Zone1 Can We Agree Consent is primary?

[Augustine_]

Oh, my imagination is quite healthy. But we aren't talking about that. We are talking about children mutilated so that some freak can make money forever from that destruction.

You invented a fantasy and now you constantly imagine children with mutilated genitals because you are a sick pervert and probably are also old, crazy, and dying

 

[westwall]

You invented a fantasy and now you constantly imagine children with mutilated genitals because you are a sick pervert and probably are also old, crazy, and dying

Nah, it's a very painful reality for a lot of children, who are now growing up and realizing that their futures were stolen from them.

They are rightfully pissed and going after those who mutilated them.

But look at you....how long have you hated children?

 

[Augustine_]

Nah, it's a very painful reality for a lot of children

In your perverted, sick and dying fantasies. Not in America.

 

[westwall]

In your perverted, sick and dying fantasies. Not in America.

Like I said, tell that to the surgeons being sued.

 

[Augustine_]

Like I said, tell that to the surgeons being sued.

How am I supposed to tell anything to surgeons that only exist in the fantasies of a sick internet pervert

 

[Cassandro]

The term "consent" brings forth very sexual intonations, and it can be an issue in sexual dynamics. We've seen it be a major issue with rape claims. A woman claims she never consented to sex she had. We've even seen modern leftists say that if a man and a woman are drunk, the woman isn't able to consent so it's rape.

However, "consent" doesn't just apply to sex, it applies to what happens to your body. And we've established in our society that if you're below the age of 18, you cannot consent. A 17 year old girl can have sex with a man who is 366 days older than his 17th birthday and be convicted of rape. Hell,We've even established when people are too young to get their bodies permanently scarred by a tattoo..

So, given all of this, I think based on precedent (and recent pushback from woke propaganda), it's safe to say that young girl shouldn't be able to "consent" to having her boobs chopped off, nor should a young boy be able to "consent" to having his dick chopped off and a large wound be purposefully inserted between his legs.

I know it takes time for new ideologies to phase out, and our society can be ashamed of what we considered. I mean, we performed lobotomies on people, and assumed babies couldn't feel pain and performed surgery on them without anesthesia. We screw things up as we go along in life inside our culture.

But, I think it's safe to say we know the grooming, convincing, or secret dwelling of a child's gender confusion by parents, school teachers, psychologists, psychiatrists, or doctors is impeding on that person's ability to consent.

As we've heard from feminists and the woke left, "Consent" is king, so truly, they should be on board with rallying with me to fight against those who would violate a person who isn't able to consent.

Am I right? JoeB131 LOL

Corruption of language is a primary tactic of leftists.

 

[JoeB131]

Oh, my imagination is quite healthy. But we aren't talking about that. We are talking about children mutilated so that some freak can make money forever from that destruction.

Give me a number, how many kids are getting Bottom surgery every year.

Gender-affirming surgeries rarely performed on transgender youth | Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health

A new Harvard Chan School study found little to no utilization of gender-affirming surgeries by transgender and gender-diverse minors in the U.S.

hsph.harvard.edu

The study found no gender-affirming surgeries performed on TGD youth ages 12 and younger in 2019. This was expected, the researchers said, as current international guidelines do not suggest any medical or surgical intervention for TGD individuals prior to puberty. For teens ages 15 to 17 and adults ages 18 and older, the rate of undergoing gender-affirming surgery with a TGD-related diagnosis was 2.1 per 100,000 and 5.3 per 100,000, respectively. A majority of these surgeries were chest surgeries. When considering use of gender-affirming breast reductions among cisgender males and TGD people, the study found that cisgender males accounted for the vast majority of breast reductions, with 80% of surgeries among adults performed on cisgender men and 97% of surgeries among minors performed on cisgender male teens.

“We found that gender-affirming surgeries are rarely performed for transgender minors, suggesting that U.S. surgeons are appropriately following international guidelines around assessment and care,” said co-author Elizabeth Boskey, instructor in the Department of Social and Behavioral Sciences.

So big surprise, you are panicking over something that's not happening.

 

[JoeB131]

Nah, it's a very painful reality for a lot of children, who are now growing up and realizing that their futures were stolen from them.

They are rightfully pissed and going after those who mutilated them.

But look at you....how long have you hated children?

Really? A Lot? Because so far, you've only really produced Chloe Brockman, (who calls herself Chloe Cole), an attention starved person who was happy to say anything to anyone who would pay attention to her.

 

[initforme]

I dont think kids are aware of being ready to make any cricial decidions before the age of 25. And that includes marriage. No sex changes, no marriage until well after that.

 

[JoeB131]

I dont think kids are aware of being ready to make any cricial decidions before the age of 25. And that includes marriage. No sex changes, no marriage until well after that.

I think it's quite the opposite.

Until recently 14 was considered old enough to get married, to have a job, etc.

This notion that you should live at home and be in school until your mid-20s- this delayed adulthood- is a large source of many of our social problems.

 

[OODA_Loop]

This notion that you should live at home and be in school until your mid-20s- this delayed adulthood- is a large source of many of our social problems.

Are traditional values perpetuating this ?

 

[initforme]

I think it's quite the opposite.

Until recently 14 was considered old enough to get married, to have a job, etc.

This notion that you should live at home and be in school until your mid-20s- this delayed adulthood- is a large source of many of our social problems.

Disagree. Totally. Forcing sdulthood at 23 is a mistake. Get a post high school education first. Work and earn for awhile. Get yourself financially steady, then consider marriage and such. You mentioned 14. 14? Cmon. Those are kids. 18 year olds are way too young much less 14. Trolling?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I dont think kids are aware of being ready to make any cricial decidions before the age of 25. And that includes marriage. No sex changes, no marriage until well after that.

Be quiet Methusaleh! No one believes the crap you come up with!

 

[initforme]

Shut up Methusaleh! No one believes the crap you come up with!

Okeeee dokeee. I see if one doesnt sgree with you it then is name calling. Got it.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Okeeee dokeee. I see if one doesnt sgree with you it then is name calling. Got it.

If you post stupidity, you deserve to be called far worse than that. Your dementia is doing the talking. Seek help!

 

[initforme]

Shut up Methusaleh! No one believes the crap you come up with!

Whats wrong with furthering ones education beyond high school begore MISTAKENLY getting married? While you hate me you havent ever explained why its so bad to become educated.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Age of consent you say?

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[initforme]

If you post stupid shit, you deserve to be called far worse than that. Your dementia is doing the talking. Seek help!

Yes it is so stupid to get educated before marriage isnt it? That way if it fsils well one csn make a WHOPPING $17 per hour for dome LESSER employer. Thats the ticket to a great life.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Whats wrong with furthering ones education beyond high school begore MISTAKENLY getting married? While you hate me you havent ever explained why its so bad to become educated.

It's not. But not everyone has to. I married in my senior year of college. I got my Masters at 43. My son married two days before he graduated high school. Didn't impact him at all. He attended college and his wife graduated. Been married 19 years. My oldest daughter married at 19, attended college off and on for years, and got her degree when she was 40. My youngest got her degree at 22 and is still not married. Different strokes for different folks. People do not have to take your dementia-ridden advice!

 

[initforme]

It's not. But not everyone has to. I married in my senior year of college. I got my Masters at 43. My son married two days before he graduated high school. Didn't impact him at all. He attended college and his wife graduated. Been married 19 years. My oldest daughter married at 19, attended college off and on for years, and got her degree when she was 40. My youngest got her degree at 22 and is still not married. Different strokes for different folks. People do not have to take your dementia-ridden advice!

Lets agree to not be fellow folk ok?