Chinese State Run Media says China Ready to use Force Against US.

[westwall]

It won't be profitable for the business elites that own the world if there's war between China and the United States. That's why I think it's very unlikely.

China cares about china. That is a lesson the globalists never learned.

 

[eagle1462010]

Taiwan Relations Act (United States Code Title 22 Chapter 48 Sections 3301 - 3316)

www.taiwandocuments.org

It is the policy of the United States -

• (1) to preserve and promote extensive, close, and friendly commercial, cultural, and other relations between the people of the United States and the people on Taiwan, as well as the people on the China mainland and all other peoples of the Western Pacific area;
• (2) to declare that peace and stability in the area are in the political, security, and economic interests of the United States, and are matters of international concern;
• (3) to make clear that the United States decision to establish diplomatic relations with the People's Republic of China rests upon the expectation that the future of Taiwan will be determined by peaceful means;
• (4) to consider any effort to determine the future of Taiwan by other than peaceful means, including by boycotts or embargoes, a threat to the peace and security of the Western Pacific area and of grave concern to the United States;
• (5) to provide Taiwan with arms of a defensive character; and
• (6) to maintain the capacity of the United States to resist any resort to force or other forms of coercion that would jeopardize the security, or the social or economic system, of the people on Taiwan.

 

[Anomalism]

China cares about china. That is a lesson the globalists never learned.

There is no realistic scenario in which it would benefit China to go to war with us.

 

[westwall]

Why? What indications, anywhere, make you bleev they have designs on anything other than Chinese sphere of influence?

History for one. Whenever a Marcher State is allowed to get started, it dorsn't stop.

You should read some someday. Especially as regards china.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Chinese state-run media says Beijing ready to use force against US

A Chinese state-run media outlet has warned Washington that Beijing will not hesitate to strike US forces should they try to prevent China’s reunification with Taiwan, as promised recently by a top American official.

www.rt.com

This thread relates to US interference, or allegations of interference in Taiwan and so isn't being discussed elsewhere.
I interpret as a strong statement from China that was predictable.
Both America and China will likely have an opportunity to demonstrate their resolve.

I would only suggest that the decisions are most likely above Biden's ability and his pay grade, so to speak.

Both sides have reached the pinnacle of Cold War rhetoric that is equal to that of the previous Cold War.

Democrat weakness and failure... way to go you libtard morons...

 

[Donald H]

Military conflict with China could and likely would fuck the entire world up. If preventing that means abandoning Taiwan then so be it.

Is Taiwan worth it? There are two sides to the story.

1. America letting go would be a huge loss to it's image of hard resolve that would be as damagine as walking away from the Vietnam war.
2. Taiwan is well within China's sphere of influence and the US walkig away could be easily rationalized.

In time it's quite likely that S.K. will pose the same question for America. In return America may harden it's resolve in Central and South America.

 

[MisterBeale]

The "Six Assurances" to Taiwan

www.taiwandocuments.org

1. The United States would not set a date for termination of arms sales to Taiwan.

2. The United States would not alter the terms of the Taiwan Relations Act.

3. The United States would not consult with China in advance before making decisions about U.S. arms sales to Taiwan.

4. The United States would not mediate between Taiwan and China.

5. The United States would not alter its position about the sovereignty of Taiwan which was, that the question was one to be decided peacefully by the Chinese themselves, and would not pressure Taiwan to enter into negotiations with China.

6. The United States would not formally recognize Chinese sovereignty over Taiwan.

No where in there does it state we need to go to war, invest blood or treasure to insure that Taiwan remain free of Chinese rule.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I see China's next move as appealing to the people of Taiwan on unification. Digging a bit below the surface should tell one that that isn't a settled question.

China has tried that for 50 years, and during the 90's it worked.

After the attack by the CCP on Hong Kong, the support for China in Taiwan is at historic lows.

Some parallel to the question in the Crimea is perhaps likely.

In any case, the rest of the world's opinion will be the most important deciding factor on which side is on the side of right.

Nonsense, the chatter among the Euroweenies is utterly irrelevant.

Unless Quid Pro surrenders outright, which he might, China would face the USA, South Korea, and Japan if they moved on Taiwan.

In 1977 Jimmy Carter told of the VAST military superiority of the USSR and tried to get America to surrender to the Soviets. He failed, though he did give them deep water ports and a beach head on the North American Continent in Nicaragua.

The pro-Soviet propaganda Carter used were satellite pictures of Soviet tanks in East Germany. Carter and the democrats demanded that the USA could in no way match such a force and we had no choice but to cave to all Soviet demands or face utter destruction.

We now know that the "tanks" were crude tin foil props constructed as a terracotta army.


