“Listen Carefully it’s Actually Much Darker”: How the Left is Framing Free Speech as a Front for Fascism

As pointed out by Vance, you mean fascists like the leaders in Germany and England. Which caused your cult to freak the fuck out.
Not sure what Vance is babbling about most of the time, but England sure did have a fascist scare once upon a time. We did too.

Democracies are susceptible to fascism. That’s just a historical fact.
 
What happens when the fascists use free speech to convince people to adhere to their ideology?
I wish you actually knew what free speech was. what a shame a grown human being would not know.
 
Everyone on both sides restricts free speech when they can get away with it.
How did Trump restrict free speech. Unlike the Biden administration which actively, aggressively tried to censor any speech on COVID that was contrary to the administration's policies (e.g., lab leak, masks, vaccines ...)
 
How did Trump restrict free speech. Unlike the Biden administration which actively, aggressively tried to censor any speech on COVID that was contrary to the administration's policies (e.g., lab leak, masks, vaccines ...)
 
Not sure what Vance is babbling about most of the time,
So you are speaking from ignorance, quite the admission.
but England sure did have a fascist scare once upon a time. We did too.
Not "once upon a time," today. Today you can go to jail in the UK or Germany for posting that "Muslims suck donkey dick" or protesting that Scientology is a cult.
Democracies are susceptible to fascism. That’s just a historical fact
 
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How did Trump restrict free speech. Unlike the Biden administration which actively, aggressively tried to censor any speech on COVID that was contrary to the administration's policies (e.g., lab leak, masks, vaccines ...)
Telling the AP to go away because they decided not to pray to The Gulf of Mexico. See what I did there? But historical instances are water under the bridge. I'm talking about now. Do social media platforms allow everyone to state there piece? No, and they never have. Does the lamestream news media pick and choose? Of course. Day to day freedom of speech isn't important. It's mostly lies anyway.
 
Telling the AP to go away because they decided not to pray to The Gulf of Mexico. See what I did there?
No. You brought some weird religious thing in. The AP are just being assholes trying to tweak the President. When Obama changed the name of Mt. McKinley, did they keep using the name Mt. McKinley? Of course not.
But historical instances are water under the bridge. I'm talking about now. Do social media platforms allow everyone to state there piece? No, and they never have. Does the lamestream news media pick and choose? Of course. Day to day freedom of speech isn't important. It's mostly lies anyway.
 
America doesn't even make the top 50 anymore, on freedom and free speech.
 
True. But first they have to seize control of power, which requires persuading people with populist rhetoric.
You take your chances with a free and open society. If you cannot persuade enough people to your point of view, then you just keep trying or crafting better arguments.

It is NEVER acceptable to control who gets to say what. There are already far to many restrictions on speech in the US.

It should be limited to slander and speech that initiates violence. Even then, its questionable given that our universities often have speech the initiates violence. They are subject to the First Amendment laws because they accept public funding.
 
You take your chances with a free and open society. If you cannot persuade enough people to your point of view, then you just keep trying or crafting better arguments.

It is NEVER acceptable to control who gets to say what. There are already far to many restrictions on speech in the US.

It should be limited to slander and speech that initiates violence. Even then, its questionable given that our universities often have speech the initiates violence. They are subject to the First Amendment laws because they accept public funding.
Sure. Free speech has been used to facilitate genocide, and that’s a risk we take.

But libel, that crosses the line.

Someone called Trump a rapist when he’s actually guilty of sexual assault isn’t protected. But whipping up a society to exterminate Jews is.
 
Democrats hate free speech.

Democrats want it to be illegal to miss gender someone or say the jabs are poison.
 
Sure. Free speech has been used to facilitate genocide, and that’s a risk we take.

But libel, that crosses the line.

Someone called Trump a rapist when he’s actually guilty of sexual assault isn’t protected. But whipping up a society to exterminate Jews is.
Free speech will never actually facilitate genocide. You have to have a degenerate population to begin with in order to pull that off.

But by all means, lets be sure we squelch speech we don't like out of fear. It's the fascist way.
 
Free speech will never actually facilitate genocide. You have to have a degenerate population to begin with in order to pull that off.

But by all means, lets be sure we squelch speech we don't like out of fear. It's the fascist way.
Lord knows we wouldn't want to ever squelch free speech, unless of course someone makes a minor misstatement about the nature of a sexual assault or edits a interview in a way you don't like. That's when we squelch free speech. Genocide isn't nearly as serious.
 
No. You brought some weird religious thing in. The AP are just being assholes trying to tweak the President. When Obama changed the name of Mt. McKinley, did they keep using the name Mt. McKinley? Of course not.
They liked Obama. Are they back to Mt. McKinley now? I still think that he should rename Melania to Stephanie.
 
Lord knows we wouldn't want to ever squelch free speech, unless of course someone makes a minor misstatement about the nature of a sexual assault or edits a interview in a way you don't like. That's when we squelch free speech. Genocide isn't nearly as serious.
What you are doing is making up excuses for your desire to force everyone to think, speak, and believe like you do.

There have been many in history who have done that.

Hitler
Stalin
Lenin
Pol Pot
Mao
Biden.

It has resulted in 100+ million dead in just the last century alone.
 
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