It's difficult to be positive about the future when you have a corrupt authorian regime in place. Lies are nothing to base an economy on. And the corporate leaders in this country know that , the layoffs have just begun.
Consumer Confidence has dropped to a level not seen since 2014. It has dropped 24.2 points from Biden's Number
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"That's the media" giving you the Consumer Confidence number? The economy is actually surging? Data is not to be believed because it is biased but we do need to believe what 1 man (Trump) is telling us? That is your debate point?
Well, let me give you some facts:
The Conference Board Consumer Confidence Index (CCI) is calculated monthly by surveying 5,000 U.S. households on their views of current (40% weight) and future (60% weight) business, employment, and income conditions. Positive responses are divided by the sum of positive and negative responses to create a relative value, which is then indexed against a 1985 benchmark of 100.
Key Aspects of Calculation:
- Survey Questions (5):
- Current business conditions.
- Current employment conditions.
- Business conditions for the next six months.
- Employment conditions for the next six months.
- Total family income for the next six months.
- Methodology: Respondents answer "positive," "negative," or "neutral". The index focuses on the proportion of positive vs. negative, ignoring neutral.
So, let's do it.
I imagine that you would respond "positive" to all 5 questions (which I fully expect you to do. Your response would be biased, of course.
So are you telling me that this "supposedly" non-political survey is chosen by sending this survey only to Blue State households? If so, why would the survey be showing any positive responses?
In addition, this survey is sent every month, so are you saying that when it was positive they were sending the survey to red states but then changed to sending it to blue states? Oh, and by the way, this survey and the way it is done has been done for centuries. Are you then saying that the present administration of that particular president, was the one that chose who to send the surveys to? If so, why were the Obama years negative for 6 of the 8 years, if he was in charge of who to send the surveys to?
Or are you saying that the opposing party (who is not in control) is the one that decides who to send the surveys to?
As you can see by what I just said, there is no way either of these choices are occurring or have occurred in the past, meaning that it is real and tangible that American citizens are saying "things are getting worse, not better"!
Your post is total biased bullshit
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From YOUR linkBullshit
Consumer spending pushes U.S. economy up 4.4% in third quarter, fastest in two years
Powered by strong consumer spending, the U.S. economy grew at the fastest pace in two years from July through September, the government said Thursday in a slight upgrade of its first estimate.www.pbs.org
Despite the strong growth numbers, many Americans are dissatisfied with the state of the economy and especially the high cost of living.
The gap between how consumers say they feel and the strong spending numbers might reflect what is known as a " K-shaped economy." Wealthier Americans are spending more, their incomes boosted by market gains and growing investments, while lower-income households struggle with stagnant pay and high prices.
The job market also looks a lot weaker than the overall economy. Employers have added a lackluster 28,000 jobs a month since March. In the 2021-2023 hiring boom that followed COVID-19 lockdowns, by contrast, they were creating 400,000 jobs a month.
That wealthier Americans are spending more is certainly understandable, given that Trump is helping the wealthy and hurting the lower income people.
Are you wealthy? If so, then I can understand your post. If you are not wealthy, then your bullshit comment is garbage...................again, based on YOUR link!
trump was right about one thing , he said " Some are becoming very wealthy. " Yes that's correct the upper 1%. Trickle down never worked before , it's not work
Ing now. Greed and avarice /selfishness have taken over.
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It always works he middle class does better than the wealthy under Trump
I don't think you're going to get a lot of support for that fantasy.
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You posted a report on an opinion. The economy is thriving after the Biden disaster which you defend. Talk about BS
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Big, Beautiful Success Story: Middle Class Biggest Winner from Working Class Tax Cuts - Ways and Means
WASHINGTON, D.C. – Middle-class families will get an outsized share of the tax cuts from President Trump’s working families tax cut,...
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- Middle Class Gets Outsized Cut: The middle 20 percent of earners, will get 13 percent of the total tax cut while only currently paying 10 percent of all income tax. This means a $1,780 tax cut for every middle-income taxpayer from all of President Trump’s tax cuts.
- Working Families Get Outsized Cut: Taxpayers in the bottom 40 percent of earners will see their taxes cut by 15 percent. The lowest 20 percent of earners get the largest reduction in taxes of any income group.
- Top 1 Percent Will Pay a Larger Share: The working families tax cut increases the share of federal income taxes paid by the top 1 percent of taxpayers to nearly 35 percent.
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That is not what most of Americans think, no matter what you believe. FYI, your opinion means absolutely nothing in November. If the people continue to feel this way (and the pattern is presently heading lower), Trump will lose in November and perhaps be impeached before his term is over. That is what is tangible and counts.
Keep on ranting on but if you do not convince OTHERS (not me), you are spewing your own shit.
I like the third highlight. They should pay more , they were the only segment that gained in wealth up 7%. The middle class didn't gain anything or even lost by some accounts in wealth / income. Increases failed to keep u with inflation.Highlights:Big, Beautiful Success Story: Middle Class Biggest Winner from Working Class Tax Cuts - Ways and Means
WASHINGTON, D.C. – Middle-class families will get an outsized share of the tax cuts from President Trump’s working families tax cut,...
