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“As late as 1950, only 18% of black households were single parent. From 1890 to 1940, a slightly higher percentage of black adults had married than white adults. In 1938, black illegitimacy was about 11% instead of today’s 75%. In 1925, 85% of black households in New York City were two-parent. Today, the black family is a mere shadow of its past.”
-Walter Williams

Walter Williams, How Important Is Today’s Racial Discrimination?, Aug 14, 2019, Walter E. Williams /2019/08/14/how-important-is-todays-racial-discrimination-n2551543

This is a favorite claim used by white racists to dismiss the impact of white racism on blacks today. There is only one problem:

In 1939, during this time of great black two-parent families, the poverty rate for employed married black couples was 89 percent. In 1959, the poverty rate for that same couple was 54.9 percent.

Ross, C., Danziger, S. & Smolensky, E. The level and trend of poverty in the United States, 1939–1979. Demography 24, pg.596 (1987)

U.S. Department of the Census, Table 2. Poverty Status of People by Family Relationship, Race, and Hispanic Origin: 1959 to 2014, https://www.census.gov/data/tables/time-series/demo/incomepoverty/historical-poverty-people.html

These sky-high rates of poverty occurred during the time “conservatives” rant about. Today due to the “ liberal welfare state breaking up the black family by giving them welfare,” black poverty is half of what it was in 1959 and less than one-third of what it was in those imaginary grand old glorious days of the two-parent black family. Again, the unwed single mom and absent black father are not the cause of problems in black communities.

White racism is the problem and no matter how many sellouts you post that tell you what you desperately need to hear in order to cope with your mental disability, those sellouts are wrong.

Here is another example.

On March 7, 2018, a black journalist named Jason Riley wrote an op-ed that was printed in The Wall Street Journal titled, “50 Years of Blaming Everything on Racism.” No better example of internalized racism exists than what Riley wrote in this article. He claimed that the findings of the Kerner Commission absolved blacks of personal responsibility because they cited white racism as the problem for blacks in 1968 while ignoring the progress that had taken place.

“The Kerner report’s most famous assertion was that the U.S. was “moving toward two societies, one black, one white—separate and unequal,” even though the decades leading up to the riots had suggested the opposite. The Truman administration’s desegregation of the armed forces in the 1940s was followed by Martin Luther King Jr.’s successful civil-rights movement of the 1950s and the passage of landmark civil-rights and voting-rights legislation in the 1960s. The educational and economic strides blacks made during this period were also unprecedented, and racial disparities were narrowing.”

Jason Riley was born in 1971. I do not want to discredit his research as the basis for disagreement because my writing is based on research. My dispute stems from what I saw in 1968. I was a kid at that time and can say that whatever improvements Riley claims occurred during this era are imaginary. The Kerner Commission Report was released on February 26, 1968. Martin Luther King was killed on April 4, 1968, one month and six days after the report was released.

“In 1960, just 7% of blacks between 20 and 24 were enrolled in college; by 1970, that percentage had more than doubled, to 16%. College enrollment among whites also rose during this period, but not by as much. These educational gains allowed more blacks to lift themselves out of poverty and access better-paying jobs. Between 1940 and 1970, the proportion of families living below the poverty line fell by 40 percentage points among whites and by 57 points among blacks. White-black gaps in homeownership, life expectancy, and white-collar employment also were shrinking in the postwar era, contrary to the pessimism of the Kerner Commission.”

What Riley wrote was misleading. Riley shows that the percentage of blacks between twenty and twenty-four who enrolled in 1960 and 1970 doubled, while white enrollment did not. While this is accurate, Riley leaves out the percentage of whites who enrolled. According to the National Center for Education Statistics, non-Hispanic white college enrollment increased from 45.8 percent in 1960 to 52 percent in 1970.

Riley argues that since black poverty dropped more than white poverty, the Kerner Commission was wrong, and racism was not the problem. He paints a pretty picture of a 57-point drop in black family poverty, and in his view, since whites had a 40-point drop, the Kerner Commission findings were somehow wrong in their conclusion. He doesn’t say that in 1970 all those significant improvements reduced black family poverty to 32.2 percent, while poverty for white families was 8.1 percent.

