PATRIOTISM: Robert Swan Mueller III vs Donald J. Trump

[Mick2]

try again...

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Lol.

Good tap out

 

[Lockback]

We all know Donald J. Trump puts himself forward as America's Greatest Patriot. He's compared himself to George Washington, Abraham Lincoln and other Presidents. I've always found his announcements to be more protestations of "Look at me, I'm better than the Me you know!"

Mueller vs Trump - PATRIOTISM: This thread is NO about the Death of Robert Mueller. It's about Patriotism. For starters Contrast below with what we know about Donald Trump and the Vietnam War. Then contrast what Trump believes an Executive can and should do with what Mueller and COMEY saw as Executive overreach

In 1968, not many men with blue blood were signing up to shed it in Vietnam. But after a close friend and lacrosse teammate at Princeton died in battle, Mr. Mueller joined the Marine Corps. After Officer Candidate School and the Army’s Ranger School — Marines trained as Rangers often led long-range reconnaissance patrols, hunt-and-kill missions with a high mortality rate — he shipped out to the Dong Ha combat base, on the northern edge of South Vietnam, near enemy territory.

“You were scared to death of the unknown,” he told Mr. Graff 40 years later. “More afraid in some ways of failure than death, more afraid of being found wanting.” That species of intense fear, he said, “animates your unconscious.”

On his first tour, as a second lieutenant, he earned a Bronze Star for valor on Dec. 11, 1968, while leading an outgunned rifle platoon ambushed in Quang Tri province by an enemy armed with rocket-propelled grenades, machine guns and mortars.

His citation said he “personally led a fire team across the fire-swept area terrain to recover a mortally wounded Marine,” and it commended his “courage, aggressive initiative and unwavering devotion to duty at great personal risk.”

Four months later, he was shot through the thigh with an AK-47 round while leading his platoon to rescue American soldiers under a lethal Vietcong attack. He was awarded the Purple Heart.



more:

4 of the Most Dramatic Moments From the Mueller Report​

B4 Trump we had gone down the road to Becoming Bankrupt- Two ways Gradually, then suddenly Bush unilaterally reauthorize Stellarwind unilaterally March 11, 2004, asserting his power overrode the Constitution

"Of greater concern to Mr. Mueller and Mr. Comey was their determination that the program violated the Constitution’s protections against illegal searches and seizures. They convinced Attorney General John Ashcroft that he could not reauthorize Stellarwind. But Mr. Bush did so, unilaterally, on the morning of March 11, 2004, asserting in effect that his power overrode the Constitution."

"Russia Russia Russia"- Mueller Report does not exonerate him - Trump proclaimed that he had been totally exonerated

The report concluded that Russia had systemically sought to help Mr. Trump win the election, and that the candidate and his campaign had encouraged their clandestine assistance. It laid out 10 cases in which the president and his aides had sought to impede the F.B.I. investigation. Its key passage read: “While this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.”

But the attorney general, while keeping the text of the report secret, ostensibly to redact sensitive information, announced only that “the Special Counsel’s investigation is not sufficient to establish that the President committed an obstruction-of-justice offense.”

Mr. Trump proclaimed that he had been “totally exonerated.”

Cool story, bro.

 

[Lockback]

Your bs lies don't make the grade

Your party's Soviet-style bullshit don't make the grade, pal.

 

[theHawk]

It's all there. Any fool like you can look it all up, but...

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Cool story, they are your allegations, so YOU provide the actual evidence.

How dumb is it that you are asking me to prove your argument.

 

[Correll]

If Fascist choose a violent uprising against Americans to forcefully impose their agenda, we the people will have no choice.

You turn is now. Democrats are extremely limited at this time. When the laws and the courts don't work because of lack of evidence, you demonize them and yell "lawfare".

LAWFARE was not "lack of evidence" it was a massive violation of the rights of Americans and POLITICAL PRISONERS.

Shit talk might help you cope by avoiding any feeling of personal responsiblity.

It won't matter to us over here.

Do you want to contribute to the steady increase of political violence and conflict,

or do you want to push back at it, in favor of normal and non-violent political competition?


Can you give me a real answer, without the shit talk coping?

 

[BlindBoo]

LAWFARE was not "lack of evidence" it was a massive violation of the rights of Americans and POLITICAL PRISONERS.

Shit talk might help you cope by avoiding any feeling of personal responsiblity.

It won't matter to us over here.

Do you want to contribute to the steady increase of political violence and conflict,

or do you want to push back at it, in favor of normal and non-violent political competition?


Can you give me a real answer, without the shit talk coping?

Like the evidence Benedict Donald's claimed against his political enemies? Evidence that the Grand Juries rejected after the DOJ filed bogus charges based on Benedict imaginary claims of mortgage fraud?

Why would I feel personally responsible for the Rabid MAGANUTS violence at the behest of Benedict Donald?

 

[Correll]

Like the evidence Benedict Donald's claimed against his political enemies? Evidence that the Grand Juries rejected after the DOJ filed bogus charges based on Benedict imaginary claims of mortgage fraud?

Why would I feel personally responsible for the Rabid MAGANUTS violence at the behest of Benedict Donald?

I accept your declaration of utter emnity.

 

[berg80]

Do you want to contribute to the steady increase of political violence and conflict,

or do you want to push back at it, in favor of normal and non-violent political competition?

Was pardoning the violent J6 criminals pushing back against political violence "in favor of normal and non-violent political competition?"

 

[berg80]

I am talking about the weaponization of teh fbi AND the cia.

trump's weaponization of those agencies?

 

[Correll]

Was pardoning the violent J6 criminals pushing back against political violence "in favor of normal and non-violent political competition?"

Actually, yes. After the way that the rights of the accussed had been massively violated, to the point that they had become political prisoners,

they NEEDED to be pardoned.


From your question, I get that you feel fully justified in continuing your escalations.

Ok. So be it.

 

[berg80]

After the way that the rights of the accussed had been massively violated

Trials by jury gave them every opportunity to prove their rights had been violated. They couldn't, hence their convictions.

 

[Correll]

Trials by jury gave them every opportunity to prove their rights had been violated. They couldn't, hence their convictions.

Your support of the practice of POLITICAL PRISONERS, is noted.

And held against you.