China is much the same. The entire Chinese military is based on technology stolen from America. This means we know all the weaknesses. And like the soviets, the Chinese inflate the number of weapons platforms by a factor of dozens.

That could invite an objective analysis here, as opposed to nearly everybody trying to fight an armchair war.

Objectively, China is a paper tiger. They can't even hold their own against India.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Military conflict with China could and likely would fuck the entire world up. If preventing that means abandoning Taiwan then so be it.

So, peace in our time then?

 

[Donald H]

And the Taiwanese people will look at the conduct of China's government in Hong Kong, and say "go screw yourselves". The leaders of the PRC threw away any pretense of being a civilized, law abiding government when they threw out the agreement on Homg Kong's special treatment.

You've avoided the question on the loyalty of the people of Taiwan. It's at issue but it requires some careful analysis, without any built in bias.

 

[iceberg]

Then you can pay for it and you can send your kids over to die for them.

Of course, you won't, you neocons always leave that duty to everyone else.

well hoping people are nice seldom works.

 

[AMart]

China cares about china. That is a lesson the globalists never learned.

They see themselves as the center of the universe in the middle of everything and superior to all.

 

[1srelluc]

Meh, purchase/dismantle Taiwan's chip industry, send it and it's best and brightest here if they want to immigrate, set the industry back up.....Profit.

 

[eagle1462010]

No where in there does it state we need to go to war, invest blood or treasure to insure that Taiwan remain free of Chinese rule.

It sure as hell implies it. I don't want War anymore than you do but we can't allow them to do this. Because they will just be emboldened to do more. The Taiwan Strait is a KEY Seaway for the region that must be maintained. Allowing China to take Taiwan would be a threat to that Sea Lane and the Phillipines which we have a Pact with if they are attacked.

It's not just us on this. It's Taiwan, Phillipines, Vietnam, South Korea, and Japan. All are ticked at China.

Best thing we could do now would to get all those together and sign a pact against China such as NATO in Europe.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Fair enough.

But? You are ignoring how they got the tech to do that in the first place. Sometimes I really wonder about your critical thinking. I honestly do.



Clinton Approves Technology Transfer to China

Clinton Approves Technology Transfer to China - New York Times

The Clinton Administration notified Congress today that it had approved the export of technology to China to permit the launching of a communications satellite aboard a Chinese rocket next

web.archive.org

Insults aside, I in no way defended the treason by Clinton or Biden (or McConnell) that has led to China stealing American tech.

 

[westwall]

There is no realistic scenario in which it would benefit China to go to war with us.

Sure there is. The destruction of the west which leads to chinese domination of the globe.

Duh.

 

[Uncensored2008]

It won't be profitable for the business elites that own the world if there's war between China and the United States. That's why I think it's very unlikely.

It wasn't profitable for business elites for China to overthrow Hong Kong - particularly not through the use of Biological weapons - yet here we are.

 

[Anomalism]

chinese domination of the globe.

They won't need to go to war with us to achieve that. They're playing the long game.

 

[Donald H]

China has tried that for 50 years, and during the 90's it worked.

After the attack by the CCP on Hong Kong, the support for China in Taiwan is at historic lows.



Nonsense, the chatter among the Euroweenies is utterly irrelevant.

Unless Quid Pro surrenders outright, which he might, China would face the USA, South Korea, and Japan if they moved on Taiwan.

In 1977 Jimmy Carter told of the VAST military superiority of the USSR and tried to get America to surrender to the Soviets. He failed, though he did give them deep water ports and a beach head on the North American Continent in Nicaragua.

The pro-Soviet propaganda Carter used were satellite pictures of Soviet tanks in East Germany. Carter and the democrats demanded that the USA could in no way match such a force and we had no choice but to cave to all Soviet demands or face utter destruction.

We now know that the "tanks" were crude tin foil props constructed as a terracotta army.


China is much the same. The entire Chinese military is based on technology stolen from America. This means we know all the weaknesses. And like the soviets, the Chinese inflate the number of weapons platforms by a factor of dozens.



Objectively, China is a paper tiger. They can't even hold their own against India.

You're trying to fight an armchair war and I'm not interested.
But one point of interest is your comment on H.K. It's entirely unrealistic to expect China to entertain any attempts of H.K. separating from China.
Anyone who is aware of the history of how H.K. became a British colony would understand that!

Why China has demonstrated any goodwill at all is a mind boggling question! It won't continue for much longer as the political climate deteriorates!

 

[westwall]

They won't need to go to war with us to achieve that. They're playing the long game.

Actually, they are building a blue water navy specifically to do just that.

But I read, you clearly don't