Can Someone Explain how we can Impliment Socialism and Still Enjoy the Benefits of Capitalism?

I realized now that I asked the question in the wrong.

I should have asked, "how can we get rid of capitalism to replace it with socialism and still enjoy the benefits of capitalism?"
 
You should take your own advice.

Putin invaded Ukraine now both countries are stuck murdering millions of their own citizens. For what? A little bit more land?

Ridiculous. This type of warfare was supposed to have disappeared over 100 years ago.
Get in informed you stupid MFer.
 
Get in informed you stupid MFer.

I don't care what you show, Russia attacked with weapons.

There may be some legitimate arguments that some fools escalated the situation for their own reasons, but they didn't fire the first missile.

You should find some objectivity.
 
I don't care what you show, Russia attacked with weapons.

There may be some legitimate arguments that some fools escalated the situation for their own reasons, but they didn't fire the first missile.

You should find some objectivity.
You’re an idiot. You know nothing of what occurred that lead up to the invasion.

You’d happily support the US invading Mexico if the Chinese controlled their country and planned to put nuclear missiles on the Rio Grande.

Stop posting you fool.
 
You’re an idiot. You know nothing of what occurred that lead up to the invasion.

You’d happily support the US invading Mexico if the Chinese controlled their country and planned to put nuclear missiles on the Rio Grande.

Stop posting you fool.
You should read your own posts comrade.
 
" Personal Volition Of Privateers For General Welfare Before Congress Becomes Obligated "

* Classical Liberalism Mocking Social Conservatives As Economic Libertarians *


The terms authoritarian and libertarian are political science antonyms , with respect to aggression by government .

In classical liberalism , economic libertarian and civil libertarian mean economic liberal and social liberal , while economic authoritarian and civil authoritarian mean economic conservative and social conservative , while contemporary liberal versus conservative paradigm is over generalize hyperbole .

Negative liberties represent protections , independence and individualism , while positive liberties represent endowments , dependence and collectivism .

Negative liberties may be equally protected , while positive liberties may not be equally endowed .

An economic libertarian promotes equal protection of negative liberties and dissents against unequal endowment of positive liberties through government .

The enumerated rite of equal protection with US citizens in US 14th amendment is a negative liberty and not a positive liberty such as is citizenship .

There is much misconception about the edicts and tenets of creed among theistic socialists , while it is more publicly pronounced and apparent through recent political platforms that secular socialists are willing to pair with sectarian theistic socialists to secure authoritarian dictates through government .

The theistic socialists are both civil and economic authoritarians , whereas secular socialists are civil libertarians and economic authoritarians .

The civil libertarians contest against civil authoritarians and , as economic libertarians , direct attention to general welfare clause of article 1 section 8 of us constitution that general welfare is the responsibility of congress .

The economic libertarian ( economic liberal ) contests against positive liberties through government as wasteful and inefficient , while contesting against any allegiance for personal volition in accounting for a general welfare through private contributions , before a demand for government to intercede becomes significant .

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

' Why Have Socialists Not Privatized The Socialist Ideals ? '
. CDZ - Why Have Socialists Not Privatized The Socialist Ideals ? .

' Public Private Trust '
. Public Private Trust .


* Seditious Streaming Editor Includes Disavowing Overt Meaning And Suspending Constitution *

A state contracts for non sectarian products or services , irrespective of whether a sectarian religious observer provides the non sectarian products or services .

Us states do not contract for sectarian instruction , or indoctrination , or proselytizing , especially to captive audiences of children and adolescents , irrespective of whether tax payer funding occurs directly through government or indirectly through private voucher to individual citizens .

Us taxpayers do not fund segregation for sectarian supremacy .

The theistic communists and theistic socialists were being tithed from taxpayer coffers , for an illegal immigration gravy train , and the same now want parochial and madrassa funded from taxpayer coffers to foster segregation and sectarian supremacy through private vouchers .

Post #160 . There Is No Constitutional Right to Satanism .

. Are Us States Prohibited From Complying With Us 1st Amendment By Us 10th Amendment ? .


* Discretionary Creed Versus Immutable Genetics *

While race or sex are immutable qualities , creed is discretionary and prejudicial , and sectarian garb includes an intent to force discrimination .

