Breaking News On The Russia Investigation

[toobfreak]

Last night, an insider NSA agent came forth with a shocking bit of news:

One thing they know from the hacks into the DNC which were the basis of the Russia-Trump allegations is the SPEED at which the data was removed, and the speed was TOO HIGH TO HAVE OCCURRED OVER THE INTERNET!

So, THE ONLY WAY THE DNC COULD HAVE BEEN HACKED was to have had A PERSON RIGHT THERE DOWNLOADING THE FILES STRAIGHT OFF THE COMPUTER!

Unless the Democrats had a russian agent working from the inside, this would seem to suggest the entire DNC Server Affair had to have been an INSIDE JOB.

When I have time tonight, I will try to provide additional details as they are made available.

So the whole Russia story has quietly disappeared from the news--- ---could this be why now the Medias have whipped up this global crisis about how Trump didn't give the preferred cathartic Pavlovian response to the riots in Charlottesville? Could it be that Trump is secretly a KKK member? Maybe we need a new investigation!

The funny thing is that through ALL THE YEARS as a public figure, through ALL THE YEARS as a television celebrity, NEVER in all of that time was Trump EVER accused of being a racist! Betcha it happens NOW!

Have to keep Trump in the negative news limelight and hold his poll numbers down if ever the DNC is to regain power!

 

[Freewill]

This is why the left wing is now hoping that something anything is found. They want investigations into every aspect of Trump's life. I am sure they will find something. I would hope that when they do they would do one thing, STFU, but I doubt that happens.

 

[Fenton Lum]

The corporate state has another distraction for a while and any distraction will do. Keep screeching at each other friends, as you society continues to swirl down the shitter.

 

[mamooth]

Last night, an insider NSA agent came forth with a shocking bit of news

One thing they know from the hacks into the DNC which were the basis of the Russia-Trump allegations is the SPEED at which the data was removed, and the speed was TOO HIGH TO HAVE OCCURRED OVER THE INTERNET!

No, that's totally wrong. The speeds were easily obtainable.

That's another reason why everyone laughs at the Trump-losers. They manage to be completely wrong on every topic, and then they base idiot conspiracy theories on being totally wrong.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Let's see the server, and answer all questions.

 

[OldLady]

Last night, an insider NSA agent came forth with a shocking bit of news:

One thing they know from the hacks into the DNC which were the basis of the Russia-Trump allegations is the SPEED at which the data was removed, and the speed was TOO HIGH TO HAVE OCCURRED OVER THE INTERNET!

So, THE ONLY WAY THE DNC COULD HAVE BEEN HACKED was to have had A PERSON RIGHT THERE DOWNLOADING THE FILES STRAIGHT OFF THE COMPUTER!

Unless the Democrats had a russian agent working from the inside, this would seem to suggest the entire DNC Server Affair had to have been an INSIDE JOB.

When I have time tonight, I will try to provide additional details as they are made available.

So the whole Russia story has quietly disappeared from the news--- ---could this be why now the Medias have whipped up this global crisis about how Trump didn't give the preferred cathartic Pavlovian response to the riots in Charlottesville? Could it be that Trump is secretly a KKK member? Maybe we need a new investigation!

The funny thing is that through ALL THE YEARS as a public figure, through ALL THE YEARS as a television celebrity, NEVER in all of that time was Trump EVER accused of being a racist! Betcha it happens NOW!

Have to keep Trump in the negative news limelight and hold his poll numbers down if ever the DNC is to regain power!

link?

 

[shockedcanadian]

Last night, an insider NSA agent came forth with a shocking bit of news:

One thing they know from the hacks into the DNC which were the basis of the Russia-Trump allegations is the SPEED at which the data was removed, and the speed was TOO HIGH TO HAVE OCCURRED OVER THE INTERNET!

So, THE ONLY WAY THE DNC COULD HAVE BEEN HACKED was to have had A PERSON RIGHT THERE DOWNLOADING THE FILES STRAIGHT OFF THE COMPUTER!

Unless the Democrats had a russian agent working from the inside, this would seem to suggest the entire DNC Server Affair had to have been an INSIDE JOB.

