Zone1 Did Jesus come to save the Jews?

The Old Covenant was a NATIONAL COVENANT. It had NOTHING to do with SPIRITUAL salvation
Different Strokes for Different Folks

It took a separate religion to appeal to a different market. Christianity is not a replacement religion that would make Judaism obsolete. If that were the case, the whole Old Testament could be ignored as obsolete. Yet it became part of the Christian Bible and was referenced often in religious writing.
 
Or maybe it was needed because the other one wasn't be offered to different markets.
Their Messiah Had to be a Liberator, Like George Washington or William Tell

Which proves that Christianity did not offer the Jews a better faith, and they had no obligation to accept Jesus as their Messiah.
He would be Europe's Moses.
 
Their Messiah Had to be a Liberator,
He was a liberator to all who listened to his teaching, and acted on it, that Divine Law is not to be taken literally, the words not necessarily directly connected to the literal meaning of the words used. It follows that the subjects were deliberately buried and hidden like a treasure using figurative language, the language of the prophets.

It was true then and it still is true today and will remain the truth for as long as heaven and earth endure.

If you accept that revelation, and act on it, you and anybody will be set free from the burden of the Law which is the death, a curse, for non compliance, because following the wrong way to understand and comply with the Law, according to the unclean teaching of the Talmud, what Jesus called "the traditions of men", is sinful.

For instance, one cannot comply with the literal interpretation of the Law that prohibits eating the flesh of swine that do not ruminate without violating the deeper implications of the exact same Law because the teaching that the subject of Kosher Law is food is the vile and loathsome flesh of unclean creatures that do not ruminate.

The way that Jesus taught was the same way that Moses originally taught which was lost to time after his death.

"The kingdom of Heaven is like hidden treasure, BURIED in a field. The man who found it BURIED IT AGAIN."

Hence "Eat my flesh"

Now you know.
 
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Their Messiah Had to be a Liberator, Like George Washington or William Tell

Which proves that Christianity did not offer the Jews a better faith, and they had no obligation to accept Jesus as their Messiah.
He would be Europe's Moses.
Everything is choice but I don't see it as Christianity had nothing better to offer as much as it was that they rejected Christ because they embraced the form of religion above God. It's like an Amish man growing a beard so that he can show he isn't vain and then becoming vain about not showing his vanity. They forgot what the goal was.
 
Everything is choice but I don't see it as Christianity had nothing better to offer as much as it was that they rejected Christ because they embraced the form of religion above God. It's like an Amish man growing a beard so that he can show he isn't vain and then becoming vain about not showing his vanity. They forgot what the goal was.
Says the guy who set aside Divine Law and turned to a piece of bread, made by human hands, for spiritual life.

Derp.
 
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Says the guy who set aside Divine Law and turned to a piece of bread, made by human hands, for spiritual life.

Derp.
Says the religious nutjob on his crusade against Christianity.
 
Everything is choice but I don't see it as Christianity had nothing better to offer as much as it was that they rejected Christ because they embraced the form of religion above God. It's like an Amish man growing a beard so that he can show he isn't vain and then becoming vain about not showing his vanity. They forgot what the goal was.
The Hebrew masses didn't want to be opiated
 
The Hebrew masses didn't want to be opiated
No idea what that is supposed to mean. But if you are referring to Marx, that was a fairly misunderstood comment. It doesn't mean what most people think it means. In fact, it's literally the basis for the argument for socialism and communism. The world is unfair, you don't have to make sacrifices, we will take care of your material needs.
 
And some pretend that it is not irrational prejudice/bigotry/hatred that drives their negative feelings about Jews.
IKR? That poster talks about “Gd’s curse on the Jews,” yet remains blind to his own antisemitism.
 
Or was he only sent to the descendants of the other tribes of Israel?
Your question about whom Jesus was “sent to” assumes that Jesus was sent at all. From the Jewish point of view, he was just another Jewish leader with a small band of followers. The vast majority of the Jewish people at that time never even heard of him.
 
Your question about whom Jesus was “sent to” assumes that Jesus was sent at all. From the Jewish point of view, he was just another Jewish leader with a small band of followers. The vast majority of the Jewish people at that time never even heard of him.
What's worse is that many who knew him saw that he was openly an unrepentant sinner and low level criminal of no account, if not insane, in the eyes of all who took the Law literally, and he was, if they were right to do so.
 
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Your question about whom Jesus was “sent to” assumes that Jesus was sent at all. From the Jewish point of view, he was just another Jewish leader with a small band of followers. The vast majority of the Jewish people at that time never even heard of him.
The NT account is all we have for such information. We can embellish it with the history of the times, but we can't change it. Jesus stated (emphatically), "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel". This is confirmed by OT prophecies, which are cited in the NT concerning this.
 
The NT account is all we have for such information. We can embellish it with the history of the times, but we can't change it. Jesus (emphatically) stated, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel". This is confirmed by OT prophecies, which are cited in the NT concerning this event.
Well as I said, that is coming from the Christian perspective.

The Jewish perspective does not follow the NT or even make reference to it.

So….you believe Jesus was sent by Gd, and Jews do not. You might be right, or we may be right. But everyone is free to believe according to the dictates of their religion.
 
Well as I said, that is coming from the Christian perspective.

The Jewish perspective does not follow the NT or even make reference to it.

So….you believe Jesus was sent by Gd, and Jews do not. You might be right, or we may be right. But everyone is free to believe according to the dictates of their religion.
True. One thing we both know; Jesus wasn't sent to the Jews, although there are some Christian ministries trying to convert Jews and there are 'messianic Jews' trying do do it as well.
 
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True. One thing we both know; Jesus wasn't sent to the Jews, although there are some Christian ministries trying to convert Jews and there are 'messianic Jews' trying do do it as well.
Very few messianic Jews. Attempts to convert have failed miserably. That’s why they started with the “Jews for Jesus” crap, as a side assault rather than frontal. They’re very sneaky.
 
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