Do you believe that the Internet should be a free speech Platform?

[BlindBoo]

So that’s a problem it’s anti Americanism and against freedom of speech. Those p

It's not. Freedom of speech does not trump freedom of the press.

 

[Blues Man]

Wow. Impressively devoid of content.

SCOTUS won’t decide because no one is stupid enough to take this to court in the first place.

but they have decided a similar case

Lloyd Corp. v.Tanner (1972), decided that the owners of a shopping center, Lloyd Center in Oregon, had the right to prohibit the distribution of political handbills unrelated to the operation of the shopping center.

 

[MinTrut]

You see fewer interactions because of the prolific use of the shadow ban. I've had benign anti mask and pro 2nd amendment comments removed and been blocked from posting in said threads on several platforms.

The left scream about fascism constantly as they partake in it.

Liberals, not the left.

 

[MinTrut]

The same non-answers.

No proof
No links to case law

Nothing.

We'll see what happens.

 

[MinTrut]

Wow. Impressively devoid of content.

Don't be so hard on yourself.

SCOTUS won’t decide because no one is stupid enough to take this to court in the first place.

We'll see.

 

[MinTrut]

but they have decided a similar case

Have they?

Lloyd Corp. v.Tanner (1972), decided that the owners of a shopping center, Lloyd Center in Oregon, had the right to prohibit the distribution of political handbills unrelated to the operation of the shopping center.

You're not getting it, but that's okay.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

I see this freedom-of-speech issue exactly as I viewed it 30 years ago when Limbaugh made conservative talk radio popular and liberals whined about their lack of access.

The differences is that limbo reached millions of people but these modern platforms reached hundreds of millions of Americans and billions of people in the world.

Radio has always been home to both liberal and conservative talk. You just have to look at PBS radio for example.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

It's not. Freedom of speech does not trump freedom of the press.

YouTube Facebook and Twitter blocked a free press in 2020

Whatever way that you folks(Biden supporters )want to write your posts, your position is noted.


If Facebook, Twitter, Instagram banned black BLM speakers. …You would have an out cry from Biden supporters calling it racist, you would even have the left wing media, actors and celebrities, talking about it each day.

Father O'Blivion

the social media outlets allowed Hitler supporters for 15 years and it was no problem until 2020. So what we’re dealing with here is a clear-cut red flag. There are no excuses here. Only a matter whatever position you want to take for or against free speech …however you want to use word games it makes no difference. Each persons position is noted and that’s there right.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

Exactly, it is a matter of business decisions.

The major difference is noted by Remodeling Maidiac is access. YouTube, Twitter and Instagram blocked access for conservatives there by engaging in election interference in 2020 and beyond.

 

[BlindBoo]

YouTube Facebook and Twitter blocked a free press in 2020

So? Isn't that why we have a free press. They reacted, most likely to the smut the Rabid Right was posting and the lude claims of pedophilia about the Democrats Candidates son. Furthermore, if you wanted to see the smut or read about the hard drive Rudy claimed was from Hunter's lap top, there were several outlets that were publishing that information and it was at everyone's internet fingertips. Free Press.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Liberals, not the left.

No difference in today's era.

 

[BlindBoo]

No difference in today's era.

Dumb down complete.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Dumb down complete.

That's what happens when you let woke radicals take over your party but at least you admit to it

 

[sparky]

LOL!

Mr Z's journalism project was started in '16 or '17
They literally paid , and paid BILLIONS to every on line 'journalist' that would take his $$....

The catch being on would need to go through Mr Z's 'journalist training'

Because Reagan vetoed the fair press policy back when he held office, Mr Z had the legal ability to define and defend any narrative he wished


Mr Z wasn't in front of Congress because Congress was concerned about free speech, Mr Z was there because they knew he could buy it

~S~

 

[MinTrut]

No difference in today's era.

As different as Nazis and Jews.

 

[MinTrut]

That's what happens when you let woke radicals take over your party but at least you admit to it

Didn't happen.

 

[dblack]

Before 2020 people like David Duke and Andrew Tate, Robert Spencer, and others were allowed to provide their messages. Often they were mocked, laughed at or disagreed with. Everything was fine. The world was a safer place. The economy was better. Fast forward to 2020 and political platforms like YouTube, Instagram and Twitter banned these types of figures under the guise of “hate speech.”