When I have time tonight, I will try to provide additional details as they are made available.

So the whole Russia story has quietly disappeared from the news--- ---could this be why now the Medias have whipped up this global crisis about how Trump didn't give the preferred cathartic Pavlovian response to the riots in Charlottesville? Could it be that Trump is secretly a KKK member? Maybe we need a new investigation!

The funny thing is that through ALL THE YEARS as a public figure, through ALL THE YEARS as a television celebrity, NEVER in all of that time was Trump EVER accused of being a racist! Betcha it happens NOW!

Have to keep Trump in the negative news limelight and hold his poll numbers down if ever the DNC is to regain power!

I was thinking the same thing about the Russia investigation, not in regards to the methodology per se (though it had crossed my mind) but moreso, the media constantly looking to attack Trump and get something that "sticks" to him. Since the Russian probe has not bore any fruit, they need to go into the next most convenient direction, try and impact Trump voters, especially minority voters.

I also found it curious and having lived in a socialist country my entire life, I am sadly aware of real and potential cases of covert operations that were lead by agent provocateurs; that these radical nutjob, dirtbag supremists have publicly stated "we will not stop, we will keep going". This could easily be funded ad encouraged by those on the left looking to do harm to Trump. I am not a conspiracy guy by any means, but these tactics have been around since the dawn of time, most famously used by the Germans in their justification for attacking smaller nations. We even had police undercovers engaging in this type of stuff, something America would not stand for but quite prominent in Canada.

Consider the cases of people engaging in racist graffiti, calling in threats to places of worship and the like, many if not most were committed by people who were not members of these hate groups. One guy was revealed as a BLM member for Gods sake.

As was stated by other more critical thinkers, "why is the media even covering these racists and people like David Duke"? They are giving him a platform for a reason. They wouldn't give the same attention to let's say Reverend Jeremiah Wright, as it doesn't suit their narrative and they can't attach this to Trump. They are more then happy to cover some fringe nutjobs who Trump has never met, doesn't know, doesn't care for.

One final point, the lady who's daughter was killed and others injured needs to sue the city and any public official who ordered the police to stand down. It's one thing for the police to do their jobs and there are isolated incidents of harm beyond their control (as they can't pretend it all of course), quite another for them to have their hands tied behind their backs due to political interference.

 

[The Original Tree]

Last night, an insider NSA agent came forth with a shocking bit of news:

One thing they know from the hacks into the DNC which were the basis of the Russia-Trump allegations is the SPEED at which the data was removed, and the speed was TOO HIGH TO HAVE OCCURRED OVER THE INTERNET!

So, THE ONLY WAY THE DNC COULD HAVE BEEN HACKED was to have had A PERSON RIGHT THERE DOWNLOADING THE FILES STRAIGHT OFF THE COMPUTER!

Unless the Democrats had a russian agent working from the inside, this would seem to suggest the entire DNC Server Affair had to have been an INSIDE JOB.

When I have time tonight, I will try to provide additional details as they are made available.

So the whole Russia story has quietly disappeared from the news--- ---could this be why now the Medias have whipped up this global crisis about how Trump didn't give the preferred cathartic Pavlovian response to the riots in Charlottesville? Could it be that Trump is secretly a KKK member? Maybe we need a new investigation!

The funny thing is that through ALL THE YEARS as a public figure, through ALL THE YEARS as a television celebrity, NEVER in all of that time was Trump EVER accused of being a racist! Betcha it happens NOW!

Have to keep Trump in the negative news limelight and hold his poll numbers down if ever the DNC is to regain power!

The Russian Hacker was a PAKISTANI.
Not this PAKISTANI.....but he'll do for today.

 

[The Original Tree]

Last night, an insider NSA agent came forth with a shocking bit of news:

One thing they know from the hacks into the DNC which were the basis of the Russia-Trump allegations is the SPEED at which the data was removed, and the speed was TOO HIGH TO HAVE OCCURRED OVER THE INTERNET!

So, THE ONLY WAY THE DNC COULD HAVE BEEN HACKED was to have had A PERSON RIGHT THERE DOWNLOADING THE FILES STRAIGHT OFF THE COMPUTER!