Ultraviolet causes deconstruction of organic materials and appropriate garments are advised to cover sensitive areas .

Understand that the hi jab is a sectarian symbol and not simply a form follows function garment provisioned for physical protection in an arid environment .

There is not a difference between the edicts or tenets of creed and a religion , and there is not an exception in us 1st amendment as a religion for a creed with edicts or tenets to implement violence .


* End Of Debate Over Whether To Reconcile *

The geographic scope for the genetic religion of qurayshism is limited to hejaz ( the barrier ) and its doctrine include no holds barred directives from doctrine for violence to implement the religious polity of sharia therein .

The debase universalism of qurayshism outside of hejaz , as fictional ishmaelism , cannot extricate the no holds barred directives from doctrine for violence to implement the religious polity of sharia globally , and all are entitled to self defense by not extending an opportunity for citizenship and access to the voting booth , though travel be allowed .

The political perceptions of theistic socialists is for both economic authoritarianism ( economic conservative - socialism ) and civil authoritarian ( social conservative ) , and collaboration between secular socialists and theistic socialists is clearly occurring .

An emphasis on orwellian double think is that submitting to submission be valued ( islam - to submit ) ( muslim - one who submits ) , where government is expected to facilitate sharia hisbah ( his bah ) .

All sectarian supremacists facilitators are emphasizing populism for democracy as tyranny by collective majority , which is against independence of the individual as a basis for us republic .

Us republic and us republicanism are based on independence of the individual , through equal protection of negative liberties among individuals , within constraints for valid safety and security , whether an individual is a citizen , a corporation , or a collective of individuals such as a us state , or us federate , or a civil litigant .

* Nomian Eponymous Genetic Religions Of Semitic Patriarchs Sew Change Yearn Vernacular *

There is no such thing as a religion of islam ( infinitive to submit ) or a muslim ( one whom submits ) , and expectations for abdication to authoritarian dictates ( hisbah ) , for revering submitting to submission , is orwellian double think for mindless drones .

There is the genetic religion of qurayshism , which would only apply within the city state of hejaz for lineal descendants of ishmaelm , and its debase pretenses for universalism of qurayshism outside of hejaz termed fictional ishmaelism .

The +1400 year pogrom for sectarian supremacy of fictional ishmaelism continues against the japhetic peoples of europe and the us .

One can only imagine how things would be if us had been acquiesced by some other than japhetic peoples following antinomianism and individualism .

. End of Debate Over Whether To Reconcile .

. Zone1 - Eponymous Nomian Patriarch Genetic Religions Of Torahnism And Qurayshism : Isaac Versus Ishmael Sacrifice Circumcision Option .

. Are Circumcisions Performed Before An Age Of Consent An Act Of Illegitimate Aggression ? .

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Same way we always have OP, except not just for the rich going forward.
 
See my thread in clean debates.

Social Security, Medicare, welfare, unemployment comp, SNAP, etc, etc, etc. We have many government programs, Federal and State that are "socialized," that is, they take from the many and give to the few.

Actual Socialism, where the government owns all property and the means of production (farms, factories, refineries, etc) ain't happening here, but we do have socialistic programs. If we didn't, there would be civil war.
Good, then let’s have the war, we wipe out the scum looking for their handouts and then we can return to a decent society.

I’m suggesting ambushes around welfare offices, planned parenthood offices, and food pantries as a start.
 
Choice under capitalism:

Let's start with the universally recognized definition of Capital itself.

Capital is self-increasing value. There is complete consensus on this definition—no one disputes it today because it is so obvious. Let's just clarify what self-increasing value is.

It is any resource that, when put into circulation, generates a profit (self-increases) that can be assessed in material terms. Money, if it just sits there, is treasure. But it is not Capital. Machinery and equipment, if they do not produce anything, are scrap metal, not Capital. Any resources that are not used and do not generate profit by increasing value are not Capital.

Let's move on. Capitalism is an economic system in which Capital is the basis and has a global impact on all aspects of society. It is the interests of capital that determine what is good and what is bad. Otherwise, the economic foundation without which society cannot exist will collapse.

As we figured out earlier, Capital has to keep growing. As soon as Capital stops growing, it turns into anything, but it's not Capital anymore.

