Generating electricity for cities in cities

[Toddsterpatriot]

there is a cliff along the shore of all the great lakes, rivers create cliffs next to them by carving the land, so any city by a river?

I'm next to Lake Michigan, I don't see any cliffs in Chicago.

 

[trevorjohnson83]

I'm next to Lake Michigan, I don't see any cliffs in Chicago.

are there any cities with big cliffs nearby?

ChatGPT said:​

Yes—many cities sit next to striking cliffs or escarpments.
Here are some good examples on different continents:

North America

• San Diego, California, USA – Coastal bluffs like the Torrey Pines and Sunset Cliffs.
• Quebec City, Canada – Perched on the Cap-Diamant cliffs above the St. Lawrence River.
• Boulder, Colorado, USA – At the base of the dramatic Flatirons rock faces.

South America

• Rio de Janeiro, Brazil – Iconic granite cliffs such as Sugarloaf and Corcovado rise right out of the city.
• Valparaíso, Chile – Hills and coastal cliffs drop straight to the Pacific.

Europe

• Edinburgh, Scotland – The volcanic Salisbury Crags and Arthur’s Seat overlook the city.
• Lisbon, Portugal (nearby Sintra coast) – Steep Atlantic sea cliffs within a short drive.
• Monaco / Nice, France – The Maritime Alps plunge toward the Mediterranean.

Asia

• Hong Kong – Rugged cliffs on islands and in country parks just minutes from downtown.
• Muscat, Oman – Mountain cliffs meet the Arabian Sea around the old port.

Africa

• Cape Town, South Africa – Table Mountain and the Twelve Apostles are sheer sandstone cliffs above the city.

Oceania

• Sydney, Australia – The sandstone sea cliffs of the Eastern Suburbs and the nearby Blue Mountains.

If you have a region in mind—like within the U.S. or Europe—I can narrow it to cities with easy public access or notable hiking viewpoints.

 

[sparky]

so why did the hydropower plant down the street from me crash/burn?

~S~

 

[1srelluc]

so why did the hydropower plant down the street from me crash/burn?

~S~

There one in my AO (Warren Power Dam) on the main branch of the Shenandoah River that has been operating since 1924.

That said a lot of smaller municipal power dams went out of business when they had to start buying power from outside their AOs due to growth. It was just not cost effective to keep them running.

LOL.....In 1901 we had a small one along a creek that just powered Main Street! You can see remnants of it today.

 

[sparky]

There one in my AO (Warren Power Dam) on the main branch of the Shenandoah River that has been operating since 1924.

That said a lot of smaller municipal power dams went out of business when they had to start buying power from outside their AOs due to growth. It was just not cost effective to keep them running.

LOL.....In 1901 we had a small one along a creek that just powered Main Street! You can see remnants of it today.

similar story and timeline up my way relluc.....seems this was all said & done quite a while ago.......~S~

 

[ding]

Heat doesn’t create power from solar panels, photons do.

The somewhat thicker atmosphere of most cities would block more sunlight than rural areas, not to mention the shade from surrounding buildings.

Yes, and any photons converted into electricity are photons which do not heat the surface of the planet.

 

[Hafar1014]

Explain what is real about it.

Low cost and reliable unlike renewable energy

 

[Hafar1014]

Yes, and any photons converted into electricity are photons which do not heat the surface of the planet.

Green plants need that energy

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yes, and any photons converted into electricity are photons which do not heat the surface of the planet.

Yes, and any photons converted into electricity are photons which do not get reflected back to space.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Low cost and reliable unlike renewable energy

His fake street level dam isn't either.

 

[Hafar1014]

Yes, and any photons converted into electricity are photons which do not get reflected back to space.

This discussion is beneath stupidity

 

[ding]

Yes, and any photons converted into electricity are photons which do not get reflected back to space.

Or heat the surface of the planet.

 

[ding]

This discussion is beneath stupidity

How so?

 

[westwall]

similar story and timeline up my way relluc.....seems this was all said & done quite a while ago.......~S~

That was during the DC power era. DC current doesn't travel far, so the power plants were built as close to downtown as possible.

 

[1srelluc]

This discussion is beneath stupidity

Well, truth be told you are about as welcome in a discussion as Shingles.

 

[1srelluc]

That was during the DC power era. DC current doesn't travel far, so the power plants were built as close to downtown as possible.

Perhaps, I really don't know the particulars of the plant. I know it was privately held at first then bought by the town.

This is all I could find out. I did not catch the part were the first one was steam plant!

Makes sense as there was no dam on the creek to speak of just the remnants of a small concrete impoundment....I used to play around it as a kid.

In 1891, the Royal Power Company received a franchise from the Town to serve electricity.

The company built a small steam electric generating plant on East 4th Street by Happy Creek and went into operation around 1892, serving a few customers and Town street lights.

In 1893, the company went bankrupt and went out of business. In 1894, the Town Council authorized a referendum to borrow $8,000.00 to buy the power plant and lines. So, in 1894, the Town of Front Royal starting supplying electricity to Town citizens.

In 1904, the Town purchased the Kenner's Dam and started construction of a hydro generator plant to supplement the steam plant to accommodate the power needs for the Town. The Riverton Hydro Plant served the Town customers until 1930.

From 1894 until 1918, the Town of Front Royal was able to produce all their electrical needs. But in 1918, the Town had to supplement their energy requirements from an outside source, which was contracted through the Northern Virginia Power Company. By 1930, the Town was put into a position of establishing a wholesale power contract in some ways similar to the way we have been doing business to date.

History | Front Royal, VA

www.frontroyalva.com

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Or heat the surface of the planet.

Any photon that reaches Earth and isn't reflected will heat the Earth.

 

[ding]

Any photon that reaches Earth and isn't reflected will heat the Earth.

You mean through waste heat from electricity usage? What about waste heat from burning fossil fuels?

 

[ReinyDays]

That said a lot of smaller municipal power dams went out of business when they had to start buying power from outside their AOs due to growth. It was just not cost effective to keep them running.

Here in The West ... we also built small local hydroelectric plants ... we also built ginormous facilities and the economies of scale just stripped any cost savings away from these local plants ...

Our local dam is still up and the old abandoned powerhouse is still standing ... next to the original ice house for which the original hydro-turbines were installed for in the first place ... so understandably, the need to have ice delivered to our doors is long past ... and these lil' baby one-off hydro-dams can't compete with the Mighty Columbia or Tennessee rivers now we have an international (except Texas) grid structure ...

Ellipses for gender equality ... no one should be judged by their periods ...

 

[ReinyDays]

You mean through waste heat from electricity usage? What about waste heat from burning fossil fuels?

This is the advantage of roof top installations ... keeping photons off the asphalt "three-tab" type shingles will prolong the life of this rather expensive item ...

I also used white ... so photons would reflect and not add to temperature ... it may seem counter intuitive, but it's solar radiation that destroys asphalt roofs ... the tar evaporates and/or breaks down into the "Satanic Evil Spawn of Satan" carbon dioxide ...