Breakthrough Cases Are NOT the Problem

[Juicin]

Don’t trust the science comes from uneducated MAGA nuts

I'm half south asian honey

I'm not maga

I just know better than to trust ivy league educated doctors when money and status are relevant

 

[Papageorgio]

Makes one wonder what else you’re clueless about. Just kidding. It’s obvious.

I don't wonder what you are clueless about, I just know you are clueless about everything. Ohhh, you figured out how to use icons, I'm impressed, did a four year old tell you about them?

 

[OKTexas]

Over 100 years of anecdotal evidence and there was no such thing back then. However, we DO know that viruses are transmitted in many ways. The most dangerous is an airborne virus, which needs no host.

Thus asymptomatic people with the virus on them spread them quite nicely. That's why virology labs use such extraordinary methods to prevent spread.

Because they HAVE to.

All viruses need a host or they die. Most asymptomatic people don't have a sufficient viral load to spread the virus. Asymptomatic means they aren't coughing, sneezing or running a fever, so they wouldn't be causing the virus to go airborne. Physical contact would be required for an asymptomatic person to transfer the virus.

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[westwall]

All viruses need a host or they die. Most asymptomatic people don't have a sufficient viral load to spread the virus. Asymptomatic means they aren't coughing, sneezing or running a fever, so they wouldn't be causing the virus to go airborne. Physical contact would be required for an asymptomatic person to transfer the virus.

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True, and that proves my point. There are reservoirs out there that host the deadly viruses, yet don't suffer from them.

Ebola or Lassa will remain dormant for years before there is an outbreak. Then, all of a sudden, boom.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

There are 7000 unvaccinated and covid positive criminal invaders in McAllen Texas right now. How many body bags have been requested? Has a field hospital been set up to treat the sick? None and none.

 

[HaShev]

Breakthrough cases aren’t the cause of the US Covid-19 surge

Unvaccinated people still make up the vast majority of cases, hospitalizations, and deaths.

www.vox.com

But the evidence is clear: The problem is the unvaccinated population. If more people got the vaccines, the current surge wouldn’t be as big; it certainly wouldn’t lead to the levels of hospitalization and death now seen across the US. This was true months ago, and remains true today.

Unvaccinated people still make up the vast majority of cases, hospitalizations, and deaths. They’ve made up more than 94 percent of reported Covid-19 cases in states with available data, a report last week from the Kaiser Family Foundation found. They’ve also made up similar, or higher, shares of hospitalizations and deaths.

Then there’s what really happened in the Provincetown outbreak. The headlines noted three-fourths of people infected by the virus were vaccinated. But among the more than 900 cases tracked as a result of the outbreak, just seven led to hospitalization — and there were zero deaths. If this was 2020, when there were no vaccines, closer to 90 people would have been hospitalized and about nine would have died, based on hospitalization and death rates over the last year.

I disagree,
It's the vaccinated population most likely to spread without knowing they are carrying, and least likely to remain cautious.
Blame the administration for not educating the public and emphasizing that the vaccine is not a shield against the virus, therefore safe distance and caution was still something that should have never disappeared during the reopening.

 

[Rigby5]

The problem obviously is "flattening the curve"
It is easy to keep any epidemic going indefinitely if you "flatten the curve" and conserve easy hosts.
What you want to do instead, is to use up all the easy hosts so that the epidemic has no where to go to, so in 12 days it dies.

As long as you seclude the elderly and compromised, the best strategy is to encourage infection among the young/healthy, so that it ends as quickly as possible.
We could and should have ended it last March, and saved over 550,000 people.

The strategy of "flattening the curve" has never worked, never could work, and is an absurd strategy that results in the largest possible death toll because it keeps the epidemic from ending, for the longest possible time duration.
We must never do "flattening the curve" ever again.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

I disagree,
It's the vaccinated population most likely to spread without knowing they are carrying, and least likely to remain cautious.
Blame the administration for not educating the public and emphasizing that the vaccine is not a shield against the virus, therefore safe distance and caution was still something that should have never disappeared during the reopening.

The vaccine is a shield against death and incapacity. Since you feel that the vaccinated are a problem, the only protection then is the vaccine.

