Does God Exist?

[tycho1572]

Religious people understand the importance of believing in a power greater than themselves.

Libs and fags think they should be the center of attention.

 

[Hollie]

This directly contradicts the Bible and much of Christian theology. Nothing in the Bible identifies Genesis, the resurrection, Jesus as god, etc., as theme or lesson.

Do you truly believe that the intent of the person who wrote about the Biblical flood was to detail how the earth was repopulated?

It doesn’t much matter what I believe. I don’t know the intent of the person who wrote the flood tale. How do you know for certain the flood tale was intended as a theme/lesson and not the literal rendering of history as understood by the writer?

 

[Meriweather]

Is Jesus not god or prophet or savior, just a theme or lesson?

Are we changing the topic to the New Testament?

 

[Meriweather]

I’m not understanding this. You wrote It is a story with a theme/lesson (the flood), but then don’t explain why the Bible makes no mention of the event as anything but a literal event.

The flood was the setting. The question is whether it was planet wide or an event of great magnitude that stretched from horizon to horizon. How long after the flood do you suppose the account was written?

 

[Bob Blaylock]

I don’t know the intent of the person who wrote the flood tale.

Moses wrote it, because that was what God told him to write. I don't know what other motive you think he needed to have.

 

[Meriweather]

How do you know for certain the flood tale was intended as a theme/lesson and not the literal rendering of history as understood by the writer?

Are there themes and lessons in the account?

 

[Hollie]

I’m not understanding this. You wrote It is a story with a theme/lesson (the flood), but then don’t explain why the Bible makes no mention of the event as anything but a literal event.

The flood was the setting. The question is whether it was planet wide or an event of great magnitude that stretched from horizon to horizon. How long after the flood do you suppose the account was written?

The Bible is not clear about the flood. If it is not literal event, intended as a theme, why not be clear?

 

[Hollie]

How do you know for certain the flood tale was intended as a theme/lesson and not the literal rendering of history as understood by the writer?

Are there themes and lessons in the account?

I suppose that depends on whether you accept biblical events as true or not.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Moses wrote it, because that was what God told him to write.

False.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Are there themes and lessons in the account

Yes, absolutely immoral and evil themes and lessons.

 

[Hollie]

I don’t know the intent of the person who wrote the flood tale.

Moses wrote it, because that was what God told him to write. I don't know what other motive you think he needed to have.

I wasn't aware that God spoke to Moses. Isn't that a theme in the Bible, not fact?

 

[Meriweather]

The Bible is not clear about the flood. If it is not literal event, intended as a theme, why not be clear?

It appears you may have selected an anthropology book with the expectation it is going to teach you about geology.

 

[Meriweather]

I suppose that depends on whether you accept biblical events as true or not.

What does it teach about new beginnings?

 

[Bob Blaylock]

The Bible is not clear about the flood. If it is not literal event, intended as a theme, why not be clear?

I think that there is a lot in the Bible that is symbolic rather than literal, and it's not always easy to know which is which. In all cases, I think the point is not to give us a detailed, accurate accounting of what happened, but to let us know what God wants us to know, what he thinks we need to know and are ready to know.

I consider the creation at the beginning to be a prime example.

I do not believe that God merely waved his hands and spoke a few words, over the course of six 24-hour periods, and by so doing, caused the Earth to appear, and caused life to appear on it. I'm convinced that it was a very elaborate process, involving very real work, in which all of us who were eventually to populate the Earth almost certainly participated, and that the “days” do not represent literal 24-hour periods defined by the Earth's rotation relative to the Sun (which didn't even occur until a few “days” into the process), but phases of the project that may have extended for hundreds of millions of years.

The point was not to tell us in detail how God created the Earth, to give us the details of a project that even know is probably beyond our mortal limits to understand, but to let us know that he caused it to happen, and that under his direction, it happened in an orderly manner, and was not just a random, unorganized event.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

I wasn't aware that God spoke to Moses. Isn't that a theme in the Bible, not fact?

The Bible is explicit on the point that yes, God spoke to Moses, on multiple occasions.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I wasn't aware that God spoke to Moses. Isn't that a theme in the Bible, not fact?

The Bible is explicit on the point that yes, God spoke to Moses, on multiple occasions.

No.

 

[Hollie]

The Bible is not clear about the flood. If it is not literal event, intended as a theme, why not be clear?

It appears you may have selected an anthropology book with the expectation it is going to teach you about geology.

It appears I selected a book of tales and fables that others expect will teach them about the gods.

 

[Hollie]

I wasn't aware that God spoke to Moses. Isn't that a theme in the Bible, not fact?

The Bible is explicit on the point that yes, God spoke to Moses, on multiple occasions.

Which Bible has that account?

 

[ding]

You really need for me to post how the universe began again? You have never read my posts on that?

No need. I wasn't convinced then, I doubt I'll be convinced now.

So you did read it.

Your violent reaction to the universe beginning is revealing.

Violent? The birth might have been violent but I'm not.

How about unreasonable opposition?

 

[ding]

Now if I was a Christian, I'd be terrified

If you were Christian perhaps you would have a clearer understanding and be at peace.

Maybe so. However, I've never met a Christian who didn't think others would be going to hell but not them.

Let me be your first. No one knows their fate or the fate of others.

So now you can’t say that anymore.

So you're what? Hopeful, scared, or resigned?

Awake.