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So Democrats are now following Trump? That is why the Democratic Party numbers are slipping? Republican numbers held steady at 26%, Independents dropped 8 points and Democrats dropped 21 points. This isn't just Republicans, this is everyone, I know you want to blame just Republicans but the facts don't fit your case.Of course it's waning.
When one party is in the thrall of an insecure sociopathic narcissist whose entire MO is to never admit defeat, even if he has to lie his head off and assault the institutions of the republic by claiming the election is rigged, why would anyone expect otherwise?
I know you have. That's why I find your claims that you want a more restrictive Constitution dubious, at best.I’ve been pretty consistent one this one. Good luck.
Me thinks you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.I don’t know how you keep getting this wrong.
A true democracy doesn’t vote for president. They don’t vote for anyone.
If you vote for people to represent you in government, you’re a republic.
The Republican numbers are virtually unchanged from January, the Independents have slipped by eight points and the Democrats have dropped 21 points. Why have the Democrat numbers slipped? So far you have had no real answer to why the Democrats confidence is down by quite a large number in just eight short months.Its primarily republicans who can't believe their cult leader has been denounced so loudly....
The problem they have is that
if you don't like what the news is telling you; you invent your own.
if you don't like what the medical community is telling you; you invent your own.
if you don't like what the history says about your past, you invent your own.
So far...
You can't just invent your own country.
Which is why there is almost a weekly conservative whack job here who wants to create their own country or threatening to murder anyone who they disagree with in this one.
Interesting link, but it shows two distinct things, at least to me. 1) A maj of gopers accept Trump's lie. No court bought it, and even his own AG told him he was being an idiot over a stolen election. 2) Dems are buying into the argument that restrictions enacted in red states suppress black/minority/poor votes and don't, as the gop claims, make elections more transparent. I'm not really sure that GA's law does this. Nor maybe Arizona's. But we'll see. I don't think Texas deserves any benefit of a doubt.Back in January 59% of Americans had confidence in the elections that elections reflected the will of the people. Today 52% of Americans: don't have confidence that our elections reflect the will of the people. To me that is quite the swing.
Analysis: The Big Lie is (unfortunately) winning
It is 100% true that Joe Biden won the 2020 election. And that Donald Trump lost it. Unfortunately, in recent months, the Big Lie -- that Trump somehow was defrauded out of the election -- has gained increasing amounts of traction, according to a new CNN poll.www.cnn.com
CNN Poll: Most Americans feel democracy is under attack in the US | CNN Politics
Most Americans feel democracy is under attack in this country (56%), according to a new CNN Poll conducted by SSRS, as 51% say it is likely that elected officials in the US will successfully overturn the results of a future election because their party did not win.www.cnn.com
Democrats and independents, though, are driving a drop in confidence that American elections reflect the will of the people. A narrow majority overall, 52%, now say they lack that confidence, up from 40% who felt that way in January. Among Democrats, confidence has dipped from 90% in January to 69% now, and among independents, it's fallen from 54% to 46% over that time, while Republican confidence has held about even and now stands at 24%.
My comment: The lack of confidence in the election process should concern us all as it seems our confidence in a 245 year old process is now not trusted by most Americans.
What can we do to stop this trend or is it too late?
Governor Abbot changed voting procedures in Texas without the Legislature. Guess what? The Republican Legislature sued him over it based on what you said, and lost.Not too many investigations into the fraud accusations in the 2020 election.
Having a governor change voting procedures without legislation IS a violation in itself, but.....
So you just go with your rhetoric.
Oddly, courts disagree with youYou can make all the excuses you want, Johnlaw. The Pa. governor DID NOT have the authority to change a voting law
without the legislative branch of that state.
Really? Were you asleep for the four years Democrats were fixated on the idea that Trump had cheated - that his Presidency was illegitimate - via Russian collusion? They simply couldn't accept that their leader (Clinton) had been denounced so loudly.
The Republican numbers are virtually unchanged from January, the Independents have slipped by eight points and the Democrats have dropped 21 points. Why have the Democrat numbers slipped? So far you have had no real answer to why the Democrats confidence is down by quite a large number in just eight short months.
Did Clinton Concede? Yes.
Was collusion proven? Yes.
This is the part where you make paranoid claims about everyone being against your blob.
Why can’t you just post something impartial? I find elections to be iffy too as they never ask for my ID. I am talking about town elections where one or two votes may make a significant difference. Everything is Trump with you. Do you blame your ED on Trump too?Republicans and Trumpists have lied so much about election and voter fraud that this was the inevitable outcome: lower confidence in the greatest and best electoral system in the world.
You know what you need to to do to raise the confidence level again:
Easy....
Republicans need to stop lying about election and voter fraud and cease and desist in undermining our democratic institutions.
I read your explanation.Me thinks you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
Go back and read that post, then read my post. I explained it to you.
No. no my explanation is spot on. Have a good day colfax. I can't fix what is wrong with you.I read your explanation.
It’s incorrect.
There’s this meme on the right about thumping chests about being a republic not a democracy. I think you’re getting this meme a little goofed up.
Your explanation is vague and what isn't vague is nonsense.No. no my explanation is spot on. Have a good day colfax. I can't fix what is wrong with you.
I don't think of it as "down." I think the 2020 election artificially elevated it and it's slowly returning to previous levels.Then why is it that Democrats confidence is down from 90% to 69%? I get the Republican side, I don't understand the Democrats and the Independents slide.
Sorry it doesn't fit your "democrats never accepted defeat" narrative.I'm not interested in hearing how "it's different when we do it".
There is little that is truly wrong with the way we elect Presidents. One thing that should be compacted is the "back office" stuff of having the electors meet 6 weeks after the election or whatever it is...then having the votes counted 3 weeks after that in Washington, then having 3 more weeks until the swearing in. But as for election security.... there were something like 8,000 elections on 11/3. President, House, Senate, Governors, State Legislatures, propositions, municipal races, judgeships, comptrollers, sheriffs.... There were at least 8,000 losers. Only one dork is complaining about election security...and has repeatedly. Never giving any proof.The point is, the insane partisanship and fear tactics are a problem with both parties, with our entire system. Trump was exceptionally egregious, but the problem isn't just him. It isn't just Republicans. Our system is fucked up.
Nothing. Let them die off. As long as there are enough gullible, willing marks out there, there will be a GOP official pouring lies in their ears for money and for votes. All we can do is make them pay at the ballot box.What can we do to stop this trend or is it too late?
Sorry do you know why Selma bridge incident happened?Make sure elections are conducted in an air tight manner. Every vote must be verified with a signature, photo i.d., and chain of custody. All vote counting must....at all times....be fully open to observers from both parties.
In other words, the exact opposite of the last election. If any of these criteria are violated the election is invalidated. Period.
Simple enough if people genuinely want to stop the cheating. But, of course, they don't.