- Middle Class Gets Outsized Cut: The middle 20 percent of earners, will get 13 percent of the total tax cut while only currently paying 10 percent of all income tax. This means a $1,780 tax cut for every middle-income taxpayer from all of President Trump’s tax cuts.
- Working Families Get Outsized Cut: Taxpayers in the bottom 40 percent of earners will see their taxes cut by 15 percent. The lowest 20 percent of earners get the largest reduction in taxes of any income group.
- Top 1 Percent Will Pay a Larger Share: The working families tax cut increases the share of federal income taxes paid by the top 1 percent of taxpayers to nearly 35 percent.
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Stann steps on another rake.Highlights:Big, Beautiful Success Story: Middle Class Biggest Winner from Working Class Tax Cuts - Ways and Means
WASHINGTON, D.C. – Middle-class families will get an outsized share of the tax cuts from President Trump’s working families tax cut,...
- Middle Class Gets Outsized Cut: The middle 20 percent of earners, will get 13 percent of the total tax cut while only currently paying 10 percent of all income tax. This means a $1,780 tax cut for every middle-income taxpayer from all of President Trump’s tax cuts.
- Working Families Get Outsized Cut: Taxpayers in the bottom 40 percent of earners will see their taxes cut by 15 percent. The lowest 20 percent of earners get the largest reduction in taxes of any income group.
- Top 1 Percent Will Pay a Larger Share: The working families tax cut increases the share of federal income taxes paid by the top 1 percent of taxpayers to nearly 35 percent.
In your dreams.
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I don't have to dream it, I just witnessed it, Short Bus.
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Biden crushed the middle class did you complain or make excuses
Believe whatever you wish , see if it helps you in any way as time goes by. I'd wish you well but that would be bad for most Americans.
COVID did a number on US , Biden got it under control and during the Post-COVID Crisis he kept the country out of recession and left trump with a growing , healthy economy. Now trump is destroying all that.
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Covid deaths went up under Biden. It simply ran its course. Biden got everything wrong, the vaccine dies not stop the spread, shutting down the economy did not reduce the spread, shutting the schools was a mistake.
Biden left Trump a disaster of inflated prices, massive government spending, destructive energy policies, regulations hurting business, suppressed oil production, high gas costs, war in Ukraine and the Middle East, an Iran problem, and open birder illegals disaster we are dealing with today. BIden was an impaired demented disaster
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More Fauci flu deaths on Tater's watch.
Every economic matrix is better now than when Tater left office.
You see things through trumps' lies. Can't help you. Wasted enough time on you. Try to have a nice day if it's possible for you. I plan on it. Later !
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OP is a common lie tactic the left employ, where they give a piece of info. to sell narration without providing content and context...They employ it almost every story edging all of them, fact checks too.
The great portion of the slide in consumer confidence occurred in 2024... a lessor dump when Trump became potus. See link...
Ask yourself how many libs would have a positive pitch on it, being they're cowards to just lazy and ignorant. Surely u know tds more than that, **** democrat Ice ok, Trump ice end of days. No democrat will say we're going in the right directions, what do polls even mean besides their favorite cigar or in a lib case a penis color
I think its neat how the libs get the money and real estate but oh no.......personally I'm fine, small time penny pinch say, my kids should be good. The reality is don't matter who potus, America is for sale led by California as the flagship to foreigners, there are a ton of people, taxes high, have to cover public debt too...while the masses will continue to lose spending power, somebody is willing to pay for it. Things got fucked up bad with covid, it's not going away so much.
Lucky me I have no needs, **** ill never replace my driver truck, sub outback good another 6 years before I buy another newish one. That's right, this conservative drives an outback for many miles use...my brother says it screams, look I'm a lesbian or tree hugger
Can fit an 8 ft ladder, wheel barrel, and bunch of tools,, sometimes I need that stuff when on the road, and tons of storage underneath the back. Plus a German Shepherd takes it up most use. Convenient as ****, todays station wagon and good gas too, nevermind for sierras
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The great portion of the slide in consumer confidence occurred in 2024... a lessor dump when Trump became potus. See link...
Ask yourself how many libs would have a positive pitch on it, being they're cowards to just lazy and ignorant. Surely u know tds more than that, **** democrat Ice ok, Trump ice end of days. No democrat will say we're going in the right directions, what do polls even mean besides their favorite cigar or in a lib case a penis color
I think its neat how the libs get the money and real estate but oh no.......personally I'm fine, small time penny pinch say, my kids should be good. The reality is don't matter who potus, America is for sale led by California as the flagship to foreigners, there are a ton of people, taxes high, have to cover public debt too...while the masses will continue to lose spending power, somebody is willing to pay for it. Things got fucked up bad with covid, it's not going away so much.
Lucky me I have no needs, **** ill never replace my driver truck, sub outback good another 6 years before I buy another newish one. That's right, this conservative drives an outback for many miles use...my brother says it screams, look I'm a lesbian or tree hugger
Can fit an 8 ft ladder, wheel barrel, and bunch of tools,, sometimes I need that stuff when on the road, and tons of storage underneath the back. Plus a German Shepherd takes it up most use. Convenient as ****, todays station wagon and good gas too, nevermind for sierras
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