Zone1 Reverse Engineering of a Real Estate Boom and Paying off the USA national debt?

[DennisPTate]

For about fifty of my sixty six years I have been rather obsessively studying Theology, Spirituality and especially near death experience accounts.

I believe that the gifted Pastor David Wilkerson in 1973 was given a prediction for the future of the USA that theoretically can be Reverse Engineered?

[Pastor David Wilkerson] :

"There will be a sudden rush to buy farms, ranches, and homes in the country.

Thousands will attempt to flee from cities, hoping that a return to the land and
nature will provide security. There will be a growing urge to "get away from it
all"---and much money will be invested in land and acreage in rural areas by
people who have secret dreams of raising their own food and cattle and of
becoming self-supporting. The price of open rural land will continue to soar.

Acreage within 100 miles of most major cities will skyrocket out of reach to
all but syndicates." (David Wilkerson, The Vision, page 18,19).

I am of the belief that "Unconditional but Taxable Basic Minimum Income Supplements" as advocated by Economist Milton Friedman can set in motion this shift in demographics toward MORE AMERICANS LIVING in rural or somewhat rural areas several tens of miles away from their probable first home and primary residence that will still likely be in cities, suburbs of cities or in towns in the USA?

I believe that Dr. Milton Friedman was correct that the existing USA Welfare System encourages a lack of productivity, [which is dangerous because the value of the USA Dollar depends on the productivity of the USA worker], that is of course multiplied now by robotics and Artificial Intelligence.

x. The Distribution of IncomeFriedman examines the progressive income tax, introduced in order to redistribute income to make things more fair, and finds that, in fact, the rich take advantage of numerous loopholes, nullifying the redistributive effects. It would be far more fair just to have a uniform flat tax with no deductions, which could meet the 1962 tax revenues with a rate only slightly greater than the lowest tax bracket at that time.

xi. Social Welfare MeasuresThough well-intentioned, many social welfare measures don't help the poor as much as some think. Friedman focuses on Social Security as a particularly large and unfair system.

xii. Alleviation of PovertyFriedman regarded welfare programs as misguided and inefficient. To replace them, he advocates a negative income tax, giving everyone a guaranteed minimum income.

Capitalism and Freedom - Wikipedia

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Now that we are in the 250th anniversary of the American Revolutionary War we desperately need to understand the real reason why America was forced to revolt against the Elite Bankers of London, England.

Alain Pilote is a prominent proponent of Social Credit, a financial reform movement, and a writer for the Michael Journal. He outlines the history of banking control as a transition from debt-free money to a system where private banks create money as interest-bearing debt, advocating for public, debt-free money creation.
Key Perspectives from Alain Pilote's Writings:

• The History of Banking Control: In his analysis (specifically Lesson 7 of his Economic Democracy series), Pilote details how private bankers gained control over money creation, a power he argues should reside with the state.
• Banks Create Money as Debt: Pilote argues that the current system is flawed because banks create the principal of loans but not the interest, creating a perpetual, impossible debt cycle for governments and individuals.
• Social Credit Solution: He advocates for a "National Credit Office" (similar to a fully utilized Bank of Canada) that would issue debt-free money based on the physical capacity of the economy to produce goods, not on financial debt.
• "Poverty Amidst Plenty": Pilote argues that financial systems, not a lack of resources, are responsible for economic crises, stating that there is enough productive capacity to satisfy needs.

Pilote's work is heavily influenced by the Social Credit teachings of Louis Even and the social doctrine of the Catholic Church.

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I believe that it is true that the American Revolutionary War began because Elite Bankers in London, England wanted to impoverish the USA middle class.
In 2026 there are many extremely wealthy WHO DO NOT WANT Americans free to build a second home tens of miles away from their primary residence in towns and cities.

