Doctors Going Out of Business

[AquaAthena]

Dr. Linda Aiken is available to discuss the medical professional shortage and its future implications, including how the U.S. will likely be short as many as 200,000 physicians and 800,000 nurses by 2020. She is co-chair of the newly formed Council on Physician and Nurse Supply, which is seeking solutions to this impending problem.

Dr. Aiken is a professor of nursing, a sociology professor and the director of the Center for Health Outcomes and Policy Research at the University of Pennsylvania. She is a leading expert on nurse-staffing ratios and on nurse migration and has twice been named one of the top health-care experts by Modern Healthcare magazine.

Penn News | Expert on Shortage of Medical Personnel

 

[mamooth]

The AMA, using serious bribes to congress to enforce its will, deliberately creates a doctor shortage in the USA to keep doctors' salaries sky-high. It does that by restricting the number of new doctors that medical schools can graduate. The schools have to obey, or they lose AMA certification. That's why so many foreign doctors move here.

 

[AquaAthena]

The AMA, using serious bribes to congress to enforce its will, deliberately creates a doctor shortage in the USA to keep doctors' salaries sky-high. It does that by restricting the number of new doctors that medical schools can graduate. The schools have to obey, or they lose AMA certification. That's why so many foreign doctors move here.

Link your source to that, please....

 

[MeBelle]

The AMA, using serious bribes to congress to enforce its will, deliberately creates a doctor shortage in the USA to keep doctors' salaries sky-high. It does that by restricting the number of new doctors that medical schools can graduate. The schools have to obey, or they lose AMA certification. That's why so many foreign doctors move here.

Link your source to that, please....

AMA Certification?

AMA is a trade association made up of dues paying members.
There is no 'certification' of anything through the AMA.

 

[AquaAthena]

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12/08/2013 @ 9:01AM |248,411 views
Doctor, Nurse Vacancies Soar Amid Obamacare Rollout

General SurgeryDoctor and nurse vacancies are approaching nearly 20 percent at hospitals as these facilities prepare to be inundated by millions of patients who have the ability to pay for medical care thanks to the Affordable Care Act.

A survey by health care provider staffing firm AMN Healthcare shows the vacancy rate for physicians at hospitals near 18 percent in 2013 while the nurse vacancy rate is 17 percent. That vacancy rate is more than three times what it was just four years ago when vacancies for nurses were just 5.5 percent in 2009 while vacancies for doctors were 10.7 percent.

“There is a war for talent,” Sean Gregory, president of Health First Holmes Regional Medical Center, a 400-bed hospital in Melbourne, Florida, said in an interview with Forbes.

The employment picture comes as the Affordable Care Act and pressures by insurance companies and employers to control costs creates a shift away from fee-for-service payment of doctors to approaches that emphasize more accountable care.

Most of these new models use primary care doctors as a quarterback of sorts to nurse practitioners and physician assistants who reach out to the patients, making sure they are taking their medications, eating properly and adhering to doctor’s orders. Nurse practitioners and physician assistants are also in short supply with hospital executives seeing a vacancy rate of 15 percent, according to the AMN Healthcare survey.

“We are actively hiring and building up cores of physician assistants and nurse practitioners,” Gregory said.

With accountable care programs, the insurer contracts with some providers that are forming patient-centered medical homes whereby physicians are paid to encourage patients to get medical care upfront in the clinic, health center or doctor’s office where costs are lower than a hospital, particularly an emergency room. Health plans are also linking to accountable care organizations (ACOs), which reward providers for working together to improve quality and to control costs.

To make the ACOs work, hospitals and health systems are hiring dozens of new nurse practitioners.

Most private health insurance companies like Aetna (AET), Cigna (CI), Humana (HUM), UnitedHealth Group (UNH) and most Blue Cross plans are linking with ACOs and patient centered medical homes.

“Cost is the healthcare workforce issue of most concern to hospital executives, though they also find physician/hospital alignment, the move to quality based provider compensation, high vacancy rates, and the influx of insurance patients through the Affordable Care Act to be of concern,” AMN Healthcare said in its report.

