Black Communities Ravaged by COVID-19. Black Churches Still Meeting.

You decided to bring race into an issue that had nothing to do with race.

Good riddance. I have stated that black churches need to close. I just find it ironic how you decided to post about black churches. Black churches are churches just like white churches, so any church that is still holding services should not be and is putting the people in their community in jeopardy. You're a hypocrite sue, that's why I am on you. You are a self righteous racist, homophobic, xenophobic, anti life piece of garbage that hides behind the bible to justify your bigotry. Then when you get called on it, you want to try gaslighting people again trying to use god. So understand this, all of us are capable of determining how god has thought on things because he gives us that power to seek and to question him. So me saying this virus is a punishment on people such as you for your unrepentant ways is based on the requirements taught in the bible itself.

So you better get right, because at this point you are a Pharisee and Pharisees are not in good standing with the lord. And that's according to the lord himself, not me.
Ingrates like SweetSue92 are heathens, and will be spewed out when He returns. He will say to them, "I do not know you."

Moreover, they will be punished more severely for FALSELY using the Bible for their own nefarious and evil earthly purposes.

Too bad you and IM2 have to share the Judgment Seat of Christ. Must be hard on you, huh?
 
And yet, AMAZINGLY, White Leftist Shamers on USMB are silent about it and we don't see any Black Pastors being arrested on television. We have fat crocodile tears about the "mega churches". (Black churches are never "mega churches" for some reason.)

I wonder why that is, any ideas?

When deciding to close the doors of black churches, congregational leaders across the US wrestle with unique considerations. Paul J. James, pastor of CareView Community Church in Lansdowne, Pennsylvania, noted in an interview with The Undefeated how closing is “counterintuitive to most churches, especially the black church… where we’re just glad to get together because of how hard life has been historically for us here in America. Church has been a safe place for us. It’s been a safe harbor. Now here we are faced with the inability to come together.”

Last week, the federal government strongly urged Americans not to gather in groups of more than 10, and restrictions keep coming. We suspect that many churches will close in the near future, but the decision will not been easy.

In St. Louis, the mayor hosted a teleconference with 300 clergy, including many of black churches, to urge them not to hold services. While some chose to stop meetings and modify their ministries, others struggled to make the change.

In Michigan, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer banned gatherings of more than 50 but then exempted churches from penalties. This will give some churches more options, though many are choosing to modify in some way. Triumph Church, which has seven locations in the Detroit area, will continue to gather in person, for now, though it expanded the number of services to reduce congregation size and is asking members to register ahead of time so it can maintain at least six feet between worshippers. It is also providing an online service and a drive-in service.

A lot of things inform these responses to the coronavirus outbreak: culture, histories of discrimination, and marginalization, as well as faith-based values. People experience events like COVID-19 not only as individuals but also in communities and in the social locations we inhabit. As social scientists—Deidra as a black woman doing research on HPV and Elaine as a white woman who studies how religious organizations respond to science—we offer some observations based on our research for the past 10 years at the Religion and Public Life Program at Rice University. We have been gathering upwards of 150 religious and civic leaders regularly to talk about how we can use social science research on religion to build common ground for the common good.

Drop the white victimhood lady. There are black mega churches. And apparently blacks in Florida aren't holding services in churches. And its always funny when a republican like you suddenly gets so concerned about blacks only after somebody white gets arrested for something that you can't see blacks getting arrested for.

Nobody black will be calling COVID19 a racist disease. But that's how you racists see black people. Normal non racist whites would not make that kind of comment.

Black churches need to close just like everybody else. But what you really need to do Sue is work on ending the racism in the white community that has you posting this instead of whining "what about black pastors, why don't they get arrested."
Why must there still be ‘black’ churches and why does everyone have to accept that without question?

Why are there black churches? Could it be because black folks couldn't attend the white ones. Duh.

Don't hurt em with documented history like that Superbad. They want to live with amnesia in peace.
And who is stopping them now? No one. Just because blacks refuse to integrate doesn’t mean non-blacks are segregationist. You have it completely on the wrong foot.
What's stopping whites from attending black churches? Answer that one.
The same thing that stops any assimilated American regardless of skin color.

Wrong. You want to make it like blacks are the racists when everything about the black relationship with whites is due to our response to white racism. That's why black churches exist, it is why black organizations exist, etc. We did not create the exclusion, whites did. There is no assimilation into white culture, there is a creation of a multi cultural nation that is inclusive.
If it was still 1965 you’d have a point.
But just as with so many other issues, the messenger becomes bigger than the message and must perpetuate and amplify a mostly non-existent problem in order to justify their existence.