Unless the Democrats had a russian agent working from the inside, this would seem to suggest the entire DNC Server Affair had to have been an INSIDE JOB.

When I have time tonight, I will try to provide additional details as they are made available.

So the whole Russia story has quietly disappeared from the news--- ---could this be why now the Medias have whipped up this global crisis about how Trump didn't give the preferred cathartic Pavlovian response to the riots in Charlottesville? Could it be that Trump is secretly a KKK member? Maybe we need a new investigation!

The funny thing is that through ALL THE YEARS as a public figure, through ALL THE YEARS as a television celebrity, NEVER in all of that time was Trump EVER accused of being a racist! Betcha it happens NOW!

Have to keep Trump in the negative news limelight and hold his poll numbers down if ever the DNC is to regain power!

link?

How many times are you guys on The Left going to ask for a Link to something that has been widely discussed in here? Your Russian Hackers were actually Pakistani Hackers with Criminal Records hacking in to Congressional Republican's files, as well as anything they could get on THE DNC SERVER. Somewhere along the line Seth Rich got involved when he discovered Schultz, Clinton & The DNC were rigging the primaries, he then uploaded whatever was given to him to Julian Assange.

The DNC hired Pakistani Hackers to dig dirt on Trump, Bernie Sanders, and any GOP Congressmen they could, and then Schultz took the Pakistani Cyber Criminal with her to THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN, and both SHE & CLINTON knew exactly who this guy was and what he was there to do.

Only what they didn't know is that he didn't give a fuck about politics or Clinton's campaign. He only cared about getting paid to get information, and he'd sell that to anyone to make a buck. And that's how THE DNC EMAILS as ugly as they were...got on Wikileaks.

DNC hackers are using leaked NSA tools to spy on hotel guests across Europe - CyberScoop
BOMBSHELL: NSA Experts Say DNC ‘Hack’ Was Actually a Leak and Inside Job
NSA Officials and Computer Expert: Forensic Evidence Proves DNC Emails Were LEAKED, Not Hacked | Zero Hedge
Russian Group That Hacked DNC Used NSA Attack Code In Attack On Hotels - Slashdot

 

[OldLady]

Last night, an insider NSA agent came forth with a shocking bit of news:

One thing they know from the hacks into the DNC which were the basis of the Russia-Trump allegations is the SPEED at which the data was removed, and the speed was TOO HIGH TO HAVE OCCURRED OVER THE INTERNET!

So, THE ONLY WAY THE DNC COULD HAVE BEEN HACKED was to have had A PERSON RIGHT THERE DOWNLOADING THE FILES STRAIGHT OFF THE COMPUTER!

Unless the Democrats had a russian agent working from the inside, this would seem to suggest the entire DNC Server Affair had to have been an INSIDE JOB.

When I have time tonight, I will try to provide additional details as they are made available.

So the whole Russia story has quietly disappeared from the news--- ---could this be why now the Medias have whipped up this global crisis about how Trump didn't give the preferred cathartic Pavlovian response to the riots in Charlottesville? Could it be that Trump is secretly a KKK member? Maybe we need a new investigation!

The funny thing is that through ALL THE YEARS as a public figure, through ALL THE YEARS as a television celebrity, NEVER in all of that time was Trump EVER accused of being a racist! Betcha it happens NOW!

Have to keep Trump in the negative news limelight and hold his poll numbers down if ever the DNC is to regain power!

link?

How many times are you guys on The Left going to ask for a Link to something that has been widely discussed in here? Your Russian Hackers were actually Pakistani Hackers with Criminal Records hacking in to Congressional Republican's files, as well as anything they could get on THE DNC SERVER. Somewhere along the line Seth Rich got involved when he discovered Schultz, Clinton & The DNC were rigging the primaries, he then uploaded whatever was given to him to Julian Assange.

The DNC hired Pakistani Hackers to dig dirt on Trump, Bernie Sanders, and any GOP Congressmen they could, and then Schultz took the Pakistani Cyber Criminal with her to THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN, and both SHE & CLINTON knew exactly who this guy was and what he was there to do.

