Negotiations Have Ended

"Everyone", who watch too much of western TV, and have no any alternative information sources, knows it. Those who were actually interested in Iranian political situation, knew that the picture is much more complicated.

There are ayatollahs, a bit retarded religious medieval clowns, who make their bet on "Muslim brotherhood" and who were perfectly afraid about such modern things as nukes. Actually, they saw them as "sin". After all, Islam is a modern and peaceful religion (especially comparing with Orthodox Christianity and Neolithic chtonic cults of Mother Wet Soil). And there were more progressive secular guys, who understand the logic of American aggressive foreign policy and the logic of nuclear deterrence, and who are free from all those "naive medieval moral restrictions about mass murders of personally innocent civilians"


Yep. They don't need nukes for some kind of suicidal mass murder. They need them for deterrence games. And those games are for more then one player. You can play it, too. Actually that's we are doing since 1949.
And new government will play those games, do you want it or no, because you, clowns, just eliminated the last obstacles on Iranian nuclear road.
With each post you demonstrate how deep and vast your ignorance of Iran is. The ayatollahs are the government of Iran. The President, PM, etc. are hand picked by the ayatollahs. Secular Iranians are have either been killed, imprisoned, pushed into exile, protesting against the ayatollahs government or in hiding. If you want to see secular Iranians running the country, then the present government, the ayatollahs, must be brought down.
 
Except they didn't get a bomb. If Iran wanted a bomb, they'd have gotten a bomb by now. It's the cutting edge technology of 1945.
So f'ing stupid. Enriching so much uranium to weapons grade isn't for nuclear power. We offered Iran free nuclear fuel, they declined. They want the bomb.
The US isn't being a good cop. It's being the global equivalent of Darren Chauvin.
To a commie or a leftist maybe, but to Americans who understand national security the US is simply enforcing the JCPOA by military means, when diplomacy failed miserably.
Sure it is. watching you guys piss yourselves on command because Cheeto Hitler says so is hilarious.
Ever hear Trump's little poem about the "snake"?
Watching us make eternal enemies by leveling girls' schools, no so much.
Sh!t happens when you put civilians in military facilities. Schools should be well away from military targets instead of being "human shields".
No, getting rid of Qadaffi was not a good thing, the country collapsed into chaos and it's oil has largely gone off the global markets.
It takes time. Still better that Qadaffi is gone.
No, the root cause of Hamas and Gaza are a bunch of Jewish Squatters from Europe stealing someone else's land and treating them like dirt.
Was there ever an Israel or not?
After WW2 we needed somewhere to dump the Exodus-1947. The UN said there.

Except none of those things have brought us peace, have they? We got rid of Saddam, and spent 20 years trying to pacify Iraq. We spend 20 years in Afghanistan, only to put the Taliban back into power.
Sure they have brought us peace...temporarily...until some jihadi stirs up the sh!t.
Saddam was dangerous. OBL was dangerous. Kohmeini and the crazy mullah's are dangerous.
The Taliban, if I understand things is not dangerous at all, unless you live there.

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Except Iran is not our enemy, other than we making it ours at Zionist instigation.
You are oblivious to facts and history. I hope democrats are all pro-terrorist.
 
More than half of the world, including Russia, wants you dead. It's not because they hate who you are, your culture, language, civilisation, etc... They hate you for what are you doing (basically you are killing them, interfering with their inner politics, robbing them, committing numerous acts of unprovoked and illegal aggression, supporting international terrorism and so on).
And if you don't do something extremely provocative, most of you can peacefully coexist with them. Absolute majority of Americans are nice people. The problem is with your ruling regime (which, quite possibly, isn't actually "your" regime, but it is definitely up to you to decide).
Everyone wants a bigger bucket of rice. F_k them. Get your own rice.
And both (Obama and Hillary) were wrong to get rid of Qaddafi. I don't know for whom it was good, but it was definitely bad both for America and Africa/Middle East. As a rational thinking person I prefer to think, that there is may be evil, but rationally thinking, backroom group, who actually, some way, benefited from all this mess. But, may be, it's just my wishful-thinking and there is no evil wizards somewhere behind the scene, just stupidity and incompetence of real decision-makers.
Libya needs to figure it out for themselves. Qaddafi was not the answer.
Actually, it was Israel's actions that raised both Hamas and Hezbollah.
So you say. Got a link?
If you destroyed the previous world order, you shouldn't be surprised that all players are going to regime "might is right". And nuclear Iran is much lesser problem (for America) than nuclear Brazil, nuclear Mexico or nuclear Cuba.
Brazil, Mexico, and Cuba don't want to waste resources on nuclear weapons, they rightly, would prefer to raise their citizen's standard of living, which Iran should have done with all of their oil resources. Just look around at the other Gulf states. Modern wonders.
The enemy of your enemy is your next problem. They will turn on you instantly. It happened many times in history, even in the modern American history.
True. But we have a habit of playing "whack-a-mole" with dangerous regimes.

