Does the USA need more socialism or less socialism?

[AnOrangeCat]

I am well covered by insurance companies.

So then what are you complaining about?

 

[Robert W]

You mean states that do things to help their people

The Democrats propaganda machine is very active today.

 

[Robert W]

So then what are you complaining about?

That the Democrat propaganda machine is running full blast today.

 

[AnOrangeCat]

That the Democrat propaganda machine is running full blast today.

What do you mean? What are you talking about?

 

[Robert W]

What do you mean? What are you talking about?

I gave a straightforward answer to your question.

 

[AnOrangeCat]

I gave a straightforward answer to your question.

A propaganda machine? Is this like when people accuse pro-Israel posters of being paid because they always have facts and substance?

 

[Robert W]

Where on the doll did the ACA hurt you?

That is a very strange question for you to ask.

 

[Robert W]

A propaganda machine? Is this like when people accuse pro-Israel posters of being paid because they always have facts and substance?

It is your question, so what do you believe?

Here is my belief in the propaganda machine today going full blast by the democrats.
A good example is supplied as above.

Here it is.

"Is this like when people accuse pro-Israel posters of being paid because they always have facts and substance?"

 

[AnOrangeCat]

It is your question, so what do you believe?

I don't believe that anyone gets paid to post on places like USMB, and I don't think many get paid to post on mainstream platforms like FB, Twitter, IG, or TikTok.

I believe the vast majority of users aren't getting paid, and that's because I don't believe everything is a giant conspiracy to make you look bad on message boards and comment sections.

Here is my belief in the propaganda machine today going full blast by the democrats.
A good example is supplied as above.

Here it is.

"Is this like when people accuse pro-Israel posters of being paid because they always have facts and substance?"

Right, so here comes the petulant attitude that typically follows allegations of propaganda machines or hasbara, that the anonymity of USMB and other places provides you with the cover to be the worst possible version of yourself rather than someone of substance who can have reasonable conversations and debates.

 

[markef]

There were no Republicans or Democrats when the nation was formed

There was no republican party until conservatives and Christians formed the republican party to strip democrts of their slaves.

 

[rightwinger]

There was no republican party until conservatives and Christians formed the republican party to strip democrts of their slaves.

Wrong again Skippy

It was LIBERALS who were abolitionists
Conservatives in the South enacted slavery and Jim Crow

 

[initforme]

Our current health insurance costs skyrocketed after dummies forced Obamacare to take over the market.

Costs were way too high before Obama care. The worlds richest nation just can't figure health care out. Sa, but true.

 

[AnOrangeCat]

There was no republican party until conservatives and Christians formed the republican party to strip democrts of their slaves.

John Brown and the like.

But that was back in the 1800's, since then the parties have switched.

When the Dodgers won the World Series last year they didn't hoist the banner in Brooklyn, where they were originally from. They hoisted it in Los Angeles, where they are now.

 

[markef]

Wrong again Skippy

It was LIBERALS who were abolitionists
Conservatives in the South enacted slavery and Jim Crow

I'm ok if you want to label Christian abolitionists liberals who took issue with southern democrat promotion of slavery.

 

[markef]

Costs were way too high before Obama care. The worlds richest nation just can't figure health care out. Sa, but true.

At least Americans were not forced to pay skyrocketing costs for healthcare before Obamacare.

 

[markef]

John Brown and the like.

But that was back in the 1800's, since then the parties have switched.

When the Dodgers won the World Series last year they didn't hoist the banner in Brooklyn, where they were originally from. They hoisted it in Los Angeles, where they are now.

Claiming voters switched parties is unproven but there is no evidence that Christian abolitionists ever switched parties to support southern democrat slave owners' promotion of slavery.

 

[AnOrangeCat]

Claiming voters switched parties is unproven

Dude, Lee Atwater literally said that's what their strategy was to win votes.

You start out in 1954 by saying, "N*, n*,n*." By 1968 you can't say "n*"—that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stufflike forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now[that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me—because obviously sitting around saying, "We want to cut this," is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "N*, n*."

but there is no evidence that Christian abolitionists ever switched parties to support southern democrat slave owners' promotion of slavery.

Well abolitionists were no more once the 13th Amendment was passed because slavery was outlawed. That was their goal.

If Conservatives didn't do the Southern Strategy like Atwater said, then how do you explain white voters in the South voting Republican starting with Nixon when they used to vote Democratic? And if Christian abolitionists are the forebearers of Modern Conservatism, how do you explain the strategy Conservatives used to win votes? Are you saying Conservatives have always been abolitionists? How can you reach that conclusion given what Atwater said?

 

[AnOrangeCat]

At least Americans were not forced to pay skyrocketing costs for healthcare before Obamacare.

The rate of growth of health insurance premiums was higher before the ACA.

That's just a fact.

So the ACA did not stop the growth of health care costs, but it did restrain it compared to what was there before.

 

[markef]

Dude, Lee Atwater literally said that's what their strategy was to win votes.




Well abolitionists were no more once the 13th Amendment was passed because slavery was outlawed. That was their goal.

If Conservatives didn't do the Southern Strategy like Atwater said, then how do you explain white voters in the South voting Republican starting with Nixon when they used to vote Democratic? And if Christian abolitionists are the forebearers of Modern Conservatism, how do you explain the strategy Conservatives used to win votes? Are you saying Conservatives have always been abolitionists? How can you reach that conclusion given what Atwater said?

Lee Atwater has not convinced me Bible believing Christians switched parties because they changed their minds about abolishing slavery.

 

[markef]

The rate of growth of health insurance premiums was higher before the ACA.

That's just a fact.

So the ACA did not stop the growth of health care costs, but it did restrain it compared to what was there before.

Americans were stripped of their private insurance plans and forced by socialist fascist mandate to buy the more expensive Obamacare plans.