about potential voter fraud after California Governor Gavin Newsom announced an effort to expand mail-in voting in California during the COVID-19 pandemic. These claims are unsubstantiated, according to CNN, Washington Post and others. Experts say mail-in ballots are very rarely linked to voter fraud."

Their very first sentence is a lie. There have been over 20 case of elections being overturned due to mail in voting fraud since 1993. I'm not posting a fucking link either. Go look it up. It's all over the place. There is plenty of substantiating evidence.

So now we have to fact check Twitter's fact check. And they used CNN and WAPO as sources. YCMTSU. The most biased major media sites. What a crock of shit.

You're very much wrong.

 

[Ken Mac]

If they are going to fact check posts they need to fact check evenly and fairly....even Fakebook agrees with me....

Indeed. That means Trump's ravings need to be fact-checked and corrected far, far more often. Facebook and Twitter have been allowing Trump to lie openly without correction for far too long.

Both sides evenly...if they are going to fact check it needs to be across the board...Twitter has set themselves up for libel suits....

Twitter is under no obligarion to be fair or impartial. Our first amendment allows them to be as unfair as they want.

You're right - they aren't. But up until now they have had a liability shield for their platform. Well that shit isn't gonna happen anymore. They considered themselves a "platform" not a content provider. BIG difference. They are now a content provider by their action.

 

[rightwinger]

Twitter owns the site, they can regulate content

but there has to be an SOP of even handedness for it to be legal, you can rent an apartment in your home but cannot refuse to rent on the grounds of sexual preferrance.

Actually, they can be as biased as they wish
If they want a site that is far left or far right, they can act accordingly.

Nobody says life is fair

 

[Ken Mac]

"President Trump is set to roll out a new executive order designed to punish Twitter for daring to attach a mild fact-check to his false tweets about vote-by-mail. This debate will get thorny, so let’s first state clearly exactly what Trump is trying to accomplish here:

• Trump wants to be able to lie on Twitter and other platforms with total impunity, free of any fact-checking.
• Trump doesn’t want Twitter to inform people of options for voting safely amid a pandemic, in hopes that fear of sickness and death will discourage voting and keep turnout low, to his benefit.

Now that Trump is trying to use the power of the state toward those profoundly corrupt goals, this marks a new low for Trump’s legacy of lies."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/05/28/trump-has-told-16000-lies-now-hes-trying-silence-those-who-correct-him/

Actually that isn't what he wants. What he wants is to be treated fairly. His actions had nothing to do not letting twitter "fact check" and everything to do with liability. Why don't you bone up a little on the subject, huh?

You're post is full of lies. From top to bottom.

Dorsey! Where the fuck are you? We need a fact check on isle 10 TDS Post # 1,636.

 

[Mac1958]

We are in the midst of a pandemic. The U.S. has nearly a third of the world's confirmed cases. The U.S. has nearly a third of the world's deaths from the virus. What is our President doing? He is attacking Twitter.

He has the temperament of a child. His self esteem is so brittle that he can't rise above anything.

But far worse, those who refuse to hold him accountable for anything only enable more of this kind of behavior.

 

[Ken Mac]

Gaetz is virtue signaling. His little hissy fit has no chance at doing anything.

Second, if his bill did pass, the result would be the immediate removal of Trump from the platform.

The sole intention of this episode is to intimidate Twitter like the thugs they are.

Like what LGBTQRSTUVs do with bakeries? Intimidate them like the thugs they are?

This has nothing to do with that

So legislation has nothing to do with other legislation built off the same premise?
Lol ok

The rationale for public accommodation laws does not apply to social media websites.

This is not the same premise.

Guess you need to contact webster and have him redefine what a business is, because you are wrong at this point.

A few big problems for you. First, public accommodation laws don’t apply to every business. Second, public accommodation laws don’t apply to discrimination based on political views. Third, this is not an instance of discrimination based solely on political view even if that were possible.

They are acting as the arbiter of what should be fact checked. That is a subjective understanding and is editorializing. They are, indeed, subject to Liabel now and the Prez is making sure of it. Nice job Trump!

Insofar as their “fact check” was Twitter’s own speech, yes they are subject to liability for their own statements. You don’t need any changes for that. If Trump wants to sue then for their statement because it was libelous he’s welcome.

But it’ll be thrown out pretty quickly.

We do need changes - The executive order is making it quite clear that they are now a content provider.

They WERE NOT subject to liability prior to their "fact check" post.

Fuck. I'm gonna have to fact check every fucking post of yours and others here now. Where is Dorsey when you need him.

People - There is a possibility that you are being mislead on this message board by some of the posts. Please do your best to determine the truth by reading and getting educated. Do not add to the misinformation as it may be harmful to you and others!

 

[Ken Mac]

Twitter owns the site, they can regulate content

but there has to be an SOP of even handedness for it to be legal, you can rent an apartment in your home but cannot refuse to rent on the grounds of sexual preferrance.

Actually, they can be as biased as they wish
If they want a site that is far left or far right, they can act accordingly.

Nobody says life is fair

Not when they are considering themselves a Platform! What you are saying is a complete lie. God dam it Dorsey - the isle is filled with lies and misinformation here in TDS post number 1,636.

 

[Lakhota]

We are in the midst of a pandemic. The U.S. has nearly a third of the world's confirmed cases. The U.S. has nearly a third of the world's deaths from the virus.

What is our President doing?

He is attacking Twitter.

Trump got hostile when Twitter attempted to correct Trump's outright lies in a tweet.

Trump on Thursday is set to sign an executive order that could open the door for federal regulators to punish Facebook, Google and Twitter for the way they police content online.

Trump prefers Twitter allow his lies to stand unchallenged.

The Post writes, "Trump has portrayed the expected order, the early details of which were first reported by The Washington Post late Wednesday, as an attempt to stamp out political bias on the part of the country’s largest social media platforms. His directive comes days after Twitter steered viewers of some of the president’s tweets to news articles that fact-checked his claims, a move Trump said was a form of censorship.

"But advocates for the tech sector, lawmakers in Congress and a variety of legal experts from across the political spectrum Thursday doubted the legality of Trump’s draft proposal and feared its implications for free speech. Others questioned whether the U.S. government even could carry out the order as the president intended."

Trump has been stupid enough to make the news media the enemy, calling it "fake news." That is beyond stupid because the media always has the last word, and it can pick and chose how it covers Trump, his statements and his deeds.

Now the fool is taking on the tech sector, which may have even more influence on how Americans think.

In the meantime, over 100,000 Americans have died from the coronavirus.

It is a little known concept for libtards called "freedom of speech"!

You mean "freedom of HATE speech" and lies?

 

[OldLady]

but there has to be an SOP of even handedness for it to be legal,

I've heard plenty of conservatives here say that they've been banned from this and that site for being conservatives. Why is it legal for those sites but not for Twitter? I don't understand.

 

[meaner gene]

It is a little known concept for libtards called "freedom of speech"!

Freedom of speech is exactly what twitter did. Instead of taking a voice away, they added another voice to the conversation

 

[colfax_m]

We do need changes - The executive order is making it quite clear that they are now a content provider.

The executive order can not rewrite legislation. Twitter is not liable for the content of their users. If they were, Trump would be kicked off immediately.