Fair Warning to the GOP, embracing Israel and "believing 911" are 180 degrees from where the younger voters are

[BackAgain]

It is a simple truth. The last time we took a poll on

Do you believe official version of 911?

was 2014

Google Search

"A 2014 study found that 50% of Americans subscribe to at least one conspiracy theory related to 9/11"

What Google isn't admitting there is well under 50% answered YES I BELIEVE official version of 911.

That was 11 years ago, and it hasn't "improved" for the GOP since, which is why there have not been any more publicly released poll numbers.


Then there are the polls on Israel today.

Google Search

"Polling data consistently shows that younger Americans express significantly less support for Israel than older generations"

Support for Israel continues to deteriorate, especially among Democrats and young people | Brookings

American public opinion of Israel has continued to worsen as the war in Gaza drags on and conditions for Palestinians worsen.

www.brookings.edu

"The survey also reveals that 45% of voters believe that Israel is committing genocide against the Palestinians; only 31% disagree."

That 31% number is a big time warning sign, because that is "Pro Israel Christian" + "Zionist Jew" and THAT's IT.




"Compared to 2022, negative views of Israel have risen across the board, though at vastly different rates when broken down by age and party. Pew has found that among U.S. adults, negative views have gone from 42% to 53%. Among Republicans, they have risen from 27% to 37%; among Democrats, from 53% to 69%. Looked at by age, young Republicans aged 18-49 have shifted from 35% having an unfavorable view of Israel to 50% unfavorable, while such views among Republicans aged 50+ have gone up only marginally from 19% to 23%. Among Democrats, there has been an increase of 62% to 71% in the 18 to 49-year-old demographic, and an even larger increase from 43% to 66% among 50+ year-olds."





The truth is there. Supporting Israel and pushing 911/the terrorists stuff is falling on deaf ears, especially younger voters. People don't believe any of it. The younger generation is flat out anti Zionist Fascist, and they aren't fooled by media BS anymore.


If the GOP wants to be a majority party in the future, it needs to wake TF up on this subject. Pandering to old pill popping IQ<5 pro Israel Christians is a strategy doomed to fail in the future. The emergence of Candace Owens and others is a symptom of this.



There is precisely nothing conservative about supporting Israel. Conservative foreign policy is non interventionalist. That's why the pre Fox News GOP was not Zionist, not at all, because it actually was conservative, which is why we had a debt under $6 trillion and a budget surplus when Newt Gingrich was "couped" by the Fox News crowd in 1998.

The GOP should ditch supporting Israel and come clean about 911, and PROSECUTE IT.

Who cares? Younger voters shouldn’t be voting based on such distractions anyway. No voter should.

 

[BackAgain]

Nope. I'm a center-left independent

You’re an unmitigated far left idiot as well as a liar.

 

[Independent thinker]

It is a simple truth. The last time we took a poll on

Do you believe official version of 911?

was 2014

Google Search

"A 2014 study found that 50% of Americans subscribe to at least one conspiracy theory related to 9/11"

What Google isn't admitting there is well under 50% answered YES I BELIEVE official version of 911.

That was 11 years ago, and it hasn't "improved" for the GOP since, which is why there have not been any more publicly released poll numbers.


Then there are the polls on Israel today.

Google Search

"Polling data consistently shows that younger Americans express significantly less support for Israel than older generations"

Support for Israel continues to deteriorate, especially among Democrats and young people | Brookings

American public opinion of Israel has continued to worsen as the war in Gaza drags on and conditions for Palestinians worsen.

www.brookings.edu

"The survey also reveals that 45% of voters believe that Israel is committing genocide against the Palestinians; only 31% disagree."

That 31% number is a big time warning sign, because that is "Pro Israel Christian" + "Zionist Jew" and THAT's IT.




"Compared to 2022, negative views of Israel have risen across the board, though at vastly different rates when broken down by age and party. Pew has found that among U.S. adults, negative views have gone from 42% to 53%. Among Republicans, they have risen from 27% to 37%; among Democrats, from 53% to 69%. Looked at by age, young Republicans aged 18-49 have shifted from 35% having an unfavorable view of Israel to 50% unfavorable, while such views among Republicans aged 50+ have gone up only marginally from 19% to 23%. Among Democrats, there has been an increase of 62% to 71% in the 18 to 49-year-old demographic, and an even larger increase from 43% to 66% among 50+ year-olds."





The truth is there. Supporting Israel and pushing 911/the terrorists stuff is falling on deaf ears, especially younger voters. People don't believe any of it. The younger generation is flat out anti Zionist Fascist, and they aren't fooled by media BS anymore.


If the GOP wants to be a majority party in the future, it needs to wake TF up on this subject. Pandering to old pill popping IQ<5 pro Israel Christians is a strategy doomed to fail in the future. The emergence of Candace Owens and others is a symptom of this.



There is precisely nothing conservative about supporting Israel. Conservative foreign policy is non interventionalist. That's why the pre Fox News GOP was not Zionist, not at all, because it actually was conservative, which is why we had a debt under $6 trillion and a budget surplus when Newt Gingrich was "couped" by the Fox News crowd in 1998.

