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If we had popular election for president, we'd still be a democratic republic.You're for mob rule....period. You're for a democracy and not a democrat republic. Not a sound way to
run a country as mob rule can create a runaway government. Our FF's knew of that consequence and tried to avoid it
by creating the democrat republic.
As for the gerrymandering, perhaps the democrats could figure out a way to win the governorship of some of those states.
No, you would have a democracy, ColfaxIf we had popular election for president, we'd still be a democratic republic.
Governorships don't result in less gerrymandering. It requires legislatures to pass laws against it. Those laws, surprisingly, are not being passed by gerrymandered legislatures who know they would lose their majority if they did so.
Well, let's not be coy - you mostly want those restrictions removed. Or, at the very least, you interpret the Constitution as much less restrictive than conservatives and libertarians.I see no advantages to our current system as opposed to what you guys call "mob rule" and it absolutely demonstrates disdain given you refer to the citizenry as a "mob" which is clearly a pejorative. For starters, there is no "unlimited majority rule". The constitution does still place limits on the actions of federal government.
Yeah. That doesn't concern me much. If the power of government is properly limited, it just doesn't matter whether the President is supported by 48% of the people as opposed to 52%.I think there's greater dangers on a party being able to control the government based on the support of a minority of the populace.
So then why did the Democrats numbers drop by 21 points? Are you saying Democrats now are not happy with the results of Biden winning after eight months.And that’s driven almost entirely by idiots who simply don’t like the results of the last election
^ 15 year sentenceVoter suppression laws.
Yup. Going forward, all Republicans should sit out every single election. That will teach the Democrats.Back in January 59% of Americans had confidence in the elections that elections reflected the will of the people. Today 52% of Americans: don't have confidence that our elections reflect the will of the people. To me that is quite the swing.
Analysis: The Big Lie is (unfortunately) winning
It is 100% true that Joe Biden won the 2020 election. And that Donald Trump lost it. Unfortunately, in recent months, the Big Lie -- that Trump somehow was defrauded out of the election -- has gained increasing amounts of traction, according to a new CNN poll.www.cnn.com
CNN Poll: Most Americans feel democracy is under attack in the US | CNN Politics
Most Americans feel democracy is under attack in this country (56%), according to a new CNN Poll conducted by SSRS, as 51% say it is likely that elected officials in the US will successfully overturn the results of a future election because their party did not win.www.cnn.com
Democrats and independents, though, are driving a drop in confidence that American elections reflect the will of the people. A narrow majority overall, 52%, now say they lack that confidence, up from 40% who felt that way in January. Among Democrats, confidence has dipped from 90% in January to 69% now, and among independents, it's fallen from 54% to 46% over that time, while Republican confidence has held about even and now stands at 24%.
My comment: The lack of confidence in the election process should concern us all as it seems our confidence in a 245 year old process is now not trusted by most Americans.
What can we do to stop this trend or is it too late?
I don't think Republicans should ever vote again. That'll show em!Back in January 59% of Americans had confidence in the elections that elections reflected the will of the people. Today 52% of Americans: don't have confidence that our elections reflect the will of the people. To me that is quite the swing.Analysis: The Big Lie is (unfortunately) winning
It is 100% true that Joe Biden won the 2020 election. And that Donald Trump lost it. Unfortunately, in recent months, the Big Lie -- that Trump somehow was defrauded out of the election -- has gained increasing amounts of traction, according to a new CNN poll.
CNN Poll: Most Americans feel democracy is under attack in the US | CNN Politics
Most Americans feel democracy is under attack in this country (56%), according to a new CNN Poll conducted by SSRS, as 51% say it is likely that elected officials in the US will successfully overturn the results of a future election because their party did not win.
Democrats and independents, though, are driving a drop in confidence that American elections reflect the will of the people. A narrow majority overall, 52%, now say they lack that confidence, up from 40% who felt that way in January. Among Democrats, confidence has dipped from 90% in January to 69% now, and among independents, it's fallen from 54% to 46% over that time, while Republican confidence has held about even and now stands at 24%.
My comment: The lack of confidence in the election process should concern us all as it seems our confidence in a 245 year old process is now not trusted by most Americans.
What can we do to stop this trend or is it too late?
I would rather have a representative republic, like the one we have. I'm just too, dang conservative for radical change, I guess.No, you would have a democracy, Colfax
Uh no. A democratic republic is where the public elect their leaders to represent them in government. That's still true with a popular vote for a president.No, you would have a democracy, Colfax
Reality is that we have had a new president for 9 months, and we know that's true because even those who claim fraud have been bashing him AS a president not doing a job to their standards. Cant have it both ways.
Not really. I think we need to strengthen restrictions, especially when it comes to police powers. The 4th amendment has been whittled down by the courts to the point that the police can basically exercise authority over you for almost any reason at all.Well, let's not be coy - you mostly want those restrictions removed. Or, at the very least, you interpret the Constitution as much less restrictive than conservatives and libertarians.
It's just not Republicans but I know you can't think beyond your left leaning bias.I don't think Republicans should ever vote again. That'll show em!
eh...beat me to it!Yup. Going forward, all Republicans should sit out every single election. That will teach the Democrats.
Thank you, now go back and think through what you posted.Uh no. A democratic republic is where the public elect their leaders to represent them in government. That's still true with a popular vote for a president.
A democracy, strictly speaking, is a government where the people vote on each matter before the government rather than having representatives do so.
It's just not Republicans but I know you can't think beyond your left leaning bias.
We'll revisit the next time you're arguing the opposite.Not really. I think we need to strengthen restrictions, especially when it comes to police powers. The 4th amendment has been whittled down by the courts to the point that the police can basically exercise authority over you for almost any reason at all.
I don’t know how you keep getting this wrong.Thank you, now go back and think through what you posted.
We ARE a democratic Republic. We don't elect a president, the electoral college does.
It's why the popular vote doesn't always elect a president
What you want is a democracy.
The guy with the most votes wins. period
I’ve been pretty consistent one this one. Good luck.We'll revisit the next time you're arguing the opposite.
Its primarily republicans who can't believe their cult leader has been denounced so loudly....
