Zone1 Did Jesus come to save the Jews?

[The Sage of Main Street]

BOTH

Illegitimate Power and Those Who Refuse to Blame It

Neither. The Romans didn't care what Jesus was preaching, as long as it wasn't against their rule. But Jesus attacked the High Priests, collaborators who protested to their Roman friends. They also hired a mob of Hebrew bums to shout, "Give us Barabbas!"

 

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"All for One, and That One All for Himself"

The sadistic bosses are control-freaks themselves. In order to feed their lust for power over their underlings, they demand willing human sacrifice as a qualification for being hired. They enforce a command economy over employment.

Also Stalinist is their "cult of personality." The applicants ought to do motivational research on their prospective bosses.

You sound like an ideal employee.

 

[Woodznutz]

Self-Declared Good Shepherds Using Scapegoats to Distract Their Herds

According tp the Covenant, the Jews were already saved, so it wasn't necessary to re-save them. Jesus was the apostle to the Gentiles.

According to the 'covenant' the Jews would offer sacrifices to atone for their sins. They didn't accept Jesus, alive or dead, as their messiah. As such, they are unsaved.

Jesus was/is priest and apostle (one sent forth) to the lost sheep of the house of Israel and the Gentiles. Of the 15 million Jews few are 'messianic'.

 

[Woodznutz]

jesus prevailed because they were a part of the greater 1st century events the repudiation of judaism as a selective religion hereditary idolatry they claimed by the heavens - as well their false commandments claimed by a single jew w/ blood on their hands. jesus would never have used the word gentile to describe anyone as a religious reference. jesus is never a jew.

What was his ethnicity/nationality?

 

[BreezeWood]

What was his ethnicity/nationality?

heavenly ... same as a&e - garden earth they rendered as their sabbath and kept holy.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

According tp the Covenant, the Jews were already saved, so it wasn't necessary to re-save them. Jesus was the apostle to the Gentiles

The Old Covenant was a NATIONAL COVENANT. It had NOTHING to do with SPIRITUAL salvation

 

[Carl in Michigan]

According to the 'covenant' the Jews would offer sacrifices to atone for their sins. They didn't accept Jesus, alive or dead, as their messiah. As such, they are unsaved

Salvation is not a group thing. It is INDIVIDUAL.

GENTILES are not saved either, although SOME FEW are

 

[Woodznutz]

heavenly ... same as a&e - garden earth they rendered as their sabbath and kept holy.

Sigh.

 

[Woodznutz]

Salvation is not a group thing. It is INDIVIDUAL.

GENTILES are not saved either, although SOME FEW are

No one is formally saved until the resurrection.

 

[BreezeWood]

Salvation is not a group thing. It is INDIVIDUAL.

let them know that who survived the heavenly deluge during the time of noah ... oh, there weren't any. and the message to humanity from the heavens conveyed by the event.

 

[mudwhistle]

Oh sure, they go near that water, but you won't find them splashing around with the goyim.

Wrong:

They do it all of the time at the Olympics.

 

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The Old Covenant was a NATIONAL COVENANT. It had NOTHING to do with SPIRITUAL salvation

Did ancient Jews believe in a personal God?

Did ancient Jews believe God works in their lives?

 

[Hawkins]

The big picture is, the Jews are God's established media, more or less functions as CNN does. God wanted Jesus' story to be reported and Israel to be switched from 'edit mode' to the 'broadcast mode' towards the world, just as how CNN broadcast a story to all the states of America.

It turned out that the Jews failed the job, and now Christianity remains the only religion broadcasting towards all the nations of this world, just as how CNN broadcast towards all states of America. It's all because of the explicit command that, "the gospel (news) must be preached (i.e., broadcast) to all nations (= CNN to all states).

 

[BreezeWood]

It turned out that the Jews failed the job, and now Christianity remains the only religion broadcasting towards all the nations of this world,

that is not true, 4th century christianity is the crucifiers response to jesus not their re3presentative -

the 1st century events is the repudiation of judaism - false commandments hereditary idolatry et al and is an injustice for why those in the 1st century gave their lives and did so for their beliefs christianity fails to honor.

 

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that is not true, 4th century christianity is the crucifiers response to jesus not their re3presentative -

the 1st century events is the repudiation of judaism - false commandments hereditary idolatry et al and is an injustice for why those in the 1st century gave their lives and did so for their beliefs christianity fails to honor.

What is your evidence for these beliefs?

 

[BreezeWood]

What is your evidence for these beliefs?

provide the claimed heavenly etched tablets by the liar moses w/ commandments that never existed or remove the judaism fallacy or jesus from the christian bible - sinner.

 

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provide the claimed heavenly etched tablets by the liar moses w/ commandments that never existed or remove the judaism fallacy or jesus from the christian bible - sinner.

I don't have them. I have written biblical manuscripts and historical events as my evidence for my beliefs. Do you have no evidence for your beliefs?

 

[BreezeWood]

I don't have them. I have written biblical manuscripts and historical events as my evidence for my beliefs. Do you have no evidence for your beliefs?

provide the claimed heavenly etched tablets by the liar moses w/ commandments that never existed or remove the judaism fallacy or jesus from the christian bible - sinner.

where is your proof they ever existed.

 

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where is your proof they ever existed.

While the existence of stone tablets containing the Ten Commandments is supported by historical and archaeological evidence, particularly from the first few centuries CE, the biblical account of Moses receiving the tablets directly from God on Mount Sinai is not considered a literal, historical event by many scholars. These stone tablets are viewed more as symbolic representations of a moral code and are not seen as the original tablets described in the Bible.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

You sound like an ideal employee.

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