[Alain Pilote]

We are in 1750. The United States of America does not yet exist; it is the 13 Colonies of the American continent, forming “New England”, a possession of the motherland, England. Benjamin Franklin wrote about the population of that time: “Impossible to find a happier and more prosperous population on all the surface of the globe.” Going over to England to represent the interests of the Colonies, Franklin was asked how he accounted for the prosperous conditions prevailing in the Colonies, while poverty was rife in the motherland:

“That is simple,” Franklin replied. “In the Colonies we issue our own money. It is called Colonial Scrip. We issue it in proper proportion to make the products pass easily from the producers to the consumers. In this manner, creating ourselves our own paper money, we control its purchasing power, and we have no interest to pay to no one.”

The English bankers, being informed of that, had a law passed by the British Parliament prohibiting the Colonies from issuing their own money, and ordering them to use only the gold or silver debt-money that was provided in insufficient quantity by the English bankers. The circulating medium of exchange was thus reduced by half.

“In one year,” Franklin stated, “the conditions were so reversed that the era of prosperity ended, and a depression set in, to such an extent that the streets of the Colonies were filled with unemployed.”

Then the Revolutionary War was launched against England, and was followed by the Declaration of Independence in 1776. History textbooks erroneously teach that it was the tax on tea that triggered the American Revolution. But Franklin clearly stated:

“The Colonies would gladly have borne the little tax on tea and other matters, had it not been the poverty caused by the bad influence of the English bankers on the Parliament: which has caused in the Colonies hatred of England, and the Revolutionary War.”

The Founding Fathers of the United States, bearing all these facts in mind, and to protect themselves against the exploitation of the International Bankers, took good care to expressly declare, in the American Constitution, signed at Philadelphia, in 1787, Article 1, Section 8, paragraph 5:

“Congress shall have the power to coin money and to regulate the value thereof.”​

The bank of the bankers​

Chapter 49 — The History of Banking Control in the United States

This fight of the International Financiers to install their fraudulent debt-money system has been particularly vicious in the United States of America since its very foundation, and historical facts show that several American statesmen were well aware of the dishonest money system the Financiers...

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I believe that the suggestion by Mr. Mo Gawdat is correct, only Basic Minimum Income Supplements can prevent a Pandemic of Unemployment, Under employment and homelessness as Artificial Intelligence and Robotics replace USA and Canadian workers.

Thread 'Mo Gawdat predicts that A. I. will lead to B. M. I? Is he correct?'

Nov 22, 2025

Mo Gawdat predicts that Artificial Intelligence and robotics will lead to the need for B. M. I., is he correct?

I believe that he is but there are certain aspects of the history of the United States that need to be widely understood before we can get this right.

We must understand that in theory three hundred and fifty million Americans own the USA Dollar itself, [but elected officials have been convinced that they own it due to the influence of a group know as "Neo-Malthusians."

"Ex-Google Exec (WARNING): The Next 15 Years Will Be Hell Before We Get To...

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[DennisPTate]

President Donald J. Trump, for all of his many, many, many, many, many flaws.....
obviously wants to go down in history as having played in the same league as President Abraham Lincoln and President John F. Kennedy when it comes to tackling Flaws in the USA Central Banking System.

I believe that the Great Spirit of the USA Forty Eight First Nations Tribes has been mentoring President Donald J. Trump toward being FEARLESS, [which is NOT a characteristic that is often seen in elected officials].

I believe that The Great Spirit is YHWH of the Jewish nation and I believe that the nation of Israel will mourn and mourn and mourn for the terribly flawed President Donald John Trump wondering if perhaps he may have been their "Moshiach ben Yosef - Ephrayim," Messiah son of Joseph - Ephrayim.

