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Capitol insurrection hearings.

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You got to love all the Republicans going on national TV and calling the Capitol Police Liars when they talk about being attacked by the rioters. One Cop literally had a stroke and died as a direct result of being attacked by the rioters. the coroner even said it was obvious that the stroke would not have happened had he not been attacked.

now the Republicans are going on TV and saying that none of the cops were ever attacked despite several videos taken by both the police body cams and the writers themselves videotaping each other attacking cops.
 

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Coming from someone who demands others apply standards he himself will not, that is an appropriate comment. Where as your response to the Floyd riots has been one of perpetual partisan outrage and emotional rants, and demands that leftists own it....your response to the Capitol riot has been somewhat...more muted shall we say?

Denying there was even an assault, calling them drama queens?


Post in thread 'U.S.Capitol on lockdown'
U.S.Capitol on lockdown

Then denying they were Trump supporters and blaming ANTIFA (hey...did you even once ask for some proof that the Floyd rioters were all Antifa/BLM?)

Post in thread 'Does this make the right Antifa now?'
Does this make the right Antifa now?

Totally down playing what happened...excusing the Trump fanatics by claiming the police let them in...

Post in thread 'Police literally opened the doors to the Capitol to protesters.'
Police literally opened the doors to the Capitol to protesters.

Post in thread 'Police literally opened the doors to the Capitol to protesters.'
Police literally opened the doors to the Capitol to protesters.

In fact...you didn’t even acknowledge that were rioters, you put it in quotes.
Post in thread 'Just saw on GMA that some politicians were hiding in their offices for FIVE HOURS terrified.'
Just saw on GMA that some politicians were hiding in their offices for FIVE HOURS terrified.

And this is the best:

Post in thread 'Now what will they do?'
Now what will they do?
“just because i don't attack who they attack doesn't mean i support or worship them. but stupid people are so very binary.”

Ever thought of applying that to others?
 

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Even better. Here’s YOUR quote:

Relatively minor. Thanks Scumball, you couldn’t have made my point better.

And adding in a personal insult too. Game set match. More proof of your not being fit to be a mod. Here’s where you lie and claim you didn’t say that.
So...you left out the post I was responding to didn’t you? The one where the poster made the claim of relatively minor....why don’t provide a link or....are you afraid it will show you up as the liar you are?
 

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You got to love all the Republicans going on national TV and calling the Capitol Police Liars when they talk about being attacked by the rioters. One Cop literally had a stroke and died as a direct result of being attacked by the rioters. the coroner even said it was obvious that the stroke would not have happened had he not been attacked.

now the Republicans are going on TV and saying that none of the cops were ever attacked despite several videos taken by both the police body cams and the writers themselves videotaping each other attacking cops.
And two others committed suicide.
 

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No they didn't. They made morons of themselves. It took just a few hours to get end all that BS. Even Trump denounced what they did. Why? Because it was stupid.

BTW, it's not "the peoples" house. Since the lobbyist took over, it's their house.
And the lobbyist represent the ultra-rich.
 

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How many charged with insurrection bodecea

You really think Nazi Pelousy and her gang of clowns is going to find something the DOJ can't? It another Pelousy dog and pony show, nothing more.
If they can get Trump and stone to tell the truth it'll be all over
 

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Joe Biden is an extremely loyal Chinese and Russian stooge for hire, and yes extremely stupid, just like you, you bound for Hell damned forever soul.
Trump went to sex parties in Moscow that were sponsored by Putin. Wake up already.
 

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Revolutions happen, and out of revolutions nations are destroyed and rebuilt. In the very best of those in the history of humanity, the American Revolution led to the creation of the greatest nation in the history of mankind.

Yes, revolutions are a tool that sometimes are the right tool for the job.

What some people need to remember is that any government put in place in the United states, outside of the constitutionally defined process of elections, would be illegitimate and would not actually be the United States. Any government put in place by force would not be a legitimate government.

Our current government, the Biden administration, is in my opinion illegitimate but the solution is in the courts or in the next election. Things happen all the time that violate the Constitution; they don't automatically invalidate our government or nation or the Constitution itself. We go to court. If we don't like the outcome of court we engage our elected officials and try to change the law. If we don't like the outcome we can peacefully protest to put more pressure on our elected officials to change the law.

But we don't use force. Force ends our nation and ends the rule of our Constitution. There are no provisions in the Constitution that tell us how to continue government changed by force, therefore the new government would not be our constitutional government and no government formed by force can claim the authority or protections of the Constitution.
First of, thank you for agreeing that force is not how we dispute election outcomes.

Having said that, I want to point out a few things. The legitimacy of the outcome of an election is decided by... well its outcome. Any challenges to that outcome are put forwards to the courts, after which a judge rules on those challenges, after that the election outcomes are certified. These steps have happened.

You can not both claim that you want to protect the constitution, and then claim the president appointed by the process in that constitution lacks legitimacy. It is a contradiction in terms.

I will also tell you why it matters. By claiming that Biden is illegitimate you are giving a justification for those who believe the same to try to remedy the situation by any means available. It leads to people like Bear thinking violence is perfectly valid.
Or to make it less hypothetical, it leads to lawmakers in Georgia voting laws that allows the state houses wich are by definition partisan and NOT the election boards which are bipartisan the power to certify the election. It also gives those lawmakers political cover to simply claim like you just did, an election illegitimate and refuse to certify a result. Thereby destroying the entire concept of free and fair elections.
 

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So you think people should be able to vote for president on the back of a cereal box?


That's basically what the left was doing
Why is it that every time you right wing wonks get nailed with facts that disprove your ignorant blatherings you introduce some nonsense that has no relevance to what was previously posted? Clearly, you want to move the goal post with false accusations and assertions.

Sorry son, but that dog of yours won't fly. The rational, objective reader sees your folly. If you don't have the cojones to just concede a point, don't waste everyone's time with your BS.
 

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Uh, because the Capitol didn’t burn and any riots that did occur weren’t an attack on the fundamentals of our democratic government.

why yes, it was. They were burning the park directly in front of the White House. It prevented normal americans from using it, it costs US money. It was destructive, potentially deadly and was an attack on the sitting president and our government. Love how you justify riots and vandalism though.
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There was no insurrection Sparky. Your support for attempted murder, killing of cops, and burning and looting businesses is noted you brain dead retard.
Please provide the link to the post were the man stated in no uncertain terms that he supports killing police, arson, looting and attempted murder. If you can't, that makes you a liar and piss poor MAGA mouthpiece.
 

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I will also tell you why it matters. By claiming that Biden is illegitimate you are giving a justification for those who believe the same to try to remedy the situation by any means available. It leads to people like Bear thinking violence is perfectly valid.
Or to make it less hypothetical, it leads to lawmakers in Georgia voting laws that allows the state houses wich are by definition partisan and NOT the election boards which are bipartisan the power to certify the election. It also gives those lawmakers political cover to simply claim like you just did, an election illegitimate and refuse to certify a result. Thereby destroying the entire concept of free and fair elections.

everyone in the world knows this was a stolen election.
 

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