Dicks and Walmart getting sued HAHA

[jknowgood]

Republicans should just change their name to the Socialist Party of America now that they want to tell private businesses what to do.

We're you for the queer couple that forced the baker to bake the cake?

 

[AntonToo]

Dick's will probably lose on age but not on limiting their firearm inventory.

 

[Correll]

They will lose, too.

Unless they get some lib hack, who just rules as he feels like.

 

[martybegan]

Dick's will probably lose on age but not on limiting their firearm inventory.

They can sell whatever they feel like, however once they sell it in an area open to the public, PA laws apply.

 

[martybegan]

They will lose, too.

Unless they get some lib hack, who just rules as he feels like.

That always is a risk.

 

[Vastator]

Republicans should just change their name to the Socialist Party of America now that they want to tell private businesses what to do.

You got your cake didnt you?

And where did you stand on that issue?

a better question is where to you stand on it? Can bakeries discriminate if Walmart can discriminate?

The difference is that a baker is an artist, and as such has to craft the item desired by the customer. A retailer is distributing a ready made product, sold commercially on the open market. Wal-Mart, nor Dicks, are being asked to create anything. If the queers wanted to buy a ready made cake offered by the bakery; they might have a legit claim. But no law should force anyone to create an artistic work. That would be like forcing a child photographer to take pictures of you fucking your wife...

 

[Hiryuu]

Two of three posters say the baker did not win.

You can decide whether or not you think the baker won or lost.
In both of these cases the court ruled against the baker.

Bakery pays $135K for refusing to make gay wedding cake
Baker forced to make gay wedding cakes, undergo sensitivity training, after losing lawsuit

 

[Care4all]

since its been a long time since I was 25 I really don't know, but I do remember seeing something about higher rates and mandatory insurance for those under 25 on the Hertz website. I'm sure someone on here knows the facts, if so, please post.

Almost all insurance companies charge more for drivers under the age of 25.
This makes the issue a matter of cost in providing the service.

They are not denying the people under the age of 25 the ability to use their service.
They are requiring them to foot the additional cost the service requires.

You are not required to take out insurance with rental cars?? You can use your own insurance for your own car, if your own car is not being used while renting a car.....

And many states it has nothing to do with insurance, they just will not rent it to you, period.....when under a certain age...... even if you legally are driving age and with a State drivers license.....?

 

[Hiryuu]

The difference is that a baker is an artist, and as such has to craft the item desired by the customer. A retailer is distributing a ready made product, sold commercially on the open market. Wal-Mart, nor Dicks, are being asked to create anything. If the queers wanted to buy a ready made cake offered by the bakery; they might have a legit claim. But no law should force anyone to create an artistic work. That would be like forcing a child photographer to take pictures of you fucking your wife...

Both of the cake shops I know were sued, sell "custom cakes".

If I make custom cakes or specific cakes for specific orders, I can charge the customer whatever I want for the cake.
If I don't want to sell someone a cake, I can charge them $1 million dollars for my services at making them a custom cake.

The problem is when the bakers and the couples made it all about their beliefs and not about the cake.

 

[Papageorgio]

They actually can be used to protect the young, as in cases where some car rental companies wouldn't rent to anyone under 25.

Is there a law in Oregon that makes it illegal to rent a car to someone under 25?

If there is not, then maybe Dicks has a fighting chance???

Do age discrimination laws only cover 18 and older??? And not 17 or younger?

You dont seem to understand the situation very well

How so??? If rental car businesses can legally refuse to rent to those under 25 why can't Dicks do the same?

Car rental companies in many states have to rent to someone under 25, the person renting needs to pay for the extra cost of the insurance. They are not allowed to discriminate based on age. Oregon and New York are required to because of age discrimination laws. Take that back about Oregon, I’m not sure, New York and Michigan they can rent.

 

[Hiryuu]

You are not required to take out insurance with rental cars?? You can use your own insurance for your own car, if your own car is not being used while renting a car.....

And many states it has nothing to do with insurance, they just will not rent it to you, period.....when under a certain age...... even if you legally are driving age and with a State drivers license.....?

The company is required to carry insurance on all its cars (that's the law).
If the rate is affected as the result of allowing drivers under the age of 25 to drive your cars, then you are well within your rights to charge the customer that incurs that cost the additional cost of providing those customers the service.

 

[Care4all]

They actually can be used to protect the young, as in cases where some car rental companies wouldn't rent to anyone under 25.

Is there a law in Oregon that makes it illegal to rent a car to someone under 25?

If there is not, then maybe Dicks has a fighting chance???

Do age discrimination laws only cover 18 and older??? And not 17 or younger?

You dont seem to understand the situation very well

How so??? If rental car businesses can legally refuse to rent to those under 25 why can't Dicks do the same?

Car rental companies have to rent to someone under 25, the person renting needs to pay for the extra cost of the insurance. They are not allowed to discriminate based on age.