Native American YHWH​

Long before he seriously thought about becoming POTUS President Donald John Trump was being set up to become the Arch-Rival to the Neo-Malthusians who tend to support Mr. Al Gore's Carbon Tax idea and the Bill Gates' "Innovating to zero" plans.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump

Later in 1988, Trump acquired the Taj Mahal Casino in Atlantic City, New Jersey, in a transaction with Merv Griffin and Resorts International.[67] The casino was opened in April 1990, and was built at a total cost of $1.1 billion, which at the time made it the most expensive casino ever built.[68][69] Financed with $675 million in junk bonds[70] at a 14% interest rate, the project entered Chapter 11 bankruptcy the following year.[71] Banks and bondholders, facing potential losses of hundreds of millions of dollars, opted to restructure the debt.

I am a Canadian who has gotten the impression that more than ninety percent of Americans do not know about some critical aspects of their own history.

[Melvin Sickler] :

Abraham Lincoln and John F. Kennedy
Two great presidents of the United States Assassinated for the cause of justice

Abraham Lincoln

During the Civil War (1861-1865), President Lincoln needed money to finance the War from the North. The Bankers were going to charge him 24% to 36% interest. Lincoln was horrified and went away greatly distressed, for he was a man of principle and would not think of plunging his beloved country into a debt that the country would find impossible to pay back.


Eventually President Lincoln was advised to get Congress to pass a law authorizing the printing of full legal tender Treasury notes to pay for the War effort. Lincoln recognized the great benefits of this issue. At one point he wrote:

"... (we) gave the people of this Republic the greatest blessing they have ever had -- their own paper money to pay their own debts..."

Lincoln printed 400 million dollars worth of Greenbacks (the exact amount being $449,338,902), money that he delegated to be created, a debt-free and interest-free money to finance the War. It served as legal tender for all debts, public and private. He printed it, paid it to the soldiers, to the U.S. Civil Service employees, and bought supplies for war.
Shortly after that happened, "The London Times" printed the following: "If that mischievous financial policy, which had its origin in the North American Republic, should become indurated down to a fixture, then that Government will furnish its own money without cost. That govern-ment must be destroyed, or it will destroy every monarchy on the globe." In retaliation

After this was published in "The London Times", the British Government, which was controlled by the London and other European Bankers, moved to support the Confederate South, hoping to defeat Lincoln and the Union, and destroy this government which they said had to be destroyed.

The Czar of Russia sent a portion of the Russian navy to the United States with orders that its admiral would operate under the command of Abraham Lincoln. These ships of the Russian navy then became a threat to the ships of the British navy which had intended to break the blockade and help the South.

The North won the War, and the Union was preserved. America remained as one nation.

Of course, the Bankers were not going to give in that easy, for they were determined to put an end to Lincoln's interest-free, debt-free Greenbacks. He was assassinated by an agent of the Bankers shortly after the War ended.

Thereafter, Congress revoked the Green-back Law and enacted, in its place, the National Banking Act. The national banks were to be privately owned and the national bank notes they issued were to be interest bearing. The Act also provided that the Greenbacks should be retired from circulation as soon as they came back to the Treasury in payment of taxes.

In 1972, the United States Treasury Department was asked to compute the amount of interest that would have been paid if that 400 million dollars would have been borrowed at interest instead of being issued by Abraham Lincoln. They did some computations, and a few weeks later, the United States Treasury Department said the United States Government saved 4 billion dollars in interest because Lincoln had created his own money.

Abraham Lincoln & John F.K assassination

Abraham Lincoln and John F. Kennedy Two great presidents of the United States Assassinated for the cause of justice

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I would suggest to President Donald John Trump, or some of his children or grandchildren, that perhaps they should meet with Mr. Mel Minitor, [Chief Standing Eagle]!

Peace Chief​

Mel Standing Eagle 'Bringer of Spiritual Messengers' is an elected feathered Peace Chief and pipe carrier.



Mel was feathered by Chief Louie Chavis of the Beaver Creek Nation in August of 2009



Standing Eagle has been blessed to travel and work with Chief Sonne Reyna, Grandfather Wallace Black Elk and others over the years.



He is now the carrier of the sacred bundle carried by Ghost Wolf use by the Hopi elders believed to come from the Mayan.



