Probably, yes.
The generals were just following orders from the Military-Industrial Compex. Americans of authority who visited the war rooms all realized there was no "win" plan. Are you now (today) mature enough to understand why that was true? I can explain it to you if you can handle it.
You sound ridiculous quoting dialogue you've seen in a war movie.
When you start blaming the Military-Industrial complex for the loss of the Vietnam War.
You've got only one more chance to save yourself. Your next response will be the determining one.
That was your last chance and you blew it.
Save myself from what?? ....
Do you watch a lot of TV?
The GOOD GUYS won and the BAD GUYS lost.
So ..... you've heard the term "Military-Industrial Complex" but you have no idea what it means.
You are a silly boy. Go to sleep and stop playing around.
Did they? collaborators tend to be killed it happened in WW2.
Murphy was a poster boy for propaganda, but maybe he was a hero, American Cousin of mine served with the US Marines in Vietnam, not sure if he was drafted or volunteered but he went twice so i think he must have been a real believer, met him a couple of times when he was in the UK, he was my Mums younger Sisters boy, she had married a US airman, i found him a very nice bloke but god knows what he did in Vietnam, i don't know of any films about Giap, probably some produced in Vietnam but as you say many ignorant people in the West won't have any idea who he was, you were in Vietnam, interesting, what did your comrades you served with think about the situation or did they never talk about it?I wonder if there are any honest films about Giap? If you know of one let me know.
Yes, either Joan Wayne hero films with the sun setting in the East or (as you say) self pity nonsense. Well, I was 19 when I went to Vietnam and I guess I can reflect on my own pity and most of the guys in my unit but that is no excuse for some of the things we (collectively speaking) did to the Vietnames population. Everyone knows about Lt. Calley but there were a lot of smaller attrocities we were guilty of too. Don't ask me.
That film makes me sick. Sooooo much bull shit! It's too bad because when I was a boy I admired the story of Audie Murphy and now I wonder how much of it might have been lies.
That's the problem weaponized ignorance, he should read the book by Smedley Butler US Marine General, War is a racket, then he will understand who and what the industrial military complex is, the fool actually thinks they could have won against the NVA and the NLF known by the US as the Vietcong, some of those guys had been fighting foreign invaders for thirty years, people like that can't be beaten, as usual that war was about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$The GOOD GUYS won and the BAD GUYS lost.
So ..... you've heard the term "Military-Industrial Complex" but you have no idea what it means.
You are a silly boy. Go to sleep and stop playing around.
They didn't play by your rules, because your rules were no rules, Vietnam is about 12 thousand miles from the US, WTF were you even doing there? did you ever ask yourself that?
So a limey thinks he's a self appointed expert on everything concerning the Vietnam war.
Just because i didn't crawl about in the mud getting my arse shot off doesn't mean i know nothing about the History of Vietnam, you sound like one of those who did get their arse shot off but know nothing about the Country or it's history.So a limey thinks he's a self appointed expert on everything concerning the Vietnam war.
Too funny.....
Incorrect Poindexter
So did you know an Australian
Accidents can happen during a large joint naval exercise.
No, they didn't.
He was both, I think.
The Marines didn't draft men. One could volunteer for the draft (silly, isn't it) but I don't think it applied to the Marines, Navy, or Air Force. Being conscripted into the Army awarded you a 2 year stint. Volunteering afforded you 3 years. Volunteering for the Marines, Navy, and Air Force (as I recall) gave you 4 years of active service. 12 months of service in Vietnam for Army, 13 or 14(?) months for Marines. You could extend in 6 months increments on a voluntary basis.
With a 4 year committent it is feasible to have been compelled to serve twice in Vietnam .... but unlikely.
"Red Plateau" is an autobiography written by a North Vietnamese soldier during the war but I don't know if it's ever been put into film.
The vast majority of us were 19 (the minimum legal age for a combat posting) when we arrived. At 19 we were not allowed to vote or drink inside the US but to kill and die, that was another thing. We couldn't have found Vietnam on a map let alone know anything about Vietnam's history or its/our political situation. Just counting the days. "Getting short" or "ETS"(days left to going home) was our most cherished accomplishment. I was there in 1966-67 and the only other subject we talked about was the fact that the French had tossed us out and then there was the rumour that "the six day war" would have us sent directly to the Middle East to fight with the Israelis. To answer your question we were living in a bubble of ignorance and any discussions we had amongst ourselves were limited to "Someone told me that ...". I had a pen friend, Carol Cooke from Bolton (UK) with whom I corresponded. For no reason whatsoever I stopped writing her. The poor girl probably thought I'd been killed. I wish I could find her today to apologise and tell her the truth.
