Zone1 Christendom's Trinity - Where Did It Come From?

[Alter2Ego]

ding:

It's not my problem that you can't cope with being debunked. None of your cherry-picked verses support Christendom's 3-in-1 god.


Alter2Ego

I'm happy with the record. Your opinion is shared with a tiny number of people. Mine is shared by billions.

ding:

I informed you where the word godhead came from and that it showed up in an English translation over 1,500 years after the Bible was written by God's inspiration. That's not my opinion. That's a fact that you're running from. Below is a quotation and weblinks from sources explaining how "godhede" became "godhead" and ended up in the Bible centuries after it was written.



"The ending "-head", is not connected with the word "head". John Wycliffe introduced the term godhed into English Bible versions in two places, and, though somewhat archaic, the term survives in modern English because of its use in three places of the Tyndale New Testament (1525) and into the Authorized King James Version of the Bible (1611). In that translation, the word was used to translate three different Greek words:

Godhead meaning

"John Wycliffe introduced the term godhede into English Bible versions in two places, and, though somewhat archaic, the term survives in modern English because of its use in three places of the Tyndale New Testament(1525), the Geneva Bible(1560/1599), and King James Version(1611). In that translation, the word was used to translate three different Koine Greek words:

https://tr-ex.me/translation/english-malay/english+bible

I also gave you a webilink showing that 1 John 5:7 is a fabrication that seens to appear only in the King James Version--a notoriously trinitarian Bible translation. Other Bibles (which are also trinitarian translations) avoid using the fabricated text. In addition, I asked you pointed questions that you dodged. Those are not opinions, those are facts.


Alter2Ego

 

[Alter2Ego]

I'm happy with the record. Your opinion is shared with a tiny number of people. Mine is shared by billions.

ding:

You used the worst possible reason to proclaim victory. Notice what Jesus himself said regarding the majority of people.

Matthew 7:13​

“Go in through the narrow gate, because broad is the gate and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are going in through it;

Matthew 7:14​

whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are finding it.


Alter2Ego

 

[ding]

ding:

I informed you where the word godhead came from and that it showed up in an English translation over 1,500 years after the Bible was written by God's inspiration. That's not my opinion. That's a fact that you're running from. Below is a quotation and weblinks from sources explaining how "godhede" became "godhead" and ended up in the Bible centuries after it was written.



"The ending "-head", is not connected with the word "head". John Wycliffe introduced the term godhed into English Bible versions in two places, and, though somewhat archaic, the term survives in modern English because of its use in three places of the Tyndale New Testament (1525) and into the Authorized King James Version of the Bible (1611). In that translation, the word was used to translate three different Greek words:

Godhead meaning

"John Wycliffe introduced the term godhede into English Bible versions in two places, and, though somewhat archaic, the term survives in modern English because of its use in three places of the Tyndale New Testament(1525), the Geneva Bible(1560/1599), and King James Version(1611). In that translation, the word was used to translate three different Koine Greek words:

https://tr-ex.me/translation/english-malay/english+bible

I also gave you a webilink showing that 1 John 5:7 is a fabrication that seens to appear only in the King James Version--a notoriously trinitarian Bible translation. Other Bibles (which are also trinitarian translations) avoid using the fabricated text. In addition, I asked you pointed questions that you dodged. Those are not opinions, those are facts.


Alter2Ego

That's nice. And I provided the scriptural basis which you summarily dismissed. That's on you.

 

[ding]

ding:

You used the worst possible reason to proclaim victory. Notice what Jesus himself said regarding the majority of people.

Matthew 7:13​

“Go in through the narrow gate, because broad is the gate and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are going in through it;

Matthew 7:14​

whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are finding it.


Alter2Ego

I think you need to face the fact that the over 2 billion Christians who disagree with your beliefs don't care about the opposing beliefs of a tiny, insignificant sect.

 

[ding]

You used the worst possible reason to proclaim victory.

I think:

1 John 5:7
John 1:1-18
Matthew 3:16-17
Matthew 28:19

Are great reasons to say... #winning.

 

[Alter2Ego]

I think:

1 John 5:7
John 1:1-18
Matthew 3:16-17
Matthew 28:19

Are great reasons to say... #winning.

ding:

Repeating yourself with the same debunked, cherry-picked, out-of-context scriptures -- two of which contain words that numerous sources say are fabricated words -- is a clear sign of desperation.

You can no longer make the excuse that you didn't know. I gave you weblinks to the sources. So you are deliberately being disobedient to Almighty God Jehovah.

Do better.


Alter2Ego

 

[ding]

ding:

Repeating yourself with the same debunked, cherry-picked, out-of-context scriptures -- two of which contain words that numerous sources say are fabricated words -- is a clear sign of desperation.

You can no longer make the excuse that you didn't know. I gave you weblinks to the sources. So you are deliberately being disobedient to Almighty God Jehovah.

Do better.


Alter2Ego

Like I said, it hasn't been debunked. You are the opinion of a very tiny minority. Your opinions are insignificant.

 

[Alter2Ego]

Like I said, it hasn't been debunked. You are the opinion of a very tiny minority. Your opinions are insignificant.

ding:

Of course trinity has been debunked. And you know it. But pride won't let you admit your error. That's why you refuse to be corrected by scripture.