I was denied a car rental when under 21.....this was long ago, and paying higher insurance price was not an option.....

Maybe states are different?

So you are saying if the driving age is 16 in the state, the car rentals have to rent to them???

 

[there4eyeM]

Perhaps there should be universal, government administered firearms insurance.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Perhaps there should be universal, government administered firearms insurance.

No.

 

[Hiryuu]

Perhaps there should be universal, government administered firearms insurance.

Private insurers already provide insurance and services to firearms owners.

 

[Vastator]

They actually can be used to protect the young, as in cases where some car rental companies wouldn't rent to anyone under 25.

Is there a law in Oregon that makes it illegal to rent a car to someone under 25?

If there is not, then maybe Dicks has a fighting chance???

Do age discrimination laws only cover 18 and older??? And not 17 or younger?

You dont seem to understand the situation very well

How so??? If rental car businesses can legally refuse to rent to those under 25 why can't Dicks do the same?

Car rental companies have to rent to someone under 25, the person renting needs to pay for the extra cost of the insurance. They are not allowed to discriminate based on age.

I was denied a car rental when under 21.....this was long ago, and paying higher insurance price was not an option.....

Maybe states are different?

So you are saying if the driving age is 16 in the state, the car rentals have to rent to them???

That could be different. I would think that legally a 16 year old isn't lawfully able to sign off on a binding legal contract, without being underwritten by a parent, or guardian.

 

[martybegan]

They actually can be used to protect the young, as in cases where some car rental companies wouldn't rent to anyone under 25.

Is there a law in Oregon that makes it illegal to rent a car to someone under 25?

If there is not, then maybe Dicks has a fighting chance???

Do age discrimination laws only cover 18 and older??? And not 17 or younger?

You dont seem to understand the situation very well

How so??? If rental car businesses can legally refuse to rent to those under 25 why can't Dicks do the same?

Car rental companies have to rent to someone under 25, the person renting needs to pay for the extra cost of the insurance. They are not allowed to discriminate based on age.

I was denied a car rental when under 21.....this was long ago, and paying higher insurance price was not an option.....

Maybe states are different?

So you are saying if the driving age is 16 in the state, the car rentals have to rent to them???

it depends on if the States count age as discriminatory under their PA law.

 

[there4eyeM]

Since we collectivize the responsibility for firearms violence, it is only reasonable that the compensation be treated likewise.
Auto insurance, too, should be issued by the same source that issues drivers' licenses.

 

[Papageorgio]

since its been a long time since I was 25 I really don't know, but I do remember seeing something about higher rates and mandatory insurance for those under 25 on the Hertz website. I'm sure someone on here knows the facts, if so, please post.

Almost all insurance companies charge more for drivers under the age of 25.
This makes the issue a matter of cost in providing the service.

They are not denying the people under the age of 25 the ability to use their service.
They are requiring them to foot the additional cost the service requires.

You are not required to take out insurance with rental cars?? You can use your own insurance for your own car, if your own car is not being used while renting a car.....

And many states it has nothing to do with insurance, they just will not rent it to you, period.....when under a certain age...... even if you legally are driving age and with a State drivers license.....?

They actually can be used to protect the young, as in cases where some car rental companies wouldn't rent to anyone under 25.

Is there a law in Oregon that makes it illegal to rent a car to someone under 25?

If there is not, then maybe Dicks has a fighting chance???

Do age discrimination laws only cover 18 and older??? And not 17 or younger?

You dont seem to understand the situation very well

How so??? If rental car businesses can legally refuse to rent to those under 25 why can't Dicks do the same?

Car rental companies have to rent to someone under 25, the person renting needs to pay for the extra cost of the insurance. They are not allowed to discriminate based on age.

I was denied a car rental when under 21.....this was long ago, and paying higher insurance price was not an option.....

Maybe states are different?

So you are saying if the driving age is 16 in the state, the car rentals have to rent to them???

16 year olds can’t enter into a legal contract.

 

[TNHarley]

They actually can be used to protect the young, as in cases where some car rental companies wouldn't rent to anyone under 25.

Is there a law in Oregon that makes it illegal to rent a car to someone under 25?

If there is not, then maybe Dicks has a fighting chance???

Do age discrimination laws only cover 18 and older??? And not 17 or younger?

You dont seem to understand the situation very well

How so??? If rental car businesses can legally refuse to rent to those under 25 why can't Dicks do the same?

Car rental companies have to rent to someone under 25, the person renting needs to pay for the extra cost of the insurance. They are not allowed to discriminate based on age.

I was denied a car rental when under 21.....this was long ago, and paying higher insurance price was not an option.....

Maybe states are different?

So you are saying if the driving age is 16 in the state, the car rentals have to rent to them???

Again, all but 2 states give car insurers the option of how to rent their vehicles.
Age Requirement to Rent a Car
I cant seem to find legislation that states that though.