Mel Standing Eagle continues to carry the traditions and research done by Ghost Wolf.

Continuing visions of the future that echo Native American prophecies preserved by the Hopi, Lakota, and Sioux — foretelling a new era for humanity and the rise of the Rainbow Warriors. These spiritually awakened individuals, drawn from all cultures, were foreseen to emerge during a time of global crisis to restore Mother Earth's balance and harmony.

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HaShem willing it may be decades from now but when President Donald J. Trump passes on..... the little nation of Israel will mourn for him at a level that will astonish most Americans.

“And I will pour on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace and supplication; then they will look on Me whom they pierced. Yes, they will mourn for Him as one mourns for his only son, and grieve for Him as one grieves for a firstborn. 11In that day there shall be a great mourning in Jerusalem, like the mourning at Hadad Rimmon in the plain of Megiddo. 12And the land shall mourn, every family by itself: the family of the house of David by itself, and their wives by themselves; the family of the house of Nathan by itself, and their wives by themselves; 13the family of the house of Levi by itself, and their wives by themselves; the family of Shimei by itself, and their wives by themselves; 14all the families that remain, every family by itself, and their wives by themselves.

Zechariah 12 | NKJV Bible | YouVersion

The Coming Deliverance of JudahThe burden of the word of the Lord against Israel. Thus says the Lord, #Is. 42:5; 44:24who stretches out the heavens, lays the foundation of the earth, and #Num. 16:22;

www.bible.com

Mourning for Moshiach ben Yosef (Messiah son of Joseph) is a Jewish tradition based on Talmud Sukkah 52a regarding the future Messianic era, where he will be killed in the war of Gog and Magog. This tragedy triggers intense mourning, compared to mourning for an only child, as part of the final, challenging stages of redemption.
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Key Aspects of the Mourning

• The Talmudic Basis: Sukkah 52a interprets the verse "And the land shall mourn, every family apart" (Zechariah 12:10) as a lamentation for the death of Moshiach ben Yosef, a figure representing a "suffering Messiah".
• Alternative View: Another opinion in the Gemara says this mourning is for the destruction of the yetzer hara (evil inclination).
• The Event: Moshiach ben Yosef is expected to fight in the final battle (Gog u'Magog) to prepare the world for the era of Moshiach ben Dovid. His death causes immense turmoil, and Mashiach ben Dovid subsequently prays for his life, indicating a hope for resurrection, say Chabadpedia and Ari Goldwag.
• Symbolism: He is associated with the tribe of Ephraim and represents the physical, practical, and military aspects of redemption, which may face defeat before the final victory of the messianic king from the house of David.

The mourning signifies the profound suffering and ultimate spiritual victory that takes place before the final, peaceful, and glorious redemption, say Chabad.org and Torah Mitzion

 

[g5000]

For about fifty of my sixty six years I have been rather obsessively studying Theology, Spirituality and especially near death experience accounts.

I believe that the gifted Pastor David Wilkersy on in 1973 was given a prediction for the future of the USA that theoretically can be Reverse Engineered?

I have no idea what you are going on about, but the idea of family farms has gone the way of the dodo bird, and would be a giant leap backward.

At the time of our Founding, 98 percent of the US population was involved in the agricultural sector, strictly out of necessity for survival.

Today, just 2 percent of the population is in agriculture. Yet we are producing more food than ever, thanks to the Green Revolution and technology.

I would wager that most Americans are not the slightest bit interested in acquiring a family farm.

This idea of a pastoral utopia harkens all the way back to Thomas Jefferson who envisioned that kind of future for America. The man had terrible vision when it came to how economies work. Alexander Hamilton saw the financial way forward that has made us the world's economic superpower, and that is why the two were bitter enemies.

I believe that Dr. Milton Friedman was correct that the existing USA Welfare System encourages a lack of productivity, [which is dangerous because the value of the USA Dollar depends on the productivity of the USA worker], that is of course multiplied now by robotics and Artificial Intelligence.