Doctor, Nurse Vacancies Soar Amid Obamacare Rollout - Forbes

 

[AquaAthena]

The AMA, using serious bribes to congress to enforce its will, deliberately creates a doctor shortage in the USA to keep doctors' salaries sky-high. It does that by restricting the number of new doctors that medical schools can graduate. The schools have to obey, or they lose AMA certification. That's why so many foreign doctors move here.

Link your source to that, please....

AMA Certification?

AMA is a trade association made up of dues paying members.
There is no 'certification' of anything through the AMA.

That's why I wanted his source. Also only about 15 to 20% of doctors belong to the AMA.

 

[MeBelle]

The op is a lie. Doctors love ObamaCare because it guarantees payment.

They finally don't have to chase down the worthless rw's who love reagan's socialist EMTALA.

Ins companies hate having to spend 80% on actual patient care but that's for another thread.

Keep the lies coming, chumps.

Can't handle some facts so you must resort to insults.

And it's 85% Luddly.

It is amazing! It seems like every USMB conservative personally knows several medical professionals who hate the ACA so much that they are going to stop doctoring. Absolutely uncanny.

Nothing amazing about it.
Neither you nor Luddly know who actually posts on this board, what they do for a living, who they know, etc, etc, etc.

I know it'd surprise you.

Quit mocking people and deal with some reality.
It only makes you look petty.

 

[MeBelle]

Link your source to that, please....

AMA Certification?

AMA is a trade association made up of dues paying members.
There is no 'certification' of anything through the AMA.

That's why I wanted his source. Also only about 15 to 20% of doctors belong to the AMA.

And it's not just doctors that belong to the AMA.

 

[AquaAthena]

The decades-long membership decline at the American Medical Association (AMA) shows no signs of slowing, which has some doctors worried that the national voice of their profession may one day fall silent.

If that were to happen, the medical profession in the United States would lose its biggest advocate in Washington, DC, says AMA President Dr. Cecil Wilson.

“What the AMA does, and does best, is in the advocacy arena,” says Wilson. “And all doctors benefit from this.”

In the early 1950s, about 75% of US physicians were AMA members. That percentage has steadily decreased over the years. In June, at the annual meeting of its policy-making body, the House of Delegates, the AMA announced that it lost another 12 000 members last year.

more: American Medical Association membership woes continue

 

[mamooth]

There is no 'certification' of anything through the AMA.

But the AMA does pay congress to grant or pull certification. Hence, they control it.

The Evil-Mongering Of The American Medical Association - Forbes

And aren't you libertarians familiar with party dogma? Cartels and guilds are bad for competition. If you disagree, just how do you explain the physician shortage? Do you think Americans are just unwilling to work at $400,000 jobs? Are you unaware of just how many applicants there are for every med school slot?

 

[AquaAthena]

There is no 'certification' of anything through the AMA.

But the AMA does pay congress to grant or pull certification. Hence, they control it.

The Evil-Mongering Of The American Medical Association - Forbes

And aren't you libertarians familiar with party dogma? Cartels and guilds are bad for competition. If you disagree, just how do you explain the physician shortage? Do you think Americans are just unwilling to take $400,000 jobs? Are you unaware of just how many applicants there are for every med school slot?

Just how long do you think those jobs are going to be available when O'care is fully implemented, if ever.... You are going to be treated by student nurses, no doubt.

 

[AquaAthena]

There is no 'certification' of anything through the AMA.

But the AMA does pay congress to grant or pull certification. Hence, they control it.

The Evil-Mongering Of The American Medical Association - Forbes

And aren't you libertarians familiar with party dogma? Cartels and guilds are bad for competition. If you disagree, just how do you explain the physician shortage? Do you think Americans are just unwilling to work at $400,000 jobs? Are you unaware of just how many applicants there are for every med school slot?