The GOP should ditch supporting Israel and come clean about 911, and PROSECUTE IT.

The young are stupid. You either embrace the truth or you are stupid.

 

[DGS49]

It is clear to me that the views and opinions of "young people" - that is to say people who are old enough to vote, but were born after the fall of the Soviet Union - are largely based on ignorance of recent history.

The most obvious manifestation of that ignorance is their relative embrace of "socialism."

If you grew up seeing how bad the Soviet Union was, how they cheated at everything, how they would kill or imprison you if you even threatened to leave, how they controlled athletes, scientists and artists who left the USSR to go to events in the West, then there is no way you would embrace socialism, or have any illusions about its intrinsic evil.

And the Soviet Union was the most "successful" socialist regime in history.

As for Israel, if your views are based on the "history" since October 7th, then it is understandable that you would condemn Israel for continuing to blast Gaza/Hamas long after one would think they have "won" this war. But if you had watched the history since 1948, where Israel's neighbors have constantly launched terrorist attacks on Israel, including thousands and thousands of rockets launched at civilian targets over the years, then you would understand that Israel needs for this shit to stop, and they will do everything within their power to make it stop. The old truism remains valid: If the "Palestinians" would lay down their arms, peace would prevail; if the Israelis would lay down their arms they would be wiped out.

Ignorance is everywhere. We all have it, in spades. But to be ignorant about important matters is dangerous.

 

[EMH]

My focus is solely on the results.

The "results" fo calling Zohran "Terrorist" "Islamist" and making NYC Mayor race a referendum on 911....


Zohran won


So maybe that wasn't a smart strategy. Maybe it is time to get a clue and realize that

1. Americans do not believe official version of 911
2. just calling Muslims "terrorists" gets Democrats elected

 

[EMH]

their relative embrace of "socialism."

Public education pushes that. The solution is school vouchers. The opponents of school vouchers in the GOP are

W
Huck
the pro Israel RINO

But if you had watched the history since 1948, where Israel's neighbors have constantly launched terrorist attacks on Israel

That's the biggest lie of all. Einstein warned us in1948

Einstein Letter Warning Of Zionist Facism In Israel

Eisenhower and JFK were both told that Israel did not need weapons because they were not being attacked, and that the violence was all their doing, just as Einstein predicted.



In 1967, Israel lied about being attacked

https://www.cia.gov/resources/csi/static/CIA-Analysis-1967-War.pdf

Helms was awakened at 3:00 in the morning on 5 June by a call from the CIA Operations Center. The Foreign Broadcast Information Service had picked up reports that Israel had launched its attack. (OCI soon concluded that the Israelis—contrary to their claims—had fired first. hence ISRAEL LIED about being attacked from Gaza) President Johnson was gratified that because of CIA analyses and Helms’s tip, he could inform congressional leaders later in the day that he had been expecting Israel’s move



because the entire purpose of offing JFK, hate hoaxing Gulf of Tonkin, and 'nam was to ARM ISRAEL. Our Army and Marine vets from 'nam all tell us they were promised new weapons that never arrived, because LBJ funneled them to Israel instead.

Ignorance is everywhere.

As soon as you fly a motorized paraglider 107 style, you will have some credibility, but you won't so you don't. You are a shill of bullshit Zionist Fascist lies. Charlie Kirk was one of those who noticed 107 was complete bullshit too...

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2023/10/17/charlie_kirk_did_someone_in_israel_tell_army_to_stand_down_during_attack_thats_a_legitimate_non-conspiracy_question.html

"I find this very hard to believe."




You, Fox News, and the Jew Frauds of Christian Preachers preach 100% bullshit that israel is somehow the "victim" of "islamic terror." The American People are no longer buying that save the completely treasonous math and science invalids known as "Pro Israel Christians."



The GOP will go off a cliff in the future if it keeps pandering to your side.

 

[EMH]

The young are stupid.

ANYONE in 2025 who claims to still believe official version of 911 is either stupid, treasonous, or both.

 

[EMH]

For the record, while questioning the "official version" of anything qualifies as a conspiracy theory, in the world of politics, democracy style, what the majority believes matters.

You can argue questioning 911 is "conspiracy theory." The OP notes the last public poll showed 50% question 911, well under 50% "believed official version."

But in the context of POLITICS the 50% number matters. It actually does. It is the magic number to get, because when you get 50% plus one, you never lose.

This IS A POLITICAL TOPIC because it is about the future of one of the two main parties and it documents what the polls show and why that is big trouble for GOP if it keeps following its current course. That one of the two main issues here, 911, qualifies as conspiracy theory does not justify moving the topic. The other topic is "supporting Israel." Those two issues, believing 911 and supporting Israel, are way out of touch with today's younger voters, and that is a 100% purely POLITICAL SUBJECT.

 

[Doc7505]

Dodge.

Most "conspiracy theorists" on 911 believe ISRAEL did it.






Laughable, that's media spin for THEY DO NOT BELIEVE THE OFFICIAL VERSION...

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You've been reading too many conspiracy theories, racist anti-semitic articles and Leftist dribble.
If anyone is responsible it would be the Clinton administration for blindly allowing the terrorists to train flying these planes for at least three years before the attack in Florida.