I am a big fan of Milton Friedman. He is one of my economic heroes.

Milton Friedman's "negative income tax" sounds counterintuitive in the context of fiscal conservatism, and Friedman was the first to admit that. The negative income tax is a version of a Universal Basic Income.

However, Friedman stated that his negative income tax would replace ALL forms of government welfare and thus reap tremendous savings in fraud reduction and administrative waste. He is correct in this claim, IMHO.

Not a lot of people know that some of our Founder's were quite liberal in the modern sense of the word. Thomas Jefferson, for example, advocated for the progressive tax system we have today.

Thomas Paine, for another example, most famously known for his Common Sense pamphlet, wrote a much lesser known pamphlet called Agrarian Justice. In that publication Paine argued for a Social Security safety net for seniors as well as a universal basic income. Pretty interesting, eh?

You can read Agrarian Justice here:

https://www.uitrustnz.org/Resources/Thomas%20Paine%20Agrarian%20Justice/agrarianjusticeo00pain.pdf

 

[DennisPTate]

I have no idea what you are going on about, but the idea of family farms has gone the way of the dodo bird, and would be a giant leap backward.

At the time of our Founding, 98 percent of the US population was involved in the agricultural sector, strictly out of necessity for survival.

Today, just 2 percent of the population is in agriculture. Yet we are producing more food than ever, thanks to the Green Revolution and technology.

I would wager that most Americans are not the slightest bit interested in acquiring a family farm.

This idea of a pastoral utopia harkens all the way back to Thomas Jefferson who envisioned that kind of future for America. The man had terrible vision when it came to how economies work. Alexander Hamilton saw the financial way forward that has made us the world's economic superpower, and that is why the two were bitter enemies.




I am a big fan of Milton Friedman. He is one of my economic heroes.

Milton Friedman's "negative income tax" sounds counterintuitive in the context of fiscal conservatism, and Friedman was the first to admit that. The negative income tax is a version of a Universal Basic Income.

However, Friedman stated that his negative income tax would replace ALL forms of government welfare and thus reap tremendous savings in fraud reduction and administrative waste. He is correct in this claim, IMHO.

Not a lot of people know that some of our Founder's were quite liberal in the modern sense of the word. Thomas Jefferson, for example, advocated for the progressive tax system we have today.

Thomas Paine, for another example, most famously known for his Common Sense pamphlet, wrote a much lesser known pamphlet called Agrarian Justice. In that publication Paine argued for a Social Security safety net for seniors as well as a universal basic income. Pretty interesting, eh?

You can read Agrarian Justice here:

https://www.uitrustnz.org/Resources/Thomas%20Paine%20Agrarian%20Justice/agrarianjusticeo00pain.pdf

You are correct that family farms can no longer be economically productive......
but if somebody who has became a millionaire, perhaps by selling their primary residence, wants to move to a rural area where they can have a garden and grow their own food........ then the desire to get away from what is sold in grocery stores could be the driving force in this very new logical trend.

More and more people are beginning to catch onto the implications of "Neo-Malthusian Economic Philosophy" and getting away from Big Cities is a logical response for anybody who can afford to take that step.

Zone1 Thread 'Could Bill Gates have a BIAS against TREES and plants due to his beliefs on how to save the environment?'

Apr 23, 2026

Is it just my imagination or could Mr. Bill Gates be BIASED AGAINST TREES AND PLANTS due to his idea on how best to save trees and plants and fish and birds over a longer term such as five to ten centuries?

After all....
if you really believe that a world population of about six and a half BILLION in 2010 must be reduced down to two or three billion people...... then TREES AND PLANTS are an enemy......
because trees and plants would tend to be useful in assisting HUMANS to SURVIVE VS BEING DEPOPULATED?

Innovating to zero! | Bill Gates​

NO wonder Sir Richard...

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