Sooner or later, the market becomes oversaturated, growth slows down, and even stops completely. And, as follows from the very definition of Capital, if Capital does not grow, then it is not Capital. Consequently, the capitalist system comes to an end. And here there are only two options:


The first is a transition to a different economic system. Either roll back to the barbarism of feudalism or slavery, or move forward—abandoning commodity production (production for sale and endless profit) in favor of social production, where goods and services are produced not for the sake of Capital growth and profit, but to meet the needs of society.
In other words, this is an option where capitalism dies out one way or another and ceases to exist altogether.

There is only one way to preserve capitalism
and restart production: to somehow reset everything that has been produced before and start producing again.
And there is only one way to do this: War (even without the inevitable division of resources and markets under capitalism).
Whether capitalists are good or not is irrelevant.
Either they agree to war, or Capital ceases to be Capital and the entire economic system of capitalism collapses.
In reality, this is how it happens: a handful of people in power, expressing the interests of big Capital, simply start wars under any plausible pretext.

And, of course, these wars are not fought for a single purpose. There are many. These include the personal interests of individuals who receive kickbacks for lucrative contracts, etc.

But the essence remains the same: wars are inevitable under capitalism! No matter how hard we try to be kind and fair. Choose: either cave barbarism and endless wars, or a transition to a new economic system. Maybe it's not so attractive in terms of selling unnecessary goods and services, but at least no one will have to die for the interests of Capital.

Think!
 
This is Not Capitalism!

This is CorpsCon!

We have been and are being Conned by Corporations! When was the latest that PhD economists should have figured out Planned Obsolescence in Automobiles? I think 1980, a Decade after the Moon Landing.

Look at WWII fighter planes. Machines capable of 350 to 450 mph. The P-38 Lightning took to the sky in Jan of 1939 with two V-12 1600 horsepower engines. How many makes and models of cars have been manufactured since 1980? Why should anyone give a damn?

Karl Marx used the word 'depreciation' 100+ times in his major work. But Adam Smith and Karl Marx never saw a Planned Obsolescence Economy.

Double Entry Accounting is SEVEN HUNDRED YEARS old. Adam Smith used the word 'education' EIGHTY Times in Wealth of Nations and wrote "read, write and ACCOUNT" FIVE times. Proper accounting would mean keeping track of the depreciation of durable consumer junk.

Why hasn't Accounting been mandatory in high schools since 1950? Why don't economists suggest such a thing? Are the pawns supposed to be ignorant in the economic power game?

What is the NET Domestic Product anyway? Why is GROSS all we ever hear?

What happened to the consumer Depreciation variable in the equation? Can PhD economists do Algebra?

The road to serfdom is paved with BMWs.
 
The US healthcare system is in critical condition, which will lead to its collapse. The main reason is market monopolization, which leads to inefficient resource allocation. As a result, a two-tier healthcare system is formed: high-quality, efficient, and innovative cash payment for those who can afford it, and a low-quality, predictable, and limited system for those who cannot afford it.

So, after a brief aberration, when the bourgeoisie, fearing the USSR, set up welfare states, capitalism is entering its natural stage—living to old age and in good health is becoming a privilege of the rich, and eugenics controls the “health of the nation.”
 
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During a hearing in the US Senate, the nominee for US Treasury Secretary was asked whether it was true that if the US defaulted on its debt, the Bank of England would be the debt collector.
Bessent replied that he had learned about this a few days ago. If confirmed, he would cancel the deal.

In that case, the Americans would not be opposed to London City ceasing to exist in all its forms.
Especially if the US plan (and it is looking more and more like this) is to destroy its creditors with the help of others, namely the Russians. London is the prime candidate here, and it is becoming increasingly obvious considering how London is provoking Russia.
 
It is incredibly difficult to explain to people raised in a social darwinist society that communists do not long for the benefits of the USSR, but for the Soviet family society, where people are not competitors, but friends, comrades, and brothers... and the socialist system is merely the Foundation for the existence of such a society...
Dear foolish people, marxists are not calling you to the GULAG, they are calling you back to the Family.
And yes... those who stubbornly insist on living off the Family and at its expense will inevitably end up in the GULAG.
 
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