Why don't you put up a recent link? Yours is dated....8/26/2009 @ 12:00AM

 

[mamooth]

Please explain for us the exact mechanism by which ObamaCare causes people to suddenly not want to work at $400,000 jobs. Be specific.

It's also interesting that ObamaCare is so evil, it apparently caused a doctor shortage that started decades ago. I don't even think Clinton's wanger had that much time-travelling power.

 

[AquaAthena]

Please explain for us the exact mechanism by which ObamaCare causes people to suddenly not want to work at $400,000 jobs. Be specific.

It's also interesting that ObamaCare is so evil, it apparently caused a doctor shortage that started decades ago. I don't even think Clinton's wanger had that much time-travelling power.

It's hopeless, sweetie. If you can't do proper research on your own, then all the best. For me, I have spent way too much energy on this topic and am leaving this thread.



**Bygones**

 

[mamooth]

If you couldn't back up your story, you should have simply admitted it.

Would anyone care to explain exactly how the ACA drives doctors out of business? All of those claiming it's happening are curiously unwilling to explain how. We've gotten a little vague mumbling about how complicated insurance is, which is pretty stupid, being the ACA didn't invent insurance. And a story about some kook rambling about "not working for the government", which is bullshit, because I guarantee said doctor loved him his Medicare.

And does anyone want to explain how the ACA somehow created a doctor shortage that started decades ago?

 

[Zoom-boing]

It is amazing! It seems like every USMB conservative personally knows several medical professionals who hate the ACA so much that they are going to stop doctoring. Absolutely uncanny.

Sorry, sweetie. Docs and patients are running away and this trend will continue as long as the (un)aca remains as is. Hope 'n change!

More doctors are switching to cash-only practices- MSN Money

Money Talks, Obamacare Walks: Some Doctors to Accept Cash Only | The Daily Sheeple

Doctors keep it simple, ditch insurance *:*Family Practice News

Direct Primary Care - Cash Only Doctors Say No to Your Health Insurance - AARP

I only let people call me sweetie if they are massaging my balls.

I was.

 

[Zoom-boing]

Sure did.

You missed this then.

Riggs said any out-of-pocket expense can usually be submitted to your insurance company for credit toward your deductible

Keep as cheap a plan as you can in case of something big, submit to company for credit in case you need the insurance for something big, pay for the rest oop at a reduced cost. This is how insurance should work.

Buy insurance......but don't use it. Brilliant plan.

You fuckers will say just about anything.

You missed the part about the cost savings.

 

[Meister]

Got a letter from my orthopaedic surgeon, an old friend from high school. He is closing his practice. A local general practitioner placed ads in the local paper recently announcing that he is going to a cash only business plan. An acquaintance told me of two others that she is familiar with who have decided to quit. All make it very clear that Obamacare is the reason for their decisions.

Anybody else have similar stories from their neighborhoods?

My dermatologist retired 5 years sooner than he intended last Sept. Because of obummercare.

 

[Meister]

Lying on an anonymous message board takes a special kind of person.

Just because you refuse to believe, doesn't make it a lie.

Moody's downgraded the healthcare insurance industry today. I'm sure the Lone Goofball will say bullshit to that also.

 

[oreo]

After 25 years of practicing medicine, Dr. Tamzin Rosenwasser packed in her dermatology practice in 2011, barely a year after the passage of President Obama’s health care initiative. The timing wasn’t coincidental.

“I have interrupted practicing medicine because of Obamacare,” said Dr. Rosenwasser. “I’d read the bill. I was conversant with what had already happened with Medicaid, and I didn’t want to go down that road with Obamacare.”

The Affordable Care Act isn’t scheduled to be fully implemented until next year, but some doctors already are viewing it as dead on arrival. The medical rumor mill is abuzz with stories about physicians girding for Mr. Obama’s signature domestic policy achievement by limiting their exposure to Medicare and Medicaid, selling their practices, converting to fee-for-service approaches, or even retiring from medicine altogether.

'Obamacare' health care reform ALREADY forcing doctors to close practices - Washington Times