White racists use what these idiots say and claim these guys are telling it like it is. But they aren't. At best they speak half-truths and those half-truths are used by white racists to continue denying the racism they want to keep practicing.

Jason Riley, “50 Years of Blaming Everything on Racism”, The Wall Street Journal, March 6, 2018, https://www.wsj.com/articles/50- years-of-blaming-everything-on-racism-1520381047 8. Ibid.

National Center for Education Statistics, Table 181. College enrollment and enrollment rates of recent high school completers, by race/ethnicity: 1960 through 2004, College enrollment and enrollment rates of recent high school completers, by race/ethnicity: 1960 through 2004

Ross, C., Danziger, S. & Smolensky, E. The level and trend of poverty in the United States, 1939–1979. Demography 24, 587–600 (1987). The level and trend of poverty in the United States, 1939–1979 | Demography | Duke University Press

Table 2. Poverty Status of People by Family Relationship, Race, and Hispanic Origin: 1959 to 2014, US Department of the Census, http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/poverty/data/historical/people.html
 
You have been whining about white people in all the 20+ years I have known you. By now you should internalize that it's not going to get any better.
You don't know me. And you guys have been whining about AA all your life. What I'm talking about is going to get better. Because I'm talking about white racism, not white people.
 
“As late as 1950, only 18% of black households were single parent. From 1890 to 1940, a slightly higher percentage of black adults had married than white adults. In 1938, black illegitimacy was about 11% instead of today’s 75%. In 1925, 85% of black households in New York City were two-parent. Today, the black family is a mere shadow of its past.”
-Walter Williams

Walter Williams, How Important Is Today’s Racial Discrimination?, Aug 14, 2019, Walter E. Williams /2019/08/14/how-important-is-todays-racial-discrimination-n2551543

This is a favorite claim used by white racists to dismiss the impact of white racism on blacks today. There is only one problem:

In 1939, during this time of great black two-parent families, the poverty rate for employed married black couples was 89 percent. In 1959, the poverty rate for that same couple was 54.9 percent.

Ross, C., Danziger, S. & Smolensky, E. The level and trend of poverty in the United States, 1939–1979. Demography 24, pg.596 (1987)

U.S. Department of the Census, Table 2. Poverty Status of People by Family Relationship, Race, and Hispanic Origin: 1959 to 2014, https://www.census.gov/data/tables/time-series/demo/incomepoverty/historical-poverty-people.html

These sky-high rates of poverty occurred during the time “conservatives” rant about. Today due to the “ liberal welfare state breaking up the black family by giving them welfare,” black poverty is half of what it was in 1959 and less than one-third of what it was in those imaginary grand old glorious days of the two-parent black family. Again, the unwed single mom and absent black father are not the cause of problems in black communities.

White racism is the problem and no matter how many sellouts you post that tell you what you desperately need to hear in order to cope with your mental disability, those sellouts are wrong.

Here is another example.

On March 7, 2018, a black journalist named Jason Riley wrote an op-ed that was printed in The Wall Street Journal titled, “50 Years of Blaming Everything on Racism.” No better example of internalized racism exists than what Riley wrote in this article. He claimed that the findings of the Kerner Commission absolved blacks of personal responsibility because they cited white racism as the problem for blacks in 1968 while ignoring the progress that had taken place.

“The Kerner report’s most famous assertion was that the U.S. was “moving toward two societies, one black, one white—separate and unequal,” even though the decades leading up to the riots had suggested the opposite. The Truman administration’s desegregation of the armed forces in the 1940s was followed by Martin Luther King Jr.’s successful civil-rights movement of the 1950s and the passage of landmark civil-rights and voting-rights legislation in the 1960s. The educational and economic strides blacks made during this period were also unprecedented, and racial disparities were narrowing.”