2 Timothy 3:16​

"All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness,"

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It's clear to all those reading this thread that you will continue worshipping a 3-in-1 god that doesn't exist.


Alter2Ego

 

[ding]

ding:

Of course trinity has been debunked. And you know it. But pride won't let you admit your error. That's why you refuse to be corrected by scripture.

2 Timothy 3:16​

"All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness,"

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It's clear to all those reading this thread that you will continue worshipping a 3-in-1 god that doesn't exist.


Alter2Ego

1 John 5:7
John 1:1-18
Matthew 3:16-17
Matthew 28:19

Say otherwise.

 

[ding]

Cougarbear:

Nowhere in the Judeo-Christian Bible does it say "the beginning of creation of the universe."

Not only does John 1:1 (at Clause #1) state that the Word (Jesus, the Son) had a beginning, Clause #1 of John 1:1 says in no uncertain terms that creation began with Jesus aka the Word. In other words, Jesus was the beginning of creation. He was the first thing that Jehovah created.

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."



Alter2Ego

How old do you believe the earth is?

 

[ding]

I am a Christian

Are you? Because I don't believe you are.

 

[ding]

The reason why atheists argue so vehemently for evolution and Big Bang theories is because it gives them a convenient substitute for an intelligent Designer/God.

I'm not an atheist and I believe in evolution and the big bang. And neither of those beliefs negates the existence of God. Rather they glorify God's power more than a literal reading of the creation account which was never intended to be read literally.

 

[kjw47]

So you admit you are not Christian. The only other possibility is Devil worshipping.

Your heart=Jeremiah 17:9--I said no such thing as in your delusion of a post.

 

[Cougarbear]

Your heart=Jeremiah 17:9--I said no such thing as in your delusion of a post.

Everything you say says you aren't Christian or a follower of Jesus Christ. Deceived by the smooth things spoken and taught by your scholars who aren't scholars of truth lest the world would have ended by now.

 

[kjw47]

Everything you say says you aren't Christian or a follower of Jesus Christ. Deceived by the smooth things spoken and taught by your scholars who aren't scholars of truth lest the world would have ended by now.

Jesus = Matt 6:33-Keep on seeking- FIRST- the kingdom and his( YHVH(Jehovah) righteousness and all these things will be added( sustenance, covering, spirituality)
Jesus = John 17:1-6,26--Verse 3 to get eternal life one must know the one who sent him= Father as THE ONLY TRUE GOD and know Jesus as well-Verse 6= YHVH(Jehovah) verse 26= YHVH(Jehovah)

Tell us how many days in your life have you sought Jehovah's righteousness first? Because EVERY true follower on the planet Earth does so daily without fail. Otherwise they cannot do this-John 4:22-24 which Jesus teaches the true followers do.

 

[Cougarbear]

Jesus = Matt 6:33-Keep on seeking- FIRST- the kingdom and his( YHVH(Jehovah) righteousness and all these things will be added( sustenance, covering, spirituality)
Jesus = John 17:1-6,26--Verse 3 to get eternal life one must know the one who sent him= Father as THE ONLY TRUE GOD and know Jesus as well-Verse 6= YHVH(Jehovah) verse 26= YHVH(Jehovah)

Tell us how many days in your life have you sought Jehovah's righteousness first? Because EVERY true follower on the planet Earth does so daily without fail. Otherwise they cannot do this-John 4:22-24 which Jesus teaches the true followers do.

Jehovah is Jesus and I pray to the Father in the name of His Son, Jesus Christ, who is Jehovah. You pray to a non-existent God and have no authority to teach or preach in God’s name. His Church are founded upon apostles and prophets and you, like the RCC and all Protestant churches have none. You therefore lack the authority and have no keys to the kingdom. You therefore cannot sit in judgment of me.

 

[kjw47]

Jehovah is Jesus and I pray to the Father in the name of His Son, Jesus Christ, who is Jehovah. You pray to a non-existent God and have no authority to teach or preach in God’s name. His Church are founded upon apostles and prophets and you, like the RCC and all Protestant churches have none. You therefore lack the authority and have no keys to the kingdom. You therefore cannot sit in judgment of me.

How the mislead are decieved-2Cor 11:12-15-- so how many more will you mislead?

 

[Cougarbear]

How the mislead are decieved-2Cor 11:12-15-- so how many more will you mislead?

With no authority you are misleading everyone. You were unable to defend my truth about authority and apostles and prophets. You even claim the boneheads who started your church aren’t prophets. No kidding! Not even average scholars too.

 

[kjw47]

With no authority you are misleading everyone. You were unable to defend my truth about authority and apostles and prophets. You even claim the boneheads who started your church aren’t prophets. No kidding! Not even average scholars too.

John Lennon saw many words like yours--Words are flying out into a paper cup they slither while they pass they slip away across the universe. You listen to-2Cor 11:12-15 misleading all who believe your words to destruction.

 

[Cougarbear]

John Lennon saw many words like yours--Words are flying out into a paper cup they slither while they pass they slip away across the universe. You listen to-2Cor 11:12-15 misleading all who believe your words to destruction.

So, John Lennon is your latest god you follow? What authority does he have? Was he an apostle or prophet for Father in Heaven? With no authority you are misleading everyone. You were unable to defend my truth about authority and apostles and prophets. You even claim the boneheads who started your church aren’t prophets. No kidding! Not even average scholars too.