Civil Liberties Group Publishes Over 300K Police Complaint Records After Court Order Lifted

[Biff_Poindexter]

NYCLU Publishes Over 300K Police Misconduct Records After Court Order Lifted

"The release of this database is an important step towards greater transparency and accountability and is just the beginning of unraveling the monopoly the NYPD holds on public information and officer discipline."

gothamist.com

Hundreds of thousands of misconduct complaints against NYPD officers have been released today in a database that was tied up in a legal battle between police unions and the City over what types of complaints should be made public. "History has shown the NYPD is unwilling to police itself," Dunn said. "The release of this database is an important step towards greater transparency and accountability and is just the beginning of unraveling the monopoly the NYPD holds on public information and officer discipline."

Basically New York state lawmakers repealed a section of the law that shielded certain police misconduct records from the public; one side claims that this will help improve transparency and accountability -- but police unions believe that such a database would damage officers' reputations and safety by releasing unsubstantiated police misconduct claims.

I agree with the police unions on this -- so why not just have a database that shows only the substantiated claims instead...as they say, sunlight is the best disinfectant.

 

[toomuchtime_]

NYCLU Publishes Over 300K Police Misconduct Records After Court Order Lifted

"The release of this database is an important step towards greater transparency and accountability and is just the beginning of unraveling the monopoly the NYPD holds on public information and officer discipline."

gothamist.com

Hundreds of thousands of misconduct complaints against NYPD officers have been released today in a database that was tied up in a legal battle between police unions and the City over what types of complaints should be made public. "History has shown the NYPD is unwilling to police itself," Dunn said. "The release of this database is an important step towards greater transparency and accountability and is just the beginning of unraveling the monopoly the NYPD holds on public information and officer discipline."

Basically New York state lawmakers repealed a section of the law that shielded certain police misconduct records from the public; one side claims that this will help improve transparency and accountability -- but police unions believe that such a database would damage officers' reputations and safety by releasing unsubstantiated police misconduct claims.

I agree with the police unions on this -- so why not just have a database that shows only the substantiated claims instead...as they say, sunlight is the best disinfectant.

What do you mean by substantiated? Isn't that what happens now? If you file complaint against a police officer it is investigated by the police and the district attorney's office as well and the AG, and if it might involve civil rights violations by the DoJ as well. If any of these finds illegal actions by a cop, charges are brought and at that time it becomes public information. How would a database improve on this?

 

[MisterBeale]

NYCLU Publishes Over 300K Police Misconduct Records After Court Order Lifted

"The release of this database is an important step towards greater transparency and accountability and is just the beginning of unraveling the monopoly the NYPD holds on public information and officer discipline."

gothamist.com

Hundreds of thousands of misconduct complaints against NYPD officers have been released today in a database that was tied up in a legal battle between police unions and the City over what types of complaints should be made public. "History has shown the NYPD is unwilling to police itself," Dunn said. "The release of this database is an important step towards greater transparency and accountability and is just the beginning of unraveling the monopoly the NYPD holds on public information and officer discipline."

Basically New York state lawmakers repealed a section of the law that shielded certain police misconduct records from the public; one side claims that this will help improve transparency and accountability -- but police unions believe that such a database would damage officers' reputations and safety by releasing unsubstantiated police misconduct claims.

I agree with the police unions on this -- so why not just have a database that shows only the substantiated claims instead...as they say, sunlight is the best disinfectant.

What do you mean by substantiated? Isn't that what happens now? If you file complaint against a police officer it is investigated by the police and the district attorney's office as well and the AG, and if it might involve civil rights violations by the DoJ as well. If any of these finds illegal actions by a cop, charges are brought and at that time it becomes public information. How would a database improve on this?

It's complicated.

The substantiated and unsubstantiated claims are all mixed up on the same database, and the folks in charge? Have a vested interest in not releasing that data. . . . in either direction. Interestingly enough, it included body-cam data.

"Until now, the police accountability process has been at the discretion of the NYPD, which determines which CCRB investigations result in discipline and what information is revealed from that process," the NYCLU's legal director Christopher Dunn said in a statement.

Last month, the city was expected to roll out its own database of NYPD records after state lawmakers repealed New York Civil Rights Law section 50-A, which shielded certain police misconduct records from the public. But a state judge blocked that request after unions sued to stop the release and force the decision to be heard in federal court. As that case was being heard, a federal judge blocked the NYCLU from releasing the CCRB misconduct records, which the NYCLU obtained through a Freedom of Information Law request. The NYCLU argued the order violated First Amendment rights. (The NYCLU was not named in the unions' lawsuit against the city).

During a virtual hearing on Tuesday, lawyers for the unions accused the CCRB of engaging in an "unlawful scheme" to distribute the police misconduct records under the 50-A repeal.

But the panel of appellate court judges was skeptical.

"Where is the concern?" Judge Rosemary Pooler, presiding over the case, asked during the hearing. "You imply that there's something really malevolent of CCRB responding to this perfectly legitimate request for public information."