Jason Riley was born in 1971. I do not want to discredit his research as the basis for disagreement because my writing is based on research. My dispute stems from what I saw in 1968. I was a kid at that time and can say that whatever improvements Riley claims occurred during this era are imaginary. The Kerner Commission Report was released on February 26, 1968. Martin Luther King was killed on April 4, 1968, one month and six days after the report was released.

“In 1960, just 7% of blacks between 20 and 24 were enrolled in college; by 1970, that percentage had more than doubled, to 16%. College enrollment among whites also rose during this period, but not by as much. These educational gains allowed more blacks to lift themselves out of poverty and access better-paying jobs. Between 1940 and 1970, the proportion of families living below the poverty line fell by 40 percentage points among whites and by 57 points among blacks. White-black gaps in homeownership, life expectancy, and white-collar employment also were shrinking in the postwar era, contrary to the pessimism of the Kerner Commission.”

What Riley wrote was misleading. Riley shows that the percentage of blacks between twenty and twenty-four who enrolled in 1960 and 1970 doubled, while white enrollment did not. While this is accurate, Riley leaves out the percentage of whites who enrolled. According to the National Center for Education Statistics, non-Hispanic white college enrollment increased from 45.8 percent in 1960 to 52 percent in 1970.

Riley argues that since black poverty dropped more than white poverty, the Kerner Commission was wrong, and racism was not the problem. He paints a pretty picture of a 57-point drop in black family poverty, and in his view, since whites had a 40-point drop, the Kerner Commission findings were somehow wrong in their conclusion. He doesn’t say that in 1970 all those significant improvements reduced black family poverty to 32.2 percent, while poverty for white families was 8.1 percent.

White racists use what these idiots say and claim these guys are telling it like it is. But they aren't. At best they speak half-truths and those half-truths are used by white racists to continue denying the racism they want to keep practicing.

Jason Riley, “50 Years of Blaming Everything on Racism”, The Wall Street Journal, March 6, 2018, https://www.wsj.com/articles/50- years-of-blaming-everything-on-racism-1520381047 8. Ibid.

National Center for Education Statistics, Table 181. College enrollment and enrollment rates of recent high school completers, by race/ethnicity: 1960 through 2004, College enrollment and enrollment rates of recent high school completers, by race/ethnicity: 1960 through 2004

Ross, C., Danziger, S. & Smolensky, E. The level and trend of poverty in the United States, 1939–1979. Demography 24, 587–600 (1987). The level and trend of poverty in the United States, 1939–1979 | Demography | Duke University Press

Table 2. Poverty Status of People by Family Relationship, Race, and Hispanic Origin: 1959 to 2014, US Department of the Census, http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/poverty/data/historical/people.html
I disagree with your statement "the unwed single mom and absent black father are not the cause of problems in black communities." I think, this lack of two parent commitment to raising a child and to each other, is a huge part of the problem in the black community. It is hard enough with two parents as proper role models in the home. One parent is super hard and in many cases, simply insufficient to the task. I do agree, the liberal welfare state that brought about the lowering of poverty, also created this, whether by design or not. I do not see the black community improving, until it gets a handle on this problem. Don't get me wrong. I am not saying racism doesn't exist or that it is not a problem for any minority, but it is not the problem causing the lawless crime ridden areas, we see in many large cities and even in smaller cities and towns. A lot of criminality stems from how you were raised and kept in line by your parents.
 
“As late as 1950, only 18% of black households were single parent. From 1890 to 1940, a slightly higher percentage of black adults had married than white adults. In 1938, black illegitimacy was about 11% instead of today’s 75%. In 1925, 85% of black households in New York City were two-parent. Today, the black family is a mere shadow of its past.”
-Walter Williams

Walter Williams, How Important Is Today’s Racial Discrimination?, Aug 14, 2019, Walter E. Williams /2019/08/14/how-important-is-todays-racial-discrimination-n2551543

This is a favorite claim used by white racists to dismiss the impact of white racism on blacks today. There is only one problem:

In 1939, during this time of great black two-parent families, the poverty rate for employed married black couples was 89 percent. In 1959, the poverty rate for that same couple was 54.9 percent.