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You attacked Iran before they became the "sponsor of terrorism".
That is the idiotic remark of a man with clabber for brains. Iran has been a known terrorist state sponsor for many decades.

Russia is a way stronger than USA.
Yeah, sure, I bet they beat that into you from childhood, making you watch propaganda and sing songs of Russian glory. Just look at where you are and where we are, what your economy looks like vs. ours.
 
You still haven't figured out that this is because of a collusion between arms manufacturers and politicians, which drives up the prices of weapons purchased by the Pentagon to several times their actual value.

It is common knowledge that the government generally pays more for things due to bureaucracy and regulations largely due to massive paperwork and bureaucracy, but if you have specific evidence that politicians are deliberately kicking up the cost of weapons many times their real value due to some sort of corruption and kick back, then let's have it--- show us who is wasting the money, how, and where it is going.

I mean, after all, since you say you've "figured it out."
 
With each post you demonstrate how deep and vast your ignorance of Iran is. The ayatollahs are the government of Iran. The President, PM, etc. are hand picked by the ayatollahs. Secular Iranians are have either been killed, imprisoned, pushed into exile, protesting against the ayatollahs government or in hiding. If you want to see secular Iranians running the country, then the present government, the ayatollahs, must be brought down.
Actually, it show that you know less than nothing about Iran.
I don't pretend that I know them very well, but looks like, it's a way more than your knowledge.
I'd like to see Atheistic government in Iran (or in the USA), but it's just aesthetical preference. What I do want, for practical reasons, to see both in Iran and the USA, are governments working for their people and entrusted by them. And while Iranian government seems more or less pro-Iranian, American government seems anti-American.
 
That is the idiotic remark of a man with clabber for brains. Iran has been a known terrorist state sponsor for many decades.
And Americans have been stealing Iranian resources for much longer time.

Yeah, sure, I bet they beat that into you from childhood, making you watch propaganda and sing songs of Russian glory. Just look at where you are and where we are, what your economy looks like vs. ours.
I've been to America few times. It's a good place, but definitely poorly managed. Most of Americans doesn't even posses their houses and can't afford medicine. I don't say that I like everything in Russia, but comparing with America - it's heaven.
 
Actually, it show that you know less than nothing about Iran.
I don't pretend that I know them very well, but looks like, it's a way more than your knowledge.
I'd like to see Atheistic government in Iran (or in the USA), but it's just aesthetical preference. What I do want, for practical reasons, to see both in Iran and the USA, are governments working for their people and entrusted by them. And while Iranian government seems more or less pro-Iranian, American government seems anti-American.
Breaking NEWS:

Vlad says Iranian govt

is more patriotic than the US.

 
So f'ing stupid. Enriching so much uranium to weapons grade isn't for nuclear power. We offered Iran free nuclear fuel, they declined.
Plain lie. As usual. Did you suggest them nuclear fuel for you naval reactors with, like, 93% enriched Uranium?
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And Americans have been stealing Iranian resources for much longer time.
Good. Iran owes us all the resources we can take. Next up: we take the whole freaking country.

I've been to America few times. It's a good place, but definitely poorly managed.
You mean free. Where there is freedom, there is always less strict management. You see, we manage ourselves, we don't need the state doing it for us.

Most of Americans doesn't even posses their houses and can't afford medicine.
Funny, I've never met any such people. Here, even illegal aliens can afford free medicine. If I come there and invade Russia, will Putin give me free housing, food, clothing, legal access, education and healthcare?

Nope, didn't think so.
 
Actually, it show that you know less than nothing about Iran.
I don't pretend that I know them very well, but looks like, it's a way more than your knowledge.
I'd like to see Atheistic government in Iran (or in the USA), but it's just aesthetical preference. What I do want, for practical reasons, to see both in Iran and the USA, are governments working for their people and entrusted by them. And while Iranian government seems more or less pro-Iranian, American government seems anti-American.
Actually, you do pretend to know all about Iran, but you didn't even know the ayatollahs were the Iranian government. The 1979 revolution in which the ayatollahs took control of Iran is the key historical fact about Iran in the last century, it is the root cause of almost all the violence and conflict in the ME today.
 
So f'ing stupid. Enriching so much uranium to weapons grade isn't for nuclear power. We offered Iran free nuclear fuel, they declined. They want the bomb.
Or they didn't want us controlling their business.
To a commie or a leftist maybe, but to Americans who understand national security the US is simply enforcing the JCPOA by military means, when diplomacy failed miserably.
Trump tore up JCPOA.

Sh!t happens when you put civilians in military facilities. Schools should be well away from military targets instead of being "human shields".
Or you can actually find out what you are bombing before you bomb it.

Was there ever an Israel or not?
After WW2 we needed somewhere to dump the Exodus-1947. The UN said there.