The Democrats and neocons will say well that’s a businesses decision. Of course they are intentionally trolling or they simply don’t know any better that these social media platforms play pivotal roles when it comes to the election. Just look at Taylor Swift another powerful figures using social media, to tell people to support abortion and get out and vote which is her right. So you could either support freedom or under some evil deranged or misinformed guy say “well it’s just a business decision Taylor Swift should be banned.”





And that’s the difference between an American patriot and Biden BLM supporter. The American patriot says let’s allow BLM to go on YouTube and say white people are born privileged. To say that the white man is evil. But the Biden BLM supporter will turn around and say no the business can do what they want, and they can even affect the outcome of elections by banning certain figures from their platforms.

It’s all the more interesting because here in 2023 We have a terrible economy, super high inflation under Joe Biden. Out of control illegal immigration and crime throughout the country. To think that Biden supporters and supporters of restrictions of free-speech will go along with that stuff while they are poor, using drugs all the time, obese, or severely underweight, is all the more interesting and astonishing really.

But things are perhaps being taken to a new level. With the idea of further encroachments of free speech in countries like England, Canada and America, where the proposals are to silence, fine and even imprison people who for example, engage in “vaccine disinformation.” in other words simply disagreeing with What a politician say. A clear cut infringement of free speech.

Biden BLM supporters may have already made up their minds along with the neoconservatives. After all they’re the same people who approves of totalitarian shut down of free speech on social media of conservatives in 2020 ….so why wouldn’t they say that somebody who engages in vaccine disinformation should be thrown in jail or fined $1-10 million dollars.


What will be the future of the Internet be in America. Will freedom prevail.???? Will the founding fathers prevail. How about the legacy of The men and women who fought in World War II for freedom…. I think that freedom will prevail and the bad guys will lose.

Of course the internet should be a platform for free speech.

And I agree with some of your points here. But what do you propose be done about your complaints?

 

[my2¢]

The major difference is noted by Remodeling Maidiac is access. YouTube, Twitter and Instagram blocked access for conservatives there by engaging in election interference in 2020 and beyond.

It's the same. Mike Lindell's conservative social media platform "Frank" did even crappier than the liberals' Air America nonsense. Tough luck. Crazy how in today's world folks think it's wrong that Walmart closes unprofitable stores in Chicago. If Exxon charges what the market bears for gasoline and rakes up exorbitant profits, there's cry it is Biden's fault. There are many who believe bakers need to be forced to design wedding cakes for same sex marriages even if it is opposed to their religious belief. It goes on-and-on.

We need to move away from such government interference in private enterprise rather than endorse it.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

Of course the internet should be a platform for free speech.

And I agree with some of your points here. But what do you propose be done about your complaints?

Well, it is a matter of choice by YouTube to censor conservatives that is up to them. To start They are to be criticized for that by politicians. From there other ideas could be brainstormed . I don’t more answers right away. Because I don’t believe that the government should necessarily come in and force them to allow free speech.



Twitter censoring Donald Trump was a very big deal.

The whole thing affects Americans ability to get information because tons of Americans spend the majority of their time on these popular social media websites. It’s a shame that this election interference is occurring.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

So? Isn't that why we have a free press. They reacted, most likely to the smut the Rabid Right was posting and the lude claims of pedophilia about the Democrats Candidates son. Furthermore, if you wanted to see the smut or read about the hard drive Rudy claimed was from Hunter's lap top, there were several outlets that were publishing that information and it was at everyone's internet fingertips. Free Press.

“Smut “. Like the idea that white homeless folks are privilege. Or videos showing men dancing in front of children in provocative sexual manners.

Why not criticize youtube Instead of providing numerous arguments none of which can support this sort of censorship of free speech.??



Father O'Blivion

Blues Man

One of you or both if you have brought up “terms of service”. Well for 15 years, YouTube allowed Hitler supporters. So there’s really no argument here to support what you’re saying. Those online social platforms were clearly politically motivated by democrats to censor free speech of those they don’t like. Including minuscule things getting censored.

The next level is for a government to throw somebody in jail for engaging in “vaccine disinformation” …agreeing with something like that i makes one totalitarian. There’s no room for this behavior in America.