Only what they didn't know is that he didn't give a fuck about politics or Clinton's campaign. He only cared about getting paid to get information, and he'd sell that to anyone to make a buck. And that's how THE DNC EMAILS as ugly as they were...got on Wikileaks.

DNC hackers are using leaked NSA tools to spy on hotel guests across Europe - CyberScoop
BOMBSHELL: NSA Experts Say DNC ‘Hack’ Was Actually a Leak and Inside Job
NSA Officials and Computer Expert: Forensic Evidence Proves DNC Emails Were LEAKED, Not Hacked | Zero Hedge
Russian Group That Hacked DNC Used NSA Attack Code In Attack On Hotels - Slashdot

Sorry, I don't read the conspiracy theory bullshit. I tried, but it's too confused, foggy and no dots connect.

 

[The Original Tree]

Last night, an insider NSA agent came forth with a shocking bit of news:

One thing they know from the hacks into the DNC which were the basis of the Russia-Trump allegations is the SPEED at which the data was removed, and the speed was TOO HIGH TO HAVE OCCURRED OVER THE INTERNET!

So, THE ONLY WAY THE DNC COULD HAVE BEEN HACKED was to have had A PERSON RIGHT THERE DOWNLOADING THE FILES STRAIGHT OFF THE COMPUTER!

Unless the Democrats had a russian agent working from the inside, this would seem to suggest the entire DNC Server Affair had to have been an INSIDE JOB.

When I have time tonight, I will try to provide additional details as they are made available.

So the whole Russia story has quietly disappeared from the news--- ---could this be why now the Medias have whipped up this global crisis about how Trump didn't give the preferred cathartic Pavlovian response to the riots in Charlottesville? Could it be that Trump is secretly a KKK member? Maybe we need a new investigation!

The funny thing is that through ALL THE YEARS as a public figure, through ALL THE YEARS as a television celebrity, NEVER in all of that time was Trump EVER accused of being a racist! Betcha it happens NOW!

Have to keep Trump in the negative news limelight and hold his poll numbers down if ever the DNC is to regain power!

link?

How many times are you guys on The Left going to ask for a Link to something that has been widely discussed in here? Your Russian Hackers were actually Pakistani Hackers with Criminal Records hacking in to Congressional Republican's files, as well as anything they could get on THE DNC SERVER. Somewhere along the line Seth Rich got involved when he discovered Schultz, Clinton & The DNC were rigging the primaries, he then uploaded whatever was given to him to Julian Assange.

The DNC hired Pakistani Hackers to dig dirt on Trump, Bernie Sanders, and any GOP Congressmen they could, and then Schultz took the Pakistani Cyber Criminal with her to THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN, and both SHE & CLINTON knew exactly who this guy was and what he was there to do.

Only what they didn't know is that he didn't give a fuck about politics or Clinton's campaign. He only cared about getting paid to get information, and he'd sell that to anyone to make a buck. And that's how THE DNC EMAILS as ugly as they were...got on Wikileaks.

DNC hackers are using leaked NSA tools to spy on hotel guests across Europe - CyberScoop
BOMBSHELL: NSA Experts Say DNC ‘Hack’ Was Actually a Leak and Inside Job
NSA Officials and Computer Expert: Forensic Evidence Proves DNC Emails Were LEAKED, Not Hacked | Zero Hedge
Russian Group That Hacked DNC Used NSA Attack Code In Attack On Hotels - Slashdot

Sorry, I don't read the conspiracy theory bullshit. I tried, but it's too confused, foggy and no dots connect.

No, you just don't read.

So Anonymous Sources on THE LEFT, repeatedly proven to BE LIARS, you believe....but this....YOU DON'T Believe. I work in IT, and it is credible.

And this NUMB NUTS, or should I say Bathroom Confused Leftist......is FROM A LEFT-WING MAGAZINE.