 

[westwall]

The vaccine is a shield against death and incapacity. Since you feel that the vaccinated are a problem, the only protection then is the vaccine.

The virus is weak. The best treatment is to get sick.

 

[jknowgood]

Breakthrough cases aren’t the cause of the US Covid-19 surge

Unvaccinated people still make up the vast majority of cases, hospitalizations, and deaths.

www.vox.com

But the evidence is clear: The problem is the unvaccinated population. If more people got the vaccines, the current surge wouldn’t be as big; it certainly wouldn’t lead to the levels of hospitalization and death now seen across the US. This was true months ago, and remains true today.

Unvaccinated people still make up the vast majority of cases, hospitalizations, and deaths. They’ve made up more than 94 percent of reported Covid-19 cases in states with available data, a report last week from the Kaiser Family Foundation found. They’ve also made up similar, or higher, shares of hospitalizations and deaths.

Then there’s what really happened in the Provincetown outbreak. The headlines noted three-fourths of people infected by the virus were vaccinated. But among the more than 900 cases tracked as a result of the outbreak, just seven led to hospitalization — and there were zero deaths. If this was 2020, when there were no vaccines, closer to 90 people would have been hospitalized and about nine would have died, based on hospitalization and death rates over the last year.

They aren't even counting the deaths anymore. I think I got it in 2019. Oh and I'm just fine almost two years later.

 

[Rigby5]

The vaccine is a shield against death and incapacity. Since you feel that the vaccinated are a problem, the only protection then is the vaccine.

No, naturally acquired immunity is always better than a simulated immunity from an artificial vaccine, and the problem with these mRNA vaccines is we have no idea how lethal they might become as they initiate potentially fatal allergic reactions in the future.
They have already killed thousands, as the artificial spike protein they inject can migrate to sensitive places like the heart or brain.
But the bigger wholesale death potential would be if they initiate a fatal reaction to other benign coronaviruses or to exosomes themselves.

 

[jc456]

The irony of that is that trump and his whole family have been vaccinated.

trump did it in secret so his followers wouldn't know.

nope, we all know, that is just another lie by you all.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

The virus is weak. The best treatment is to get sick.

Go ahead on, fool.

 

[OKTexas]

True, and that proves my point. There are reservoirs out there that host the deadly viruses, yet don't suffer from them.

Ebola or Lassa will remain dormant for years before there is an outbreak. Then, all of a sudden, boom.

It also proves all this hysteria is unwarranted.

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[Rigby5]

The virus is weak. The best treatment is to get sick.

Yes, for most people, just getting a little sick is the safest way to get over it for good.
Those too much at risk to get sick, also are too much at risk for the vaccine, so should just seclude until it is over.

 

[Rigby5]

Go ahead on, fool.

We need enough people doing that so that it ends.
It is those who are "flattening the curve" who are making it linger forever.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

No, naturally acquired immunity is always better than a simulated immunity from an artificial vaccine, and the problem with these mRNA vaccines is we have no idea how lethal they might become as they initiate potentially fatal allergic reactions in the future.
They have already killed thousands, as the artificial spike protein they inject can migrate to sensitive places like the heart or brain.
But the bigger wholesale death potential would be if they initiate a fatal reaction to other benign coronaviruses or to exosomes themselves.

“ the problem with these mRNA vaccines is we have no idea how lethal they might become as they initiate potentially fatal allergic reactions in the future.”

 

[EvMetro]

PARTIAL protection - Delta is killing young, fit people with zero in the way of underlying conditions.

Vaccinated young fit people

 

[Rigby5]

“ the problem with these mRNA vaccines is we have no idea how lethal they might become as they initiate potentially fatal allergic reactions in the future.”

Remember that the covid virus has not killed anyone.
Those who have died were killed by the over reaction of their own immune system.
So then isn't it obvious that hyping up your immune system with a spike protein is very risky?
Remember that the original purpose of that spike protein is so exosomes can be allowed into cells.
If you created an immune response to the spike protein, you can get our immune system to attack our own exosomes, which obviously would be fatal.

 

[DrLove]

Vaccinated young fit people

Next to nobody who's fully vaxed is dying from Delta and nobody is dying from the vaccine.
Keep saying it though Rainman - Maybe that'll make your claims come true?