Ok let's start from scratch here. Black folks were NOT ALLOWED to attend White churches up until the late 60s, so black folks had to create their OWN places of worship. After integration are you saying that we were suppose to just shut down ALL the black churches and go worship at white churches.
55 years is a long time. And you don’t have to shut black churches. Just encourage assimilation. But that would undermine the existence of the NAACP’s of the world.

So why don't whites assimilate to Black Churches if it's that easy.
You mean why don’t assimilated people become black? Black culture segregates itself in the name of perceived blackness and transcends geography. It’s rooted in skin color. Assimilated people reflect the culture of their region. Most are white but the skin color isn’t the predicate.
You have the shoe on the wrong foot.

Didn't answer the question, why haven't white folks started attending black churches. There is no ban of white folks in black churches so your analogy makes no sense.
Because they don’t identify with a self-segregating culture that defines itself by a different and specific skin color. It’s a foreign country. Africa America.

I guess that explains Irish-Americans, Italian-Americans, German-Americans, Polish-Americans, etc.
And they’ve all assimilated and speak the dialect of the region. Segregationist blacks speak the same dialect regardless of region. That puts it in perspective.

You are avoiding the question. Why haven't whites assimilated to black churches?
Because Whites don't want to go to negro churches.
They are concerned their car will get stripped while they are in church.

Negro churches, get their car stripped. Well at least you don't hide your racism.
'racism' spelled backward is: 'telling the truth'.
Yesterday there were SB churches packed with 100% negroes.
Their preachers have told their parishioners that "black folks can't catch the virus".
If you are an obese negro over sixty with diabetes or prediabetes your chances of contracting the virus is close to 100%.
Already 'Rev' Sharpton said yesterday that "blacks are disproportionately more likely to catch the virus than other races".
He was paving the way to attack 'Whitey' again for all the problems the 'plantation DEMs' have.
Sharpton and the homophobe Joy Reid ought to be telling negroes to stay out of the packed churches and for fuck sake STOP EATING SUGAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
And yet, AMAZINGLY, White Leftist Shamers on USMB are silent about it and we don't see any Black Pastors being arrested on television. We have fat crocodile tears about the "mega churches". (Black churches are never "mega churches" for some reason.)

I wonder why that is, any ideas?

When deciding to close the doors of black churches, congregational leaders across the US wrestle with unique considerations. Paul J. James, pastor of CareView Community Church in Lansdowne, Pennsylvania, noted in an interview with The Undefeated how closing is “counterintuitive to most churches, especially the black church… where we’re just glad to get together because of how hard life has been historically for us here in America. Church has been a safe place for us. It’s been a safe harbor. Now here we are faced with the inability to come together.”

Last week, the federal government strongly urged Americans not to gather in groups of more than 10, and restrictions keep coming. We suspect that many churches will close in the near future, but the decision will not been easy.

In St. Louis, the mayor hosted a teleconference with 300 clergy, including many of black churches, to urge them not to hold services. While some chose to stop meetings and modify their ministries, others struggled to make the change.

In Michigan, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer banned gatherings of more than 50 but then exempted churches from penalties. This will give some churches more options, though many are choosing to modify in some way. Triumph Church, which has seven locations in the Detroit area, will continue to gather in person, for now, though it expanded the number of services to reduce congregation size and is asking members to register ahead of time so it can maintain at least six feet between worshippers. It is also providing an online service and a drive-in service.

A lot of things inform these responses to the coronavirus outbreak: culture, histories of discrimination, and marginalization, as well as faith-based values. People experience events like COVID-19 not only as individuals but also in communities and in the social locations we inhabit. As social scientists—Deidra as a black woman doing research on HPV and Elaine as a white woman who studies how religious organizations respond to science—we offer some observations based on our research for the past 10 years at the Religion and Public Life Program at Rice University. We have been gathering upwards of 150 religious and civic leaders regularly to talk about how we can use social science research on religion to build common ground for the common good.

Drop the white victimhood lady. There are black mega churches. And apparently blacks in Florida aren't holding services in churches. And its always funny when a republican like you suddenly gets so concerned about blacks only after somebody white gets arrested for something that you can't see blacks getting arrested for.

Nobody black will be calling COVID19 a racist disease. But that's how you racists see black people. Normal non racist whites would not make that kind of comment.

Black churches need to close just like everybody else. But what you really need to do Sue is work on ending the racism in the white community that has you posting this instead of whining "what about black pastors, why don't they get arrested."
Why must there still be ‘black’ churches and why does everyone have to accept that without question?

