Fifty Years After Saigon: Remembering the Nobility of a Betrayed Cause

[gipper]

So we should have just let the Soviets expand their influence during the Cold War?

Lol. So dumb, but typical.

How about this?
So we should massacre civilians by the millions, because it could stop Soviet expansion.





Do cons know anything?

 

[Soupnazi630]

Give it up you lost it's over stop punishing yourself, there are quite a few Americans who actually live in Vietnam these days.

There are americans living in many parts of the world which does not even challenge his accurate description of vietnam.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Lol. So dumb, but typical.

How about this?
So we should massacre civilians by the millions, because it could stop Soviet expansion.





Do cons know anything?

We did not massacre civilians by the millions the communists did

DUMBASS

and yes oswald acted alone which was proven and you know it is true DUMBASS

 

[Stryder50]

I imagine they did not want a second war with China in a decade.

More like expanding the second war.
China was already involved, feeding weapons and supplies into North Vietnam.
The question ~ risk would have been how much more can/will China want to get involved.

 

[Deadstick]

More like expanding the second war.
China was already involved, feeding weapons and supplies into North Vietnam.
The question ~ risk would have been how much more can/will China want to get involved.

You should think yourself lucky the Chinese didn't get involved like Korea, they could have put a couple of million combat troops into Vietnam.

 

[Soupnazi630]

You should think yourself lucky the Chinese didn't get involved like Korea, they could have put a couple of million combat troops into Vietnam.

And accomplished nothing just like in korea which ended up with the same status quo as before the war

 

[Deadstick]

And accomplished nothing just like in korea which ended up with the same status quo as before the war

Well it did accomplish something in Korea because the Western forces were stopped from occupying all of Korea or even invading China over the Yalu River which that lunatic Mac Aurthur would like to have tried.

 

[mikegriffith1]

You should think yourself lucky the Chinese didn't get involved like Korea, they could have put a couple of million combat troops into Vietnam.

You are years behind the information curve. We've known for decades that Mao had no intention of sending combat units into Vietnam, largely because Red Chinese forces were badly mauled in the Korean War. Mao was willing to provide massive aid to North Vietnam and to put some logistics troops into the northern part of North Vietnam, but that was as far as he was willing to go.

The boogey man of Chinese intervention was used by defeatist liberals to talk LBJ out of attacking the NVA/VC sanctuaries in Cambodia and Laos, to talk him out of making full use of our air power against North Vietnam, and to talk him out of mining Haiphong Harbor. When Nixon unleashed two massive bombing campaigns against North Vietnam and mined Haiphong Harbor (and other harbors) in 1972, the Chinese did not intervene, despite urgent pleas from Hanoi that they do so.

 

[martybegan]

Lol. So dumb, but typical.

How about this?
So we should massacre civilians by the millions, because it could stop Soviet expansion.





Do cons know anything?

Answer the question.

 

[gipper]

We did not massacre civilians by the millions the communists did

DUMBASS

and yes oswald acted alone which was proven and you know it is true DUMBASS

Lol. Dumb ass. You know nothing.

The US killed millions in SE Asia during the Vietnam War.

 

[gipper]

Answer the question.

FU.

Think idiot!

 

[Zincwarrior]

More like expanding the second war.
China was already involved, feeding weapons and supplies into North Vietnam.
The question ~ risk would have been how much more can/will China want to get involved.

Yes, I think they wanted to avoid avoid direct combat between the US and the PLA, but I am no expert on the Vietnam conflict.

 

[gipper]

You are years behind the information curve. We've known for decades that Mao had no intention of sending combat units into Vietnam, largely because Red Chinese forces were badly mauled in the Korean War. Mao was willing to provide massive aid to North Vietnam and to put some logistics troops into the northern part of North Vietnam, but that was as far as he was willing to go.

The boogey man of Chinese intervention was used by defeatist liberals to talk LBJ out of attacking the NVA/VC sanctuaries in Cambodia and Laos, to talk him out of making full use of our air power against North Vietnam, and to talk him out of mining Haiphong Harbor. When Nixon unleashed two massive bombing campaigns against North Vietnam and mined Haiphong Harbor (and other harbors) in 1972, the Chinese did not intervene, despite urgent pleas from Hanoi that they do so.

And yet the Chinese pushed the US and allied forces all the back to the 38th parallel.

I doubt Mao cared about high casualties, as he certainly didn’t during the Korean War. I suspect there were valid reasons why he chose not to intervene directly.