Eventually you fools are going to have to have a Come to Jesus moment and realize your party is a lying sack of shit and a pack of murderous thieving thugs.
Or maybe you know this, and happen to approve or False Accusations, Lying Narratives, Illegal Wiretapping, Illegal Leaking of Classified Intel, Illegal Unmasking,
Influence Peddling and Money Laundering of The Clinton Foundation, Perjury, Obstruction of Justice, Public Corruption....and Roaming Bands of ANTIFA THUGS PAID TO ASSAULT, INJURE, and KILL PEOPLE by THE DEMOCRAT PARTY AND GEORGE SOROS!

Look up one word for me miss crappy pants. METADATA


"The Nation‘s Patrick Lawrence wrote a lengthy review of the findings made by various computer experts formerly with the NSA. Published this week, the left-wing magazine’s report notes two bases for their conclusion: (1) hard science shows that a remote hack of the DNC servers resulting in the breach that actually occurred would have been technologically impossible; (2) forensic review of the initial Guccifer 2.0 documents proves that they are poorly-disguised cut-and-paste jobs–forgeries–intended to finger Russia."

BOMBSHELL: NSA Experts Say DNC ‘Hack’ Was Actually a Leak and Inside Job

METADATA is why THE DNC Refuses to let anyone see their server.

 

[The Original Tree]

THESE AREN'T ANONYMOUS SOURCES ASSHOLES!
READ AND WEEP AND IF YOU HAVE ANY INTEGRITY, APOLOGIZE TO AMERICA AND AMERICA'S PRESIDENT!

Lawrence, by way of the experts’ findings, concludes that the so-called “hack” was actually an inside job by someone with internal access to the DNC’s computer network. In other words, the DNC has (or had) a leak.

The report mostly relies on the work of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS), which was founded in 2003 in order to push back against the false claims of Iraqi WMD emanating from the second Bush White House. Despite mostly being ignored by the media so far, VIPS diligently set to work on unraveling the cocoon of misinformation surrounding Russiagate and the DNC hack narrative.

Four members of VIPS are currently concentrating on the task. They are: (1) William Binney, the NSA’s former technical leader who also designed many of the programs now in use by the agency; (2) Kirk Wiebe, a former senior analyst with the NSA’s SIGINT Automation Research Center; (3) Edward Loomis, the former technical director at the NSA’s Office of Signal Processing; and (4) Ray McGovern, former chief of the CIA’s Soviet Foreign Policy Branch.

First, VIPS noted, the NSA has the technical prowess to root out exactly what happened because their publicly known programs alone are capable of capturing any and all electronic transfers of data. As VIPS noted, “If NSA cannot produce such evidence—and quickly—this would probably mean it does not have any.”

“The metadata established several facts in this regard with granular precision: On the evening of July 5, 2016, 1,976 megabytes of data were downloaded from the DNC’s server. The operation took 87 seconds. This yields a transfer rate of 22.7 megabytes per second. These statistics are matters of record and essential to disproving the hack theory. No Internet service provider, such as a hacker would have had to use in mid-2016, was capable of downloading data at this speed.”

BOMBSHELL: NSA Experts Say DNC ‘Hack’ Was Actually a Leak and Inside Job

 

[g5000]

Last night, an insider NSA agent came forth with a shocking bit of news:

One thing they know from the hacks into the DNC which were the basis of the Russia-Trump allegations is the SPEED at which the data was removed, and the speed was TOO HIGH TO HAVE OCCURRED OVER THE INTERNET!

So, THE ONLY WAY THE DNC COULD HAVE BEEN HACKED was to have had A PERSON RIGHT THERE DOWNLOADING THE FILES STRAIGHT OFF THE COMPUTER!

Unless the Democrats had a russian agent working from the inside, this would seem to suggest the entire DNC Server Affair had to have been an INSIDE JOB.

When I have time tonight, I will try to provide additional details as they are made available.

So the whole Russia story has quietly disappeared from the news--- ---could this be why now the Medias have whipped up this global crisis about how Trump didn't give the preferred cathartic Pavlovian response to the riots in Charlottesville? Could it be that Trump is secretly a KKK member? Maybe we need a new investigation!

The funny thing is that through ALL THE YEARS as a public figure, through ALL THE YEARS as a television celebrity, NEVER in all of that time was Trump EVER accused of being a racist! Betcha it happens NOW!

Have to keep Trump in the negative news limelight and hold his poll numbers down if ever the DNC is to regain power!

