Enough with the Trump tariffs are destroying the economy threads

[martybegan]

And why do you think that?

Why should I explain when you won't believe anything I post anyway?

 

[Marener]

Why should I explain when you won't believe anything I post anyway?

I believe the milk tariff is a thing, but it’s a tiny part of overall trade.

You can’t explain. You believe it because you want to believe it.

That’s it. That’s all there is.

 

[martybegan]

I believe the milk tariff is a thing, but it’s a tiny part of overall trade.

You can’t explain. You believe it because you want to believe it.

That’s it. That’s all there is.

The Milk tariff with Canada is only and example. plenty of others.

The sad thing is I ask google for Chinese tariffs on US goods, all I get are US tariffs on Chinese goods in the searches.

 

[Marener]

The Milk tariff with Canada is only and example. plenty of others.

The sad thing is I ask google for Chinese tariffs on US goods, all I get are US tariffs on Chinese goods in the searches.

Funny how the “plenty others” remain shrouded in mystery.

 

[martybegan]

Funny how the “plenty others” remain shrouded in mystery.

Funny how search engines lean left when you try to find out data that conflicts the establishment narrative.

 

[Marener]

Funny how search engines lean left when you try to find out data that conflicts the establishment narrative.

If you’re searching for it now, it would suggest you decided what you believe and are looking for something to support that belief.

Is that accurate?

 

[martybegan]

If you’re searching for it now, it would suggest you decided what you believe and are looking for something to support that belief.

Is that accurate?

I've read them before, but unlike leftists, I try to use hard data for things like tariff percents and link them.

Seems to be an effort to push the current numbers and not what existed in 2024 and before.

 

[Marener]

I've read them before, but unlike leftists, I try to use hard data for things like tariff percents and link them.

Seems to be an effort to push the current numbers and not what existed in 2024 and before.

Search engines favor recent results, obviously. Always a goddamn conspiracy with you people.

You read them before but can’t seem to remember any of them other than the dairy tariff which Trump mentioned in the last few days.

That sounds pretty suspicious, Marty.

 

[martybegan]

Search engines favor recent results, obviously. Always a goddamn conspiracy with you people.

You read them before but can’t seem to remember any of them other than the dairy tariff which Trump mentioned in the last few days.

That sounds pretty suspicious, Marty.

No, they favor things that help the establishment.

This is what i get, plenty of summary, not a lot of details. Ironically search for current values and you get numbers and of course editorial content on why this is all bad.

China Announces 2024 Import-Export Tariffs Adjustments : China Labor Watch

 

[Marener]

No, they favor things that help the establishment.

This is what i get, plenty of summary, not a lot of details. Ironically search for current values and you get numbers and of course editorial content on why this is all bad.

China Announces 2024 Import-Export Tariffs Adjustments : China Labor Watch

And you’re switching from Canada to China now.

Still very suspicious.

 

[martybegan]

And you’re switching from Canada to China now.

Still very suspicious.

China was always part of this, and part of the left's complaints about it.

You asked for other examples, China is an another example.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Nope, negotiating.

Showing flexibility on an issue.

Change that. Its now four times in four days. He is threatening 50% tariffs on aluminum and steel instead of 25%. He has no comprehension of how long it takes to build heavy industry, nor do his minions.

 

[Marener]

China was always part of this, and part of the left's complaints about it.

You asked for other examples, China is an another example.

You brought up Canada.

Canada has a scaling tariff schedule on US dairy that tops out at 250% or so.

A few percent?

And could come with exactly one protectionist tariff.

We have a 100% tariff on Chinese EVs.

Your opinion is based on what you want to believe, not facts.

 

[Zincwarrior]

You brought up Canada.

And could come with exactly one protectionist tariff.

We have a 100% tariff on Chinese EVs.

Your opinion is based on what you want to believe, not facts.

China is very separate. They are the threat, not Mexico, not Canada.

 

[martybegan]

Change that. Its now four times in four days. He is threatening 50% tariffs on aluminum and steel instead of 25%. He has no comprehension of how long it takes to build heavy industry, nor do his minions.

Because Doug Ford threatened 25% tariff on hydro power electricity sent to the US.

 

[martybegan]

China is very separate. They are the threat, not Mexico, not Canada.

Canada is being unfair and uncooperative.

Mexico is a threat because they let people pass through their country to invade ours.

 

[martybegan]

You brought up Canada.

And could come with exactly one protectionist tariff.

We have a 100% tariff on Chinese EVs.

Your opinion is based on what you want to believe, not facts.

Your opinion is based on ORANGE MAN BAD, nothing else.

 

[Marener]

Your opinion is based on ORANGE MAN BAD, nothing else.

There are good ways to use tariffs.

Starting a trade war with Canada and Mexico makes no sense. These were supposed to be the easy targets, too.

 

[martybegan]

There are good ways to use tariffs.

Starting a trade war with Canada and Mexico makes no sense. These were supposed to be the easy targets, too.

There is no trade war yet, just a lot of posturing and back and forth.

So far the only weakness has been shown by Canada, with those stupid "Remove the American booze from out shelves" stunt.

You don't do things like that from a position of strength.

 

[Marener]

There is no trade war yet, just a lot of posturing and back and forth.

So far the only weakness has been shown by Canada, with those stupid "Remove the American booze from out shelves" stunt.

You don't do things like that from a position of strength.

Looks like a trade war to me.

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