No, we didn't. Israel is because the world felt bad about the Holocaust. If that was the case, they should have carved a Jewish State out of Europe.
Sure they have brought us peace...temporarily...until some jihadi stirs up the sh!t.
Saddam was dangerous. OBL was dangerous. Kohmeini and the crazy mullah's are dangerous.
The Taliban, if I understand things is not dangerous at all, unless you live there.

So are we going to conquer the entire ME and convert them all to Christianity?
That's a tall order.
 
These Iranian theocrats have been handed a huge gift, on top of the advantages they have with the Strait:

While no one trusts them, no one trusts us either.

So the world has to just stand back and watch this drag on. No claims or reports can be believed. We'll probably see a few more sane countries try to mediate, OR we'll see them in SEPARATE talks with the Iranians regarding the Strait.

What a goddamn mess that buffoon put us in. Again.
He Punched their ass in the mouth.

They deserve it.
 
They can't even fix their electricity grid since 2021 - you dolt. - the factual main cause for these demonstrations in Iran.
They are a country with a GDP of a mediocre US$ 200 Billion - you even know the USA's GDP??or that of Israel?

TACO and Bibi already failed in the first week - not sufficient ground troops, not even a feasible operational plan to take on a vast country like Iran, and totally failed to get foremost their allied Gulf states involved, not even to mention to obtain NATO support.
You even aware as to why the USA had to pull out of Vietnam? - after fighting sandal wearing infantry for 15 years.

Most important, TACO totally failed to gain Russian & Chinese backing in regards to preventing Iran to obtain nuclear weapons in the future. TACO and Bibi only managed to create one hell of a global mess, with only Bibi likely to achieve his goals.

Narcissistic fraudsters and liars, have NEVER won a war.
Make up your mind. TACO are you want War?

Which is it? Hmmm
 
Actually, you do pretend to know all about Iran, but you didn't even know the ayatollahs were the Iranian government.
Ayatollahs are not "government" in the narrow meaning of the word. They are "council of experts", who elect and partly control Supreme Leader. But you shouldn't overestimate his importance. Right now Iran is doing pretty well even, de facto, without him.

The 1979 revolution in which the ayatollahs took control of Iran is the key historical fact about Iran in the last century, it is the root cause of almost all the violence and conflict in the ME today.
Of course it's not. There were a lot of violence even before 1979. The root cause for almost all the violence in the ME are Israel, Britain and the USA.
 
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Plain lie. As usual. Did you suggest them nuclear fuel for you naval reactors with, like, 93% enriched Uranium?
Of course not. Their power reactors don't need that. You skipped over the "free fuel" part. NOT A LIE

Witkoff said one of the proposals discussed at the negotiations included Iran not enriching any uranium for a decade in exchange for the U.S. paying for its nuclear fuel.
"They rejected that, which told us at that very moment that they had no notion of doing anything other than retaining enrichment for the purpose of weaponizing," Witkoff said.
 
Of course not. Their power reactors don't need that.
It doesn't mean that they are not going to develop their own compact (may be even naval) reactors. And to develop reactors you need fuel to test all systems.

You skipped over the "free fuel" part. NOT A LIE
Did you suggest them your own HEU Naval Fuel? No, you didn't.

Witkoff said one of the proposals discussed at the negotiations included Iran not enriching any uranium for a decade in exchange for the U.S. paying for its nuclear fuel.
"They rejected that, which told us at that very moment that they had no notion of doing anything other than retaining enrichment for the purpose of weaponizing," Witkoff said.
Witkoff is a liar. And he is working for Trump, so, it's seems just a stupid attempt of justification of aggression.
 
Or they didn't want us controlling their business.
Free nuclear fuel is not controlling anything, its free fuel, duh.
Trump tore up JCPOA.
The JCPOA would have expired anyway, and Iran was cheating on it. Trump said no nuclear weapons, and made it happen, you're welcome. Trump succeeded where the JCPOA falied.
Or you can actually find out what you are bombing before you bomb it.
We hit 17,000 targets. Human shields should not be used.
No, we didn't. Israel is because the world felt bad about the Holocaust. If that was the case, they should have carved a Jewish State out of Europe.
There was an Israel, the EU didn't want them, the US didn't want them.
I don't know why they just didn't return to their original homes?
So are we going to conquer the entire ME and convert them all to Christianity?
That's a tall order.
We don't "conquer" anything. We replace dangerous regimes with more peaceful regimes.
 
It doesn't mean that they are not going to develop their own compact (may be even naval) reactors. And to develop reactors you need fuel to test all systems.
Yes it means that they don't develop them, they don't need them. You keep missing the "free fuel" part.
Did you suggest them your own HEU Naval Fuel? No, you didn't.
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Witkoff is a liar. And he is working for Trump, so, it's seems just a stupid attempt of justification of aggression.
Do you have a link saying Iran would accept the free fuel offer for no enrichment? NO? Didn't think so.
 
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