cnelsen, you want troll and stroll, not discuss, so "no."
Hahahaha, that's funny, you want to throw around the term fascist and can't even define it. You just learned somewhere that if a Jew wants to insult a white person, that's what they say. I called you out and you lost, lightweight.
He just keeps repeating like a broken record, that fascism is a mirror of the "alt-right," even though I deconstructed anylitically the definition and compared the two candidates for him. IOW, he had nothing.
Here's a copy of the post he just ignored. . . .
We have already established beyond a shadow of a doubt, that YOU are the more fascist one on the board.
Let's have a run down, shall we?
The 14 characteristics are:
The 14 Characteristics of Fascism, by Lawrence Britt, Spring 2003
- Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
In this regard, you are probably right, Trump comes off as the bigger nationalist.
- Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
Clearly, Hillary wins this point.
- Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
Hillary's Alt-right speech, declaring Americans as the enemy, i.e. deplorable, and telling everyone that anything they hear bad about her is a "conspiracy theory" only to be proved a lie by Wikileaks? I think we can safely put this one again in her column.
- Supremacy of the Military
Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
Hillary promises to continue the obscene miltaristic policies where the Obama administration has intervened militarily in over 130 nations. Enough said on this one.
- Rampant Sexism
The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.
Sex, Sex, Sex. OMG, that is all we hear about, if it weren't for making a war on women, and creating a division between men and women, Hillary could not even run a campaign. On the other hand, Trump does a pretty good showing on this point. We'll have to give this round to Trump.
- Controlled Mass Media
Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
Well, this one is a no brainer, everyone knows from the Wikileaks that the media is completely controlled by the Clinton campaign.
- Obsession with National Security
Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
Again, Hillary scares folks into thinking that the US will be unsafe with Trump. She is obsessed with making war.
- Religion and Government are Intertwined
Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.
I don't think either candidate seriously has a design on having religion intertwined with government, but if any candidate would, that would be Trump.
- Corporate Power is Protected
The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
All we have to do is note that Hillary refuses to release the texts of those corporate speeches, look at what we know of the Wikileaks excerpts from those speeches, and see who has given more to which campaign.
On top of that, we see who has said what and where they stand on the ATT/Time Warner merger, who supports the ACA, and who has what views on the ACA.
- Labor Power is Suppressed
Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed .
This one is murky at best. Generally I would say Trump would be guilty of it, but labor is getting sick of the Unions, they have been betrayed.
- Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.
I don't think this one any longer applies. If you understand how private foundations work, and how the private elites use them to construct the shadow government, neo-facists will use and fund the intelligentsia to their advantage. Thus, you really can't use this as a metric anymore.
- Obsession with Crime and Punishment
Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.
I think both are guilty of this, but Trump is probably ahead in this category. Hillary is worried about super predators and she gets large donations and support from the for profit prison industrial complex. OTH, Trump uses it as a fascist dog whistle.
- Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
Clinton Foundation.
- Fraudulent Elections
Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.
If you haven't been paying attention, I can't help you. Hillary is more fascist than Trump. It will be a miracle if he can win in this sham we call an election.
So, leaving out
Religion and Government are Intertwined, Labor Power is Suppressed, and
Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts, since they aren't applicable to the situation in the US, and if we are generous and score Trump being fascist on Rampant Sexism (Though this is probably a largely media driven myth, and we already discussed the fascist Hillary regime owns people's perceptions through control of the media; ) The final Fascism Score is Trump 3 Hillary 8.
There you go, Hillary is a bigger fascist than Trump.
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)) Why the US upkeeps crimes at this territories, where's your role of world policeman?
I do oppose all fascists, including you.