This is such a breaking story, we've only been hearing the same bullshit from another tard on this forum for over a month.

 

[g5000]

Unless the Democrats had a russian agent working from the inside, this would seem to suggest the entire DNC Server Affair had to have been an INSIDE JOB.

Yes, it is entirely inconceivable there could be a commie inside the Democratic party...

You people are so retarded, you sound like schizophrenics. Seriously.

 

[Tom Horn]

Last night, an insider NSA agent came forth with a shocking bit of news:

One thing they know from the hacks into the DNC which were the basis of the Russia-Trump allegations is the SPEED at which the data was removed, and the speed was TOO HIGH TO HAVE OCCURRED OVER THE INTERNET!

So, THE ONLY WAY THE DNC COULD HAVE BEEN HACKED was to have had A PERSON RIGHT THERE DOWNLOADING THE FILES STRAIGHT OFF THE COMPUTER!

Unless the Democrats had a russian agent working from the inside, this would seem to suggest the entire DNC Server Affair had to have been an INSIDE JOB.

When I have time tonight, I will try to provide additional details as they are made available.

So the whole Russia story has quietly disappeared from the news--- ---could this be why now the Medias have whipped up this global crisis about how Trump didn't give the preferred cathartic Pavlovian response to the riots in Charlottesville? Could it be that Trump is secretly a KKK member? Maybe we need a new investigation!

The funny thing is that through ALL THE YEARS as a public figure, through ALL THE YEARS as a television celebrity, NEVER in all of that time was Trump EVER accused of being a racist! Betcha it happens NOW!

Have to keep Trump in the negative news limelight and hold his poll numbers down if ever the DNC is to regain power!

I posted about this two weeks ago when it was first discovered. There was no hack by Russia or anybody else which is why the DNC refused, and still refuses to turn over that server in it's original state. Seth Rich phished Podesta and the Clintons had him executed....There were over 20 CC cameras active in the area that night and the DC police won't turn over the footage....we were 77,000 votes away from a communist takeover.

 

[mamooth]

THESE AREN'T ANONYMOUS SOURCES ASSHOLES!

But they are hilariously stupid and technically incompetent sources.

Hence, the reason nobody pays attention to their bizarre rants There's no conspiracy against you. You're just copying conspiracy nuttiness from babbling idiots that nobody cares about.

 

[toobfreak]

I was thinking the same thing about the Russia investigation, not in regards to the methodology per se (though it had crossed my mind) but moreso, the media constantly looking to attack Trump and get something that "sticks" to him. Since the Russian probe has not bore any fruit, they need to go into the next most convenient direction, try and impact Trump voters, especially minority voters.

I also found it curious and having lived in a socialist country my entire life, I am sadly aware of real and potential cases of covert operations that were lead by agent provocateurs; that these radical nutjob, dirtbag supremists have publicly stated "we will not stop, we will keep going". This could easily be funded ad encouraged by those on the left looking to do harm to Trump. I am not a conspiracy guy by any means, but these tactics have been around since the dawn of time, most famously used by the Germans in their justification for attacking smaller nations. We even had police undercovers engaging in this type of stuff, something America would not stand for but quite prominent in Canada.

Well, I wouldn't go so far as to claim the Nazi group was staged but I don't find it hard to believe the protesters were organized to turn it into a mess and that the police were told to back off and just let it go.

• Back in the day when the Primaries were in the news and several violent clashes happened at Trump rallies (and the Media were trying to build it up as being provoked by Trump and his followers as violent), it was in the news several times that these people were actually put up to it (paid) through an organization with ties to Hillary's campaign, and even the name of the outfit was known. Why wasn't that ever followed up? Had Trump been found to be doing that he would have been thrown out of the race! (By no less than the GOP!).
• During the Baltimore riots and perhaps elsewhere, it was documented that the police were told to stand back out of the way.

So, is it really incredulous that this rally was seen an an opportunity and the protesters here were ORGANIZED to provoke a major fight and that the police were told not to get too involved? Just saying---- it has happened before.

But can the girl's parents sue the city? No. Culpable negligence would be hard to prove. The City does not provide a GUARANTEE of safety, much less at a Nazi rally. But since an actor has been arrested who directly caused the girl's death, all claims will have to be against him and his family.

The irony in all of this is that this was a pretty common event. Nazi and Aryan groups are all over and nothing new. They have rallies all the time. In this case, ONE person was killed and by ONE individual. How many people are killed in Chicago? Someone is shot there every three hours! So why has this been built into a White Supremacist thing? A global media event where Angela Merkel is weighing in? Why does the Media keep trying to tie President Trump to David Duke when years ago, he heavily denounced him? Why is the Media now trying to lambast Trump because he did not single out the Nazi group as the SOLE CAUSE of the violence even before all the facts had been gathered, but rather siting all involved which is obviously the case?

Is it any wonder Trump is reticent when he knows his every word is used against him, and if he says little or nothing, then his SILENCE is used against him! All part of the fake news because the Left Wing doesn't have anything real to go after Trump on. When you can't win on your own merits, all you have left is to try to make the other side look worse.

Hillary and the DNC tried to win an election last year based on fake news and it blew up in their face, so twice is the charm? Trump's supporters don't get their facts through the MSM, and by the time 2020 rolls around, Trump's continued successes combined with the continued patterns of outrageous lies and abuse by the Left will be likely again widely known to most.

Oh, and just last night, Elizabeth Warren proudly announced that SHE is the HEART and SOUL of the Democratic Party!!!!!

 

[there4eyeM]

This all does not sound the same as an ideological difference, but the struggle of two political parties to monopolize power. It isn't 'left' vs 'right', it is the two party dictatorship having an internal struggle.

 

[shockedcanadian]

I was thinking the same thing about the Russia investigation, not in regards to the methodology per se (though it had crossed my mind) but moreso, the media constantly looking to attack Trump and get something that "sticks" to him. Since the Russian probe has not bore any fruit, they need to go into the next most convenient direction, try and impact Trump voters, especially minority voters.

I also found it curious and having lived in a socialist country my entire life, I am sadly aware of real and potential cases of covert operations that were lead by agent provocateurs; that these radical nutjob, dirtbag supremists have publicly stated "we will not stop, we will keep going". This could easily be funded ad encouraged by those on the left looking to do harm to Trump. I am not a conspiracy guy by any means, but these tactics have been around since the dawn of time, most famously used by the Germans in their justification for attacking smaller nations. We even had police undercovers engaging in this type of stuff, something America would not stand for but quite prominent in Canada.

Well, I wouldn't go so far as to claim the Nazi group was staged but I don't find it hard to believe the protesters were organized to turn it into a mess and that the police were told to back off and just let it go.

• Back in the day when the Primaries were in the news and several violent clashes happened at Trump rallies (and the Media were trying to build it up as being provoked by Trump and his followers as violent), it was in the news several times that these people were actually put up to it (paid) through an organization with ties to Hillary's campaign, and even the name of the outfit was known. Why wasn't that ever followed up? Had Trump been found to be doing that he would have been thrown out of the race! (By no less than the GOP!).
• During the Baltimore riots and perhaps elsewhere, it was documented that the police were told to stand back out of the way.

So, is it really incredulous that this rally was seen an an opportunity and the protesters here were ORGANIZED to provoke a major fight and that the police were told not to get too involved? Just saying---- it has happened before.

But can the girl's parents sue the city? No. Culpable negligence would be hard to prove. The City does not provide a GUARANTEE of safety, much less at a Nazi rally. But since an actor has been arrested who directly caused the girl's death, all claims will have to be against him and his family.

The irony in all of this is that this was a pretty common event. Nazi and Aryan groups are all over and nothing new. They have rallies all the time. In this case, ONE person was killed and by ONE individual. How many people are killed in Chicago? Someone is shot there every three hours! So why has this been built into a White Supremacist thing? A global media event where Angela Merkel is weighing in? Why does the Media keep trying to tie President Trump to David Duke when years ago, he heavily denounced him? Why is the Media now trying to lambast Trump because he did not single out the Nazi group as the SOLE CAUSE of the violence even before all the facts had been gathered, but rather siting all involved which is obviously the case?

Is it any wonder Trump is reticent when he knows his every word is used against him, and if he says little or nothing, then his SILENCE is used against him! All part of the fake news because the Left Wing doesn't have anything real to go after Trump on. When you can't win on your own merits, all you have left is to try to make the other side look worse.

Hillary and the DNC tried to win an election last year based on fake news and it blew up in their face, so twice is the charm? Trump's supporters don't get their facts through the MSM, and by the time 2020 rolls around, Trump's continued successes combined with the continued patterns of outrageous lies and abuse by the Left will be likely again widely known to most.

Oh, and just last night, Elizabeth Warren proudly announced that SHE is the HEART and SOUL of the Democratic Party!!!!!

I'm not suggesting it was staged, but you have to be careful about becoming like Canada, where we have agencies like CSIS and the RCMP, among other police forces, that are nothing more than agent provocateurs in many communities.

What is eerie about this case, is that in the 1980's, we had a group called the Heritage Front working in Canada. A racist, neo-nazi group that was being funded and the second in charge of the group was a CSIS agent! In one particular "rally" by these racists, they were met by anti-racists outside of a bar called Sneaky Dees in Toronto. An anti-racist person was killed. Without question, though not directly involved in the murder, there is bloood on the states hands for this.

Noone knew until years later just how much CSIS was doing behind the scenes, a brave Toronto Sun reporter blew the story. The tactics they used included making crank calls to the Jewish community in which they harassed and threatened them. Again, all under the guidance of a man named Grant Bristow a well paid CSIS agent, second in command of this group, organizer and general leader of these tactics.

The RCMP, OPP and TPS all have similar tactics meant to "play the game" and build their budgets. All of society loses, especially our democracy and rights. I know first hand how this works, as I am a victim of the abuses by our apparatus even as I work very hard to expose Canadian tactics against U.S businesses. Since there are little consequences, they continue. Which is why I quickly learned that I would receive little support domestically, so best to go to those most affected and who can in fact address this harm: The U.S Government.
I have gone so far as to offer to provide evidence, a polygraph exam and I welcomed the heads of the RCMP and their surrogates to do the same. I communicated with U.S law enforcement some names and details already, I have nothing to hide, you can be sure of this. I digress....

So, noone needs to stage anything, without question there were rallies and some angry citizens with deepyl conflicted ideologies on both sides. However, all you need is someone with a motive behind the scenes basically "whispering in their ears". Spreading hatred, going after young, angry men who are looking for a scapegoat. Then when mayhem occurs you point the finger at the Right, and some take it a step further and blame the president! It's disgusting, but not out of the realm of possibility when there are so many motivated to unglue America as the ship is trying to be righted. Look no further than the year long Russian witch hunt.

 

[TheDude]

Last night, an insider NSA agent came forth with a shocking bit of news:

One thing they know from the hacks into the DNC which were the basis of the Russia-Trump allegations is the SPEED at which the data was removed, and the speed was TOO HIGH TO HAVE OCCURRED OVER THE INTERNET!

So, THE ONLY WAY THE DNC COULD HAVE BEEN HACKED was to have had A PERSON RIGHT THERE DOWNLOADING THE FILES STRAIGHT OFF THE COMPUTER!

Unless the Democrats had a russian agent working from the inside, this would seem to suggest the entire DNC Server Affair had to have been an INSIDE JOB.

When I have time tonight, I will try to provide additional details as they are made available.

So the whole Russia story has quietly disappeared from the news--- ---could this be why now the Medias have whipped up this global crisis about how Trump didn't give the preferred cathartic Pavlovian response to the riots in Charlottesville? Could it be that Trump is secretly a KKK member? Maybe we need a new investigation!

The funny thing is that through ALL THE YEARS as a public figure, through ALL THE YEARS as a television celebrity, NEVER in all of that time was Trump EVER accused of being a racist! Betcha it happens NOW!

Have to keep Trump in the negative news limelight and hold his poll numbers down if ever the DNC is to regain power!

I saw that too. Interesting times. BTW, he was declared racist the day he won the Republican ticket.