 

[EMH]

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You've been reading too many conspiracy theories and racist anti-semitic articles.

like the Google poll cited in the OP from 2014?

You live in a ******* bubble if you think Americans believe official version of 911. The only demographic that stupid is Pro Israel Christian.

When you campaign on 911 in a city like NYC where 80%+ don't believe 911, people just vote against you. They hate you. They should hate you. You are a TREASONOUS ******* LIAR and you lack any patriotism at all to America.

 

[Unkotare]

...

Ignorance is everywhere. We all have it, in spades. ...

YOU sure as hell do.

 

[Unkotare]

According to the EMH, "the Jooos did it."

That seems to be his answer to everything.

Like your attitude toward Mormons?

 

[PeterPilot]

"At least one conspiracy theory" - that means nothing.
That does not mean 50% of people believe our own government did this - and there was bombs planted on the front of the planes etc.
That would literally be a case of mass hysteria

As a graduate Conspiracy Theorist, I would like to educate you on terms and semantics.

There are 2 broad categories of CT. The first is Official Conspiracy Theories, an example of which is that Tyler Robinson shot Charlie Kirk, and the Official Theory regarding 911, that 19 arabs with box cutters hijacked 4 airplanes and flew them into certain buildings and elsewhere.

The second category is basically anything else. Any CT other than an Official Theory advanced by the government.

The OP is correct, compared to just 10 years ago, many people now understand the Official Theory of 911 is intellectually bankrupt. It is contradicted by all the facts and evidence.

 

[PeterPilot]

The truth is unpleasant for some.

 

[EMH]

many people now understand the Official Theory of 911 is intellectually bankrupt

and really the only people on Planet Earth who do not are the Pro Israel Christians, especially the older ones, because the younger ones are already tired of noticing that what Fox and JDAAC Preacher claim has been BS all along...

 

[BackAgain]

ANYONE in 2025 who claims to still believe official version of 911 is either stupid, treasonous, or both.

You’re a moron.

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

The first Trump Admin., via Attorney General Barr, shut down a Federal Hearing concerning the Investigation!!​

We were Lied to, and the Trump Admin. continues to cover up what truly happened!!!!

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New York Fire Commissioners Call For new 9/11 Investigation: “Overwhelming Evidence Of Explosives”​

Date: July 30, 2019
"History was made this month in regard to 9/11

as New York area fire commissioners called for a new investigation into the tragic events that unfolded that day. The resolution called for a new investigation due to the “overwhelming evidence” that “pre-planted explosives . . . caused the destruction of the three World Trade Center buildings.”


On July 24, 2019, the Franklin Square and Munson Fire District, which oversees a volunteer fire department serving a hamlet of 30,000 residents just outside of Queens, New York, became the first legislative body in the country to officially support a new investigation into the events of 9/11, according to Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth.


The resolution calling for a new investigation was drafted by Commissioner Christopher Gioia and it was immediately and unanimously approved by the five commissioners."

 

[EMH]

The first Trump Admin., via Attorney General Barr, shut down a Federal Hearing concerning the Investigation!!​

We were Lied to, and the Trump Admin. continues to cover up what truly happened!!!!

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​

New York Fire Commissioners Call For new 9/11 Investigation: “Overwhelming Evidence Of Explosives”​

Date: July 30, 2019
"History was made this month in regard to 9/11

as New York area fire commissioners called for a new investigation into the tragic events that unfolded that day. The resolution called for a new investigation due to the “overwhelming evidence” that “pre-planted explosives . . . caused the destruction of the three World Trade Center buildings.”


On July 24, 2019, the Franklin Square and Munson Fire District, which oversees a volunteer fire department serving a hamlet of 30,000 residents just outside of Queens, New York, became the first legislative body in the country to officially support a new investigation into the events of 9/11, according to Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth.


The resolution calling for a new investigation was drafted by Commissioner Christopher Gioia and it was immediately and unanimously approved by the five commissioners."

Under 30% of Americans answer YES when asked if they still believe official version of 911.

In that under 30% are Jews like BackAgain who knew it was fraud all along, and the dumbest demographic in the history of life in the Milky Way, the Pro Israel Christian.

 

[Soupnazi630]

As a graduate Conspiracy Theorist, I would like to educate you on terms and semantics.

There are 2 broad categories of CT. The first is Official Conspiracy Theories, an example of which is that Tyler Robinson shot Charlie Kirk, and the Official Theory regarding 911, that 19 arabs with box cutters hijacked 4 airplanes and flew them into certain buildings and elsewhere.

The second category is basically anything else. Any CT other than an Official Theory advanced by the government.

The OP is correct, compared to just 10 years ago, many people now understand the Official Theory of 911 is intellectually bankrupt. It is contradicted by all the facts and evidence.

Wrong

Most people kknow the coonspircy theories you advance about 911 are grabage and have no facts or evidence to support them

There is no Official Conspiracy Theory

You can educate no one because conspiracy theory believers are fools

 

[Soupnazi630]

The truth is unpleasant for some.

Like you and EMH