Ross, C., Danziger, S. & Smolensky, E. The level and trend of poverty in the United States, 1939–1979. Demography 24, pg.596 (1987)

U.S. Department of the Census, Table 2. Poverty Status of People by Family Relationship, Race, and Hispanic Origin: 1959 to 2014, https://www.census.gov/data/tables/time-series/demo/incomepoverty/historical-poverty-people.html

These sky-high rates of poverty occurred during the time “conservatives” rant about. Today due to the “ liberal welfare state breaking up the black family by giving them welfare,” black poverty is half of what it was in 1959 and less than one-third of what it was in those imaginary grand old glorious days of the two-parent black family. Again, the unwed single mom and absent black father are not the cause of problems in black communities.

White racism is the problem and no matter how many sellouts you post that tell you what you desperately need to hear in order to cope with your mental disability, those sellouts are wrong.

Here is another example.

On March 7, 2018, a black journalist named Jason Riley wrote an op-ed that was printed in The Wall Street Journal titled, “50 Years of Blaming Everything on Racism.” No better example of internalized racism exists than what Riley wrote in this article. He claimed that the findings of the Kerner Commission absolved blacks of personal responsibility because they cited white racism as the problem for blacks in 1968 while ignoring the progress that had taken place.

“The Kerner report’s most famous assertion was that the U.S. was “moving toward two societies, one black, one white—separate and unequal,” even though the decades leading up to the riots had suggested the opposite. The Truman administration’s desegregation of the armed forces in the 1940s was followed by Martin Luther King Jr.’s successful civil-rights movement of the 1950s and the passage of landmark civil-rights and voting-rights legislation in the 1960s. The educational and economic strides blacks made during this period were also unprecedented, and racial disparities were narrowing.”

Jason Riley was born in 1971. I do not want to discredit his research as the basis for disagreement because my writing is based on research. My dispute stems from what I saw in 1968. I was a kid at that time and can say that whatever improvements Riley claims occurred during this era are imaginary. The Kerner Commission Report was released on February 26, 1968. Martin Luther King was killed on April 4, 1968, one month and six days after the report was released.

“In 1960, just 7% of blacks between 20 and 24 were enrolled in college; by 1970, that percentage had more than doubled, to 16%. College enrollment among whites also rose during this period, but not by as much. These educational gains allowed more blacks to lift themselves out of poverty and access better-paying jobs. Between 1940 and 1970, the proportion of families living below the poverty line fell by 40 percentage points among whites and by 57 points among blacks. White-black gaps in homeownership, life expectancy, and white-collar employment also were shrinking in the postwar era, contrary to the pessimism of the Kerner Commission.”

What Riley wrote was misleading. Riley shows that the percentage of blacks between twenty and twenty-four who enrolled in 1960 and 1970 doubled, while white enrollment did not. While this is accurate, Riley leaves out the percentage of whites who enrolled. According to the National Center for Education Statistics, non-Hispanic white college enrollment increased from 45.8 percent in 1960 to 52 percent in 1970.

Riley argues that since black poverty dropped more than white poverty, the Kerner Commission was wrong, and racism was not the problem. He paints a pretty picture of a 57-point drop in black family poverty, and in his view, since whites had a 40-point drop, the Kerner Commission findings were somehow wrong in their conclusion. He doesn’t say that in 1970 all those significant improvements reduced black family poverty to 32.2 percent, while poverty for white families was 8.1 percent.

White racists use what these idiots say and claim these guys are telling it like it is. But they aren't. At best they speak half-truths and those half-truths are used by white racists to continue denying the racism they want to keep practicing.

Jason Riley, “50 Years of Blaming Everything on Racism”, The Wall Street Journal, March 6, 2018, https://www.wsj.com/articles/50- years-of-blaming-everything-on-racism-1520381047 8. Ibid.

National Center for Education Statistics, Table 181. College enrollment and enrollment rates of recent high school completers, by race/ethnicity: 1960 through 2004, College enrollment and enrollment rates of recent high school completers, by race/ethnicity: 1960 through 2004

Ross, C., Danziger, S. & Smolensky, E. The level and trend of poverty in the United States, 1939–1979. Demography 24, 587–600 (1987). The level and trend of poverty in the United States, 1939–1979 | Demography | Duke University Press

Table 2. Poverty Status of People by Family Relationship, Race, and Hispanic Origin: 1959 to 2014, US Department of the Census, http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/poverty/data/historical/people.html
^^ amazing how the statistics clearly show the demise of the black community due to the family unit being destroyed by embracing Marxist, white liberal ideals. Nothing predicts bad or good economic future more than whether or not the family has two parents or is single parent.

Despite all this, blacks like the OP choose to ignore the facts and continue embracing the same failed policies, and defend their wrinkly old white and Jewish liberal masters.
 
You should all go back to Europe so you won't have to worry about whites losing their "culture."

No thanks,we took the US fair and square.
If you think you can do the same give it a try.
Of course you'd have to stop killing your own babies and get jobs so you could stock up on guns and ammo.
And learning to shoot a gun the right way instead of sideways would also be helpful.
While this video is 6 years old the truth remains.....

 
Jews have been subject to racism and genocide for thousands of years, even into the 21st Century, yet Jewish single-parent households are currently lower than the national average, at 12%.

It would seem that historic, systemic racism and isolation would KEEP men from deserting their families, and not cause them to leave.
 
No thanks,we took the US fair and square.
If you think you can do the same give it a try.
Of course you'd have to stop killing your own babies and get jobs so you could stock up on guns and ammo.
And learning to shoot a gun the right way instead of sideways would also be helpful.
While this video is 6 years old the truth remains.....



So White 6...
What is wrong with my post?
Everything I said is factual.
 
So White 6...
What is wrong with my post?
Everything I said is factual.
If referring to post #10, it is totally the wrong tone, for intelligent discussion. It is inviting armed conflict, and encourages getting jobs for the purpose of buying guns for the conflict you appear to want, not realizing lack of gun ownership in the black community is not a problem even now. The comments were totally unproductive, pretty much as you had no intent to be productive.
 
If referring to post #10, it is totally the wrong tone, for intelligent discussion. It is inviting armed conflict, and encourages getting jobs for the purpose of buying guns for the conflict you appear to want, not realizing lack of gun ownership in the black community is not a problem even now. The comments were totally unproductive, pretty much as you had no intent to be productive.

Seriously?
I wasn't the one who said we should go back to Europe.
 
Seriously?
I wasn't the one who said we should go back to Europe.
Don't worry, I gave his a thumbs down, also, and you have probably noticed, that he never responded to my reasoned post at all, as has mostly been engaging people like you and Evil, pretty much a failing of lack of discipline on his part. He didn't respond to fnc either. So, I guess you and I discussing the thumbs up/thumb down thing is actually more productive than the OP position anyway, as at least you and I know where are heads are at, whether we agree or not.:D
 
You have been whining about white people in all the 20+ years I have known you. By now you should internalize that it's not going to get any better.
He’s been around here that long? He needs to get a life. I guess rather than a garden-variety racist, he’s a professional.
 
It's going to get better. These youngsters growing up now aren't taking any bullshit.
By ”youngsters” of course you mean the black thugs making unprovoked attacks on other minorities and committing crimes. They don’t help your case; if anything their conduct and attitudes turn even liberal whites against blacks. The blacks of the forties and fifties had it right, to get equal treatment, they had to be superior to whites. They had to be smarter, work harder and assimilate. It’s not fair, but that is the burden every immigrant group has had to carry.

From my reading every all black unit in WWII was head and shoulders above the average white unit.
 
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He’s been around here that long? He needs to get a life. I guess rather than a garden-variety racist, he’s a professional.
No he hasn't. I don’t know how long he's been around here but I have known this dip on numerous other boards. He has never changed his spiel. He really believes he can change the minds of whites by his carefully prepared lectures.
 
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