Why are there black churches? Could it be because black folks couldn't attend the white ones. Duh.

Don't hurt em with documented history like that Superbad. They want to live with amnesia in peace.
And who is stopping them now? No one. Just because blacks refuse to integrate doesn’t mean non-blacks are segregationist. You have it completely on the wrong foot.
What's stopping whites from attending black churches? Answer that one.
The same thing that stops any assimilated American regardless of skin color.

Wrong. You want to make it like blacks are the racists when everything about the black relationship with whites is due to our response to white racism. That's why black churches exist, it is why black organizations exist, etc. We did not create the exclusion, whites did. There is no assimilation into white culture, there is a creation of a multi cultural nation that is inclusive.
If it was still 1965 you’d have a point.
But just as with so many other issues, the messenger becomes bigger than the message and must perpetuate and amplify a mostly non-existent problem in order to justify their existence.

Ok let's start from scratch here. Black folks were NOT ALLOWED to attend White churches up until the late 60s, so black folks had to create their OWN places of worship. After integration are you saying that we were suppose to just shut down ALL the black churches and go worship at white churches.
55 years is a long time. And you don’t have to shut black churches. Just encourage assimilation. But that would undermine the existence of the NAACP’s of the world.

So why don't whites assimilate to Black Churches if it's that easy.
You mean why don’t assimilated people become black? Black culture segregates itself in the name of perceived blackness and transcends geography. It’s rooted in skin color. Assimilated people reflect the culture of their region. Most are white but the skin color isn’t the predicate.
You have the shoe on the wrong foot.

Didn't answer the question, why haven't white folks started attending black churches. There is no ban of white folks in black churches so your analogy makes no sense.
Because they don’t identify with a self-segregating culture that defines itself by a different and specific skin color. It’s a foreign country. Africa America.

I guess that explains Irish-Americans, Italian-Americans, German-Americans, Polish-Americans, etc.
And they’ve all assimilated and speak the dialect of the region. Segregationist blacks speak the same dialect regardless of region. That puts it in perspective.

You are avoiding the question. Why haven't whites assimilated to black churches?
The last thing you want is for whites to be like blacks. Do you really want white mobs beating down black people?

Because that's how you think of blacks, as people who form mobs and beat people?
It happens all the time.
All the time? Yeah, not an accurate description, I don't think.
Here is a mob beating from today. Like i said, its very common.


I wouldn't call 3 15-year-old girls a mob. :dunno:

Also, while the girl in the picture appears to be black, there's no indication of the other 2 involved in the assault.

Mob attacks happen, sure. I still question your use of the phrase "all the time," though.
That's right the negro girl on surveillance was hanging with two White girls when they decided to attack a fourteen year old Asian girl.
You really are a fucking idiot!
 
And yet, AMAZINGLY, White Leftist Shamers on USMB are silent about it and we don't see any Black Pastors being arrested on television. We have fat crocodile tears about the "mega churches". (Black churches are never "mega churches" for some reason.)

I wonder why that is, any ideas?

When deciding to close the doors of black churches, congregational leaders across the US wrestle with unique considerations. Paul J. James, pastor of CareView Community Church in Lansdowne, Pennsylvania, noted in an interview with The Undefeated how closing is “counterintuitive to most churches, especially the black church… where we’re just glad to get together because of how hard life has been historically for us here in America. Church has been a safe place for us. It’s been a safe harbor. Now here we are faced with the inability to come together.”

Last week, the federal government strongly urged Americans not to gather in groups of more than 10, and restrictions keep coming. We suspect that many churches will close in the near future, but the decision will not been easy.

In St. Louis, the mayor hosted a teleconference with 300 clergy, including many of black churches, to urge them not to hold services. While some chose to stop meetings and modify their ministries, others struggled to make the change.

In Michigan, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer banned gatherings of more than 50 but then exempted churches from penalties. This will give some churches more options, though many are choosing to modify in some way. Triumph Church, which has seven locations in the Detroit area, will continue to gather in person, for now, though it expanded the number of services to reduce congregation size and is asking members to register ahead of time so it can maintain at least six feet between worshippers. It is also providing an online service and a drive-in service.

A lot of things inform these responses to the coronavirus outbreak: culture, histories of discrimination, and marginalization, as well as faith-based values. People experience events like COVID-19 not only as individuals but also in communities and in the social locations we inhabit. As social scientists—Deidra as a black woman doing research on HPV and Elaine as a white woman who studies how religious organizations respond to science—we offer some observations based on our research for the past 10 years at the Religion and Public Life Program at Rice University. We have been gathering upwards of 150 religious and civic leaders regularly to talk about how we can use social science research on religion to build common ground for the common good.