On Thursday, the U.S. Court of Appeals Second Circuit lifted the order, allowing the NYCLU to proceed with publishing the database.

"History has shown the NYPD is unwilling to police itself," Dunn said. "The release of this database is an important step towards greater transparency and accountability and is just the beginning of unraveling the monopoly the NYPD holds on public information and officer discipline."

The NYCLU database follows the publication of a smaller dataset of complaints against NYPD officers with at least one substantiated CCRB complaint that was released by ProPublica. That data revealed that one in nine NYPD officers have a confirmed record of misconduct—meaning, at least one substantiated complaint was filed against an officer.

About half of the CCRB's cases between 2010 and 2019 resulted in the complaint being "unsubstantiated." CCRB investigators are often burdened with handling some 30 cases at the same time, and the NYPD has made it "untenable" for investigators to access body-worn camera footage, according to an internal memo written by top investigators. .

The unions have argued that unsubstantiated complaints, which NYCLU's database also includes, would damage officers' reputations and safety.. . . "

NYCLU Publishes Over 300K Police Misconduct Records After Court Order Lifted

"The release of this database is an important step towards greater transparency and accountability and is just the beginning of unraveling the monopoly the NYPD holds on public information and officer discipline."

gothamist.com

 

[toomuchtime_]

NYCLU Publishes Over 300K Police Misconduct Records After Court Order Lifted

"The release of this database is an important step towards greater transparency and accountability and is just the beginning of unraveling the monopoly the NYPD holds on public information and officer discipline."

gothamist.com

Hundreds of thousands of misconduct complaints against NYPD officers have been released today in a database that was tied up in a legal battle between police unions and the City over what types of complaints should be made public. "History has shown the NYPD is unwilling to police itself," Dunn said. "The release of this database is an important step towards greater transparency and accountability and is just the beginning of unraveling the monopoly the NYPD holds on public information and officer discipline."

Basically New York state lawmakers repealed a section of the law that shielded certain police misconduct records from the public; one side claims that this will help improve transparency and accountability -- but police unions believe that such a database would damage officers' reputations and safety by releasing unsubstantiated police misconduct claims.

I agree with the police unions on this -- so why not just have a database that shows only the substantiated claims instead...as they say, sunlight is the best disinfectant.

What do you mean by substantiated? Isn't that what happens now? If you file complaint against a police officer it is investigated by the police and the district attorney's office as well and the AG, and if it might involve civil rights violations by the DoJ as well. If any of these finds illegal actions by a cop, charges are brought and at that time it becomes public information. How would a database improve on this?

It's complicated.

The substantiated and unsubstantiated claims are all mixed up on the same database, and the folks in charge? Have a vested interest in not releasing that data. . . . in either direction. Interestingly enough, it included body-cam data.

"Until now, the police accountability process has been at the discretion of the NYPD, which determines which CCRB investigations result in discipline and what information is revealed from that process," the NYCLU's legal director Christopher Dunn said in a statement.

Last month, the city was expected to roll out its own database of NYPD records after state lawmakers repealed New York Civil Rights Law section 50-A, which shielded certain police misconduct records from the public. But a state judge blocked that request after unions sued to stop the release and force the decision to be heard in federal court. As that case was being heard, a federal judge blocked the NYCLU from releasing the CCRB misconduct records, which the NYCLU obtained through a Freedom of Information Law request. The NYCLU argued the order violated First Amendment rights. (The NYCLU was not named in the unions' lawsuit against the city).

During a virtual hearing on Tuesday, lawyers for the unions accused the CCRB of engaging in an "unlawful scheme" to distribute the police misconduct records under the 50-A repeal.

But the panel of appellate court judges was skeptical.

"Where is the concern?" Judge Rosemary Pooler, presiding over the case, asked during the hearing. "You imply that there's something really malevolent of CCRB responding to this perfectly legitimate request for public information."

On Thursday, the U.S. Court of Appeals Second Circuit lifted the order, allowing the NYCLU to proceed with publishing the database.

"History has shown the NYPD is unwilling to police itself," Dunn said. "The release of this database is an important step towards greater transparency and accountability and is just the beginning of unraveling the monopoly the NYPD holds on public information and officer discipline."

The NYCLU database follows the publication of a smaller dataset of complaints against NYPD officers with at least one substantiated CCRB complaint that was released by ProPublica. That data revealed that one in nine NYPD officers have a confirmed record of misconduct—meaning, at least one substantiated complaint was filed against an officer.

About half of the CCRB's cases between 2010 and 2019 resulted in the complaint being "unsubstantiated." CCRB investigators are often burdened with handling some 30 cases at the same time, and the NYPD has made it "untenable" for investigators to access body-worn camera footage, according to an internal memo written by top investigators. .

The unions have argued that unsubstantiated complaints, which NYCLU's database also includes, would damage officers' reputations and safety.. . . "

NYCLU Publishes Over 300K Police Misconduct Records After Court Order Lifted

"The release of this database is an important step towards greater transparency and accountability and is just the beginning of unraveling the monopoly the NYPD holds on public information and officer discipline."

gothamist.com

The fact is only a tiny percent of complaints are found by the police, the district attorney's office or the DoJ to have merit, so a database of all complaints will be mostly filled with complaints that have no merit. Who would this benefit? Only people campaigning to defund the police or unscrupulous lawyers looking for quick settlements to bogus lawsuits.

 

[B. Kidd]

Most criminals complain that they're innocent. Especially the ones in jails/prisons. It's part of their lying DNA!

Hence the term 'jailhouse lawyer', which normally is another prisoner that can read and has access to the prison library.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

What do you mean by substantiated? Isn't that what happens now? If you file complaint against a police officer it is investigated by the police and the district attorney's office as well and the AG, and if it might involve civil rights violations by the DoJ as well. If any of these finds illegal actions by a cop, charges are brought and at that time it becomes public information. How would a database improve on this?

What do you have against government transparency?

 

[toomuchtime_]

What do you mean by substantiated? Isn't that what happens now? If you file complaint against a police officer it is investigated by the police and the district attorney's office as well and the AG, and if it might involve civil rights violations by the DoJ as well. If any of these finds illegal actions by a cop, charges are brought and at that time it becomes public information. How would a database improve on this?

What do you have against government transparency?

I have nothing against government transparency but I am opposed to slandering cops by giving legitimacy to false claims of police brutality. The courts have found that only a tiny percentage of these complaints have merit, so why do you want to slander cops?

 

[Norman]

Defund the police!

 

[harmonica]

......black man complains he was pulled over ---HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAh

 

[Correll]

NYCLU Publishes Over 300K Police Misconduct Records After Court Order Lifted

"The release of this database is an important step towards greater transparency and accountability and is just the beginning of unraveling the monopoly the NYPD holds on public information and officer discipline."

gothamist.com

Hundreds of thousands of misconduct complaints against NYPD officers have been released today in a database that was tied up in a legal battle between police unions and the City over what types of complaints should be made public. "History has shown the NYPD is unwilling to police itself," Dunn said. "The release of this database is an important step towards greater transparency and accountability and is just the beginning of unraveling the monopoly the NYPD holds on public information and officer discipline."

Basically New York state lawmakers repealed a section of the law that shielded certain police misconduct records from the public; one side claims that this will help improve transparency and accountability -- but police unions believe that such a database would damage officers' reputations and safety by releasing unsubstantiated police misconduct claims.

I agree with the police unions on this -- so why not just have a database that shows only the substantiated claims instead...as they say, sunlight is the best disinfectant.

Will the database have the information on the person making the complaint, so that if it is just a slime ball talking shit, the world can see that?

 

[harmonica]

NYCLU Publishes Over 300K Police Misconduct Records After Court Order Lifted

"The release of this database is an important step towards greater transparency and accountability and is just the beginning of unraveling the monopoly the NYPD holds on public information and officer discipline."

gothamist.com

Hundreds of thousands of misconduct complaints against NYPD officers have been released today in a database that was tied up in a legal battle between police unions and the City over what types of complaints should be made public. "History has shown the NYPD is unwilling to police itself," Dunn said. "The release of this database is an important step towards greater transparency and accountability and is just the beginning of unraveling the monopoly the NYPD holds on public information and officer discipline."

Basically New York state lawmakers repealed a section of the law that shielded certain police misconduct records from the public; one side claims that this will help improve transparency and accountability -- but police unions believe that such a database would damage officers' reputations and safety by releasing unsubstantiated police misconduct claims.

I agree with the police unions on this -- so why not just have a database that shows only the substantiated claims instead...as they say, sunlight is the best disinfectant.

hahahhahahahhahah
substantiated CLAIM!!!!!!!

here's the definition of claim:
state or assert that something is the case, typically without providing evidence or proof.

ever read the Ferguson Report?? the details?? blacks COMPLAINED police abuse----one complained that the cop wrote him up for violating an ordinance ===get it?????:!! the black WAS violating an ordinance !!!!!!!

..most of that shit is like the WHITE cop shoots unarmed black man crap = crap

 

[harmonica]

.......most people think the police act correctly--most criminals/blacks who LOVE criminals do not:
'''''''During 2011, the majority of persons who requested assistance from the police for any reason felt the responding officers acted properly (93%) and were helpful (86%)'''''''
this is 2011, but I can't find anything more recent

....OF COURSE when a black commits a crime and gets arrested/etc they will complain --DUH!!!!

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rpa11.pdf

 

[Gdjjr]

Why Won’t Cops Wear Masks?
In New York City, widespread use of masks is keeping COVID-19 numbers low — but the cops don’t seem be onboard

Although official NYPD policy is that officers should wear face coverings, in the past it has been dismissive of critiques of its officers foregoing masks. “With everything New York City has been through in the past two weeks and everything we are working toward together, we can put our energy to a better use,” Sgt. Jessica McRorie said in a statement.

IOW, good for thee, not for me.