Drop the white victimhood lady. There are black mega churches. And apparently blacks in Florida aren't holding services in churches. And its always funny when a republican like you suddenly gets so concerned about blacks only after somebody white gets arrested for something that you can't see blacks getting arrested for.

Nobody black will be calling COVID19 a racist disease. But that's how you racists see black people. Normal non racist whites would not make that kind of comment.

Black churches need to close just like everybody else. But what you really need to do Sue is work on ending the racism in the white community that has you posting this instead of whining "what about black pastors, why don't they get arrested."
Why must there still be ‘black’ churches and why does everyone have to accept that without question?

Why are there black churches? Could it be because black folks couldn't attend the white ones. Duh.

Don't hurt em with documented history like that Superbad. They want to live with amnesia in peace.
And who is stopping them now? No one. Just because blacks refuse to integrate doesn’t mean non-blacks are segregationist. You have it completely on the wrong foot.
What's stopping whites from attending black churches? Answer that one.
The same thing that stops any assimilated American regardless of skin color.

Wrong. You want to make it like blacks are the racists when everything about the black relationship with whites is due to our response to white racism. That's why black churches exist, it is why black organizations exist, etc. We did not create the exclusion, whites did. There is no assimilation into white culture, there is a creation of a multi cultural nation that is inclusive.
If it was still 1965 you’d have a point.
But just as with so many other issues, the messenger becomes bigger than the message and must perpetuate and amplify a mostly non-existent problem in order to justify their existence.

Ok let's start from scratch here. Black folks were NOT ALLOWED to attend White churches up until the late 60s, so black folks had to create their OWN places of worship. After integration are you saying that we were suppose to just shut down ALL the black churches and go worship at white churches.
55 years is a long time. And you don’t have to shut black churches. Just encourage assimilation. But that would undermine the existence of the NAACP’s of the world.

So why don't whites assimilate to Black Churches if it's that easy.
You mean why don’t assimilated people become black? Black culture segregates itself in the name of perceived blackness and transcends geography. It’s rooted in skin color. Assimilated people reflect the culture of their region. Most are white but the skin color isn’t the predicate.
You have the shoe on the wrong foot.

Didn't answer the question, why haven't white folks started attending black churches. There is no ban of white folks in black churches so your analogy makes no sense.
Because they don’t identify with a self-segregating culture that defines itself by a different and specific skin color. It’s a foreign country. Africa America.

I guess that explains Irish-Americans, Italian-Americans, German-Americans, Polish-Americans, etc.
And they’ve all assimilated and speak the dialect of the region. Segregationist blacks speak the same dialect regardless of region. That puts it in perspective.

You are avoiding the question. Why haven't whites assimilated to black churches?
The last thing you want is for whites to be like blacks. Do you really want white mobs beating down black people?

Because that's how you think of blacks, as people who form mobs and beat people?
It happens all the time.
All the time? Yeah, not an accurate description, I don't think.
Here is a mob beating from today. Like i said, its very common.


I wouldn't call 3 15-year-old girls a mob. :dunno:

Also, while the girl in the picture appears to be black, there's no indication of the other 2 involved in the assault.

Mob attacks happen, sure. I still question your use of the phrase "all the time," though.
Would you feel better if i said it is VERY common?

I'd feel better if I knew just how often you think it happens that mobs of black people beat others. As it is, I don't know if you'd consider once a day or once a month very common. :p
How often does a "mob" of White people attack a negro?
 
And yet, AMAZINGLY, White Leftist Shamers on USMB are silent about it and we don't see any Black Pastors being arrested on television. We have fat crocodile tears about the "mega churches". (Black churches are never "mega churches" for some reason.)

I wonder why that is, any ideas?

When deciding to close the doors of black churches, congregational leaders across the US wrestle with unique considerations. Paul J. James, pastor of CareView Community Church in Lansdowne, Pennsylvania, noted in an interview with The Undefeated how closing is “counterintuitive to most churches, especially the black church… where we’re just glad to get together because of how hard life has been historically for us here in America. Church has been a safe place for us. It’s been a safe harbor. Now here we are faced with the inability to come together.”

Last week, the federal government strongly urged Americans not to gather in groups of more than 10, and restrictions keep coming. We suspect that many churches will close in the near future, but the decision will not been easy.

In St. Louis, the mayor hosted a teleconference with 300 clergy, including many of black churches, to urge them not to hold services. While some chose to stop meetings and modify their ministries, others struggled to make the change.

In Michigan, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer banned gatherings of more than 50 but then exempted churches from penalties. This will give some churches more options, though many are choosing to modify in some way. Triumph Church, which has seven locations in the Detroit area, will continue to gather in person, for now, though it expanded the number of services to reduce congregation size and is asking members to register ahead of time so it can maintain at least six feet between worshippers. It is also providing an online service and a drive-in service.

A lot of things inform these responses to the coronavirus outbreak: culture, histories of discrimination, and marginalization, as well as faith-based values. People experience events like COVID-19 not only as individuals but also in communities and in the social locations we inhabit. As social scientists—Deidra as a black woman doing research on HPV and Elaine as a white woman who studies how religious organizations respond to science—we offer some observations based on our research for the past 10 years at the Religion and Public Life Program at Rice University. We have been gathering upwards of 150 religious and civic leaders regularly to talk about how we can use social science research on religion to build common ground for the common good.

Drop the white victimhood lady. There are black mega churches. And apparently blacks in Florida aren't holding services in churches. And its always funny when a republican like you suddenly gets so concerned about blacks only after somebody white gets arrested for something that you can't see blacks getting arrested for.

Nobody black will be calling COVID19 a racist disease. But that's how you racists see black people. Normal non racist whites would not make that kind of comment.

Black churches need to close just like everybody else. But what you really need to do Sue is work on ending the racism in the white community that has you posting this instead of whining "what about black pastors, why don't they get arrested."
Why must there still be ‘black’ churches and why does everyone have to accept that without question?

Why are there black churches? Could it be because black folks couldn't attend the white ones. Duh.

Don't hurt em with documented history like that Superbad. They want to live with amnesia in peace.
And who is stopping them now? No one. Just because blacks refuse to integrate doesn’t mean non-blacks are segregationist. You have it completely on the wrong foot.
What's stopping whites from attending black churches? Answer that one.
The same thing that stops any assimilated American regardless of skin color.

Wrong. You want to make it like blacks are the racists when everything about the black relationship with whites is due to our response to white racism. That's why black churches exist, it is why black organizations exist, etc. We did not create the exclusion, whites did. There is no assimilation into white culture, there is a creation of a multi cultural nation that is inclusive.
If it was still 1965 you’d have a point.
But just as with so many other issues, the messenger becomes bigger than the message and must perpetuate and amplify a mostly non-existent problem in order to justify their existence.

Ok let's start from scratch here. Black folks were NOT ALLOWED to attend White churches up until the late 60s, so black folks had to create their OWN places of worship. After integration are you saying that we were suppose to just shut down ALL the black churches and go worship at white churches.
55 years is a long time. And you don’t have to shut black churches. Just encourage assimilation. But that would undermine the existence of the NAACP’s of the world.

So why don't whites assimilate to Black Churches if it's that easy.
You mean why don’t assimilated people become black? Black culture segregates itself in the name of perceived blackness and transcends geography. It’s rooted in skin color. Assimilated people reflect the culture of their region. Most are white but the skin color isn’t the predicate.
You have the shoe on the wrong foot.

Didn't answer the question, why haven't white folks started attending black churches. There is no ban of white folks in black churches so your analogy makes no sense.
Because they don’t identify with a self-segregating culture that defines itself by a different and specific skin color. It’s a foreign country. Africa America.

I guess that explains Irish-Americans, Italian-Americans, German-Americans, Polish-Americans, etc.
And they’ve all assimilated and speak the dialect of the region. Segregationist blacks speak the same dialect regardless of region. That puts it in perspective.

You are avoiding the question. Why haven't whites assimilated to black churches?
Because Whites don't want to go to negro churches.
They are concerned their car will get stripped while they are in church.

Negro churches, get their car stripped. Well at least you don't hide your racism.
'racism' spelled backward is: 'telling the truth'.
Yesterday there were SB churches packed with 100% negroes.
Their preachers have told their parishioners that "black folks can't catch the virus".
If you are an obese negro over sixty with diabetes or prediabetes your chances of contracting the virus is close to 100%.
Already 'Rev' Sharpton said yesterday that "blacks are disproportionately more likely to catch the virus than other races".
He was paving the way to attack 'Whitey' again for all the problems the 'plantation DEMs' have.
Sharpton and the homophobe Joy Reid ought to be telling negroes to stay out of the packed churches and for fuck sake STOP EATING SUGAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cant fix stupid
 
And yet, AMAZINGLY, White Leftist Shamers on USMB are silent about it and we don't see any Black Pastors being arrested on television. We have fat crocodile tears about the "mega churches". (Black churches are never "mega churches" for some reason.)

I wonder why that is, any ideas?

When deciding to close the doors of black churches, congregational leaders across the US wrestle with unique considerations. Paul J. James, pastor of CareView Community Church in Lansdowne, Pennsylvania, noted in an interview with The Undefeated how closing is “counterintuitive to most churches, especially the black church… where we’re just glad to get together because of how hard life has been historically for us here in America. Church has been a safe place for us. It’s been a safe harbor. Now here we are faced with the inability to come together.”

Last week, the federal government strongly urged Americans not to gather in groups of more than 10, and restrictions keep coming. We suspect that many churches will close in the near future, but the decision will not been easy.

In St. Louis, the mayor hosted a teleconference with 300 clergy, including many of black churches, to urge them not to hold services. While some chose to stop meetings and modify their ministries, others struggled to make the change.

In Michigan, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer banned gatherings of more than 50 but then exempted churches from penalties. This will give some churches more options, though many are choosing to modify in some way. Triumph Church, which has seven locations in the Detroit area, will continue to gather in person, for now, though it expanded the number of services to reduce congregation size and is asking members to register ahead of time so it can maintain at least six feet between worshippers. It is also providing an online service and a drive-in service.

A lot of things inform these responses to the coronavirus outbreak: culture, histories of discrimination, and marginalization, as well as faith-based values. People experience events like COVID-19 not only as individuals but also in communities and in the social locations we inhabit. As social scientists—Deidra as a black woman doing research on HPV and Elaine as a white woman who studies how religious organizations respond to science—we offer some observations based on our research for the past 10 years at the Religion and Public Life Program at Rice University. We have been gathering upwards of 150 religious and civic leaders regularly to talk about how we can use social science research on religion to build common ground for the common good.

Drop the white victimhood lady. There are black mega churches. And apparently blacks in Florida aren't holding services in churches. And its always funny when a republican like you suddenly gets so concerned about blacks only after somebody white gets arrested for something that you can't see blacks getting arrested for.

Nobody black will be calling COVID19 a racist disease. But that's how you racists see black people. Normal non racist whites would not make that kind of comment.

Black churches need to close just like everybody else. But what you really need to do Sue is work on ending the racism in the white community that has you posting this instead of whining "what about black pastors, why don't they get arrested."
Why must there still be ‘black’ churches and why does everyone have to accept that without question?

Why are there black churches? Could it be because black folks couldn't attend the white ones. Duh.

Don't hurt em with documented history like that Superbad. They want to live with amnesia in peace.
And who is stopping them now? No one. Just because blacks refuse to integrate doesn’t mean non-blacks are segregationist. You have it completely on the wrong foot.
What's stopping whites from attending black churches? Answer that one.
The same thing that stops any assimilated American regardless of skin color.

Wrong. You want to make it like blacks are the racists when everything about the black relationship with whites is due to our response to white racism. That's why black churches exist, it is why black organizations exist, etc. We did not create the exclusion, whites did. There is no assimilation into white culture, there is a creation of a multi cultural nation that is inclusive.
If it was still 1965 you’d have a point.
But just as with so many other issues, the messenger becomes bigger than the message and must perpetuate and amplify a mostly non-existent problem in order to justify their existence.

Ok let's start from scratch here. Black folks were NOT ALLOWED to attend White churches up until the late 60s, so black folks had to create their OWN places of worship. After integration are you saying that we were suppose to just shut down ALL the black churches and go worship at white churches.
55 years is a long time. And you don’t have to shut black churches. Just encourage assimilation. But that would undermine the existence of the NAACP’s of the world.

So why don't whites assimilate to Black Churches if it's that easy.
You mean why don’t assimilated people become black? Black culture segregates itself in the name of perceived blackness and transcends geography. It’s rooted in skin color. Assimilated people reflect the culture of their region. Most are white but the skin color isn’t the predicate.
You have the shoe on the wrong foot.

Didn't answer the question, why haven't white folks started attending black churches. There is no ban of white folks in black churches so your analogy makes no sense.
Because they don’t identify with a self-segregating culture that defines itself by a different and specific skin color. It’s a foreign country. Africa America.

I guess that explains Irish-Americans, Italian-Americans, German-Americans, Polish-Americans, etc.
And they’ve all assimilated and speak the dialect of the region. Segregationist blacks speak the same dialect regardless of region. That puts it in perspective.

You are avoiding the question. Why haven't whites assimilated to black churches?
The last thing you want is for whites to be like blacks. Do you really want white mobs beating down black people?

Because that's how you think of blacks, as people who form mobs and beat people?
It happens all the time.
All the time? Yeah, not an accurate description, I don't think.
Here is a mob beating from today. Like i said, its very common.


I wouldn't call 3 15-year-old girls a mob. :dunno:

Also, while the girl in the picture appears to be black, there's no indication of the other 2 involved in the assault.

Mob attacks happen, sure. I still question your use of the phrase "all the time," though.
Would you feel better if i said it is VERY common?

I'd feel better if I knew just how often you think it happens that mobs of black people beat others. As it is, I don't know if you'd consider once a day or once a month very common. :p
Its more common than lynchings of black people in the past. We STILL keep hearing about those, so surely you shouldnt be upset over complaints about modern day lynchings.

Modern day lynchings? You really do go all in with the hyperbole, don't you?
You sure dont like it when people bring up violent racist black mobs attacking people. What is that about?

Bring it up all you like. When you call 3 teenage girls a mob, when you say it happens all the time, though, you are being disingenuous about it. Calling people getting beat up by a mob the equivalent of "modern day lynchings" is minimizing lynchings, exaggerating mob violence today, or both.
Perhaps I'm wrong, but so far you've neither specified what you think constitutes "all the time" when it comes to black mobs beating people, nor provided much evidence. I don't doubt that it happens, I question your characterization of it as a common occurrence.
I can post HUNDREDS of black mob videos. Its very common. Im not sure why you would want to minimize this violent racism.
 
And yet, AMAZINGLY, White Leftist Shamers on USMB are silent about it and we don't see any Black Pastors being arrested on television. We have fat crocodile tears about the "mega churches". (Black churches are never "mega churches" for some reason.)

I wonder why that is, any ideas?

When deciding to close the doors of black churches, congregational leaders across the US wrestle with unique considerations. Paul J. James, pastor of CareView Community Church in Lansdowne, Pennsylvania, noted in an interview with The Undefeated how closing is “counterintuitive to most churches, especially the black church… where we’re just glad to get together because of how hard life has been historically for us here in America. Church has been a safe place for us. It’s been a safe harbor. Now here we are faced with the inability to come together.”

Last week, the federal government strongly urged Americans not to gather in groups of more than 10, and restrictions keep coming. We suspect that many churches will close in the near future, but the decision will not been easy.

In St. Louis, the mayor hosted a teleconference with 300 clergy, including many of black churches, to urge them not to hold services. While some chose to stop meetings and modify their ministries, others struggled to make the change.

In Michigan, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer banned gatherings of more than 50 but then exempted churches from penalties. This will give some churches more options, though many are choosing to modify in some way. Triumph Church, which has seven locations in the Detroit area, will continue to gather in person, for now, though it expanded the number of services to reduce congregation size and is asking members to register ahead of time so it can maintain at least six feet between worshippers. It is also providing an online service and a drive-in service.

A lot of things inform these responses to the coronavirus outbreak: culture, histories of discrimination, and marginalization, as well as faith-based values. People experience events like COVID-19 not only as individuals but also in communities and in the social locations we inhabit. As social scientists—Deidra as a black woman doing research on HPV and Elaine as a white woman who studies how religious organizations respond to science—we offer some observations based on our research for the past 10 years at the Religion and Public Life Program at Rice University. We have been gathering upwards of 150 religious and civic leaders regularly to talk about how we can use social science research on religion to build common ground for the common good.

Drop the white victimhood lady. There are black mega churches. And apparently blacks in Florida aren't holding services in churches. And its always funny when a republican like you suddenly gets so concerned about blacks only after somebody white gets arrested for something that you can't see blacks getting arrested for.

Nobody black will be calling COVID19 a racist disease. But that's how you racists see black people. Normal non racist whites would not make that kind of comment.

Black churches need to close just like everybody else. But what you really need to do Sue is work on ending the racism in the white community that has you posting this instead of whining "what about black pastors, why don't they get arrested."
Why must there still be ‘black’ churches and why does everyone have to accept that without question?

Why are there black churches? Could it be because black folks couldn't attend the white ones. Duh.

Don't hurt em with documented history like that Superbad. They want to live with amnesia in peace.
And who is stopping them now? No one. Just because blacks refuse to integrate doesn’t mean non-blacks are segregationist. You have it completely on the wrong foot.
What's stopping whites from attending black churches? Answer that one.
The same thing that stops any assimilated American regardless of skin color.

Wrong. You want to make it like blacks are the racists when everything about the black relationship with whites is due to our response to white racism. That's why black churches exist, it is why black organizations exist, etc. We did not create the exclusion, whites did. There is no assimilation into white culture, there is a creation of a multi cultural nation that is inclusive.
If it was still 1965 you’d have a point.
But just as with so many other issues, the messenger becomes bigger than the message and must perpetuate and amplify a mostly non-existent problem in order to justify their existence.

Ok let's start from scratch here. Black folks were NOT ALLOWED to attend White churches up until the late 60s, so black folks had to create their OWN places of worship. After integration are you saying that we were suppose to just shut down ALL the black churches and go worship at white churches.
55 years is a long time. And you don’t have to shut black churches. Just encourage assimilation. But that would undermine the existence of the NAACP’s of the world.

So why don't whites assimilate to Black Churches if it's that easy.
You mean why don’t assimilated people become black? Black culture segregates itself in the name of perceived blackness and transcends geography. It’s rooted in skin color. Assimilated people reflect the culture of their region. Most are white but the skin color isn’t the predicate.
You have the shoe on the wrong foot.

Didn't answer the question, why haven't white folks started attending black churches. There is no ban of white folks in black churches so your analogy makes no sense.
Because they don’t identify with a self-segregating culture that defines itself by a different and specific skin color. It’s a foreign country. Africa America.

I guess that explains Irish-Americans, Italian-Americans, German-Americans, Polish-Americans, etc.
And they’ve all assimilated and speak the dialect of the region. Segregationist blacks speak the same dialect regardless of region. That puts it in perspective.

You are avoiding the question. Why haven't whites assimilated to black churches?
The last thing you want is for whites to be like blacks. Do you really want white mobs beating down black people?

Because that's how you think of blacks, as people who form mobs and beat people?
It happens all the time.
All the time? Yeah, not an accurate description, I don't think.
Here is a mob beating from today. Like i said, its very common.


I wouldn't call 3 15-year-old girls a mob. :dunno:

Also, while the girl in the picture appears to be black, there's no indication of the other 2 involved in the assault.

Mob attacks happen, sure. I still question your use of the phrase "all the time," though.
Would you feel better if i said it is VERY common?

I'd feel better if I knew just how often you think it happens that mobs of black people beat others. As it is, I don't know if you'd consider once a day or once a month very common. :p
How often does a "mob" of White people attack a negro?
The answer is NEVER. It hasnt happened a single time in decades.
 
To me, this is part of an issue I knew would arise from the implementation of policies designed to fight the virus:

The US Constitution provides the freedom to assemble and the right to religious freedom....Telling the American people they can not peacefully assemble and can not worship as they choose is a 'violation of the Constitution' / infringement of Constitutional Rights....

....versus the safety and well-being of the entire country.

I have several Constitutional Rights I am free to exercise....as long as doing so does not infringe on the Rights, safety, and well-being of others. Some people miss that part .... or simply ignore that part.

[In the news] (Extremely) Small town of Summerton, SC - A local resident decides to throw a massive barbeque for the entire town as a 'pick-me-up' for all his friends / neighbors in the midst of an on-going quarantine that have many people feeling isolated / down. Over half the town showed up.....and now over half the town have symptoms of COVID-19.
- YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID' & NOT EVERYONE HAS COMMON SENSE / THE ABILITY TO INTELIGENTLY EXERCISE THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.

The local sheriff was asked why he did not stop the event and threaten to fine / arrest the individual who held it. HE STATED HE COULD ONLY ENFORCE THE RULES / LAWS PASSED / PUT IN PLACE BY THE MAYOR AND GOVERNOR - NO SUCH RULES / LAWS HAVE BEEN PASSEED / INACTED BY THE SC GOV OR SUMMERTON MAYOR.

SC remains one of the last few states to issue a stay-at-home quarantine...and now Summerton, little tiny Summerton, has been recognized by THE CDC as a COVID-19 'Hot Spot'.

I am a Christian. I believe God does and can protect me from many things, but I think he gave us common sense to help us protect ourselves. During this worldwide pandemic God has enough to deal with - on top of everything else - without His followers exercising poor judgment and / or a lack of common sense by demanding God PROVE He protects us through putting ourselves in harm's way.

The church I attend is putting audio and video-taped messages / services out for every Sunday. Telephone, e-mail, Skype, web-pages, etc....we have more forms of communication in today than ever before... There is no reason to put people in jeopardy.......

I am not giving up my Constitutional Right to worship as I wish...for now, though, I choose to worship while not simultaneously putting my neighbors...and this country...at risk.
 
And yet, AMAZINGLY, White Leftist Shamers on USMB are silent about it and we don't see any Black Pastors being arrested on television. We have fat crocodile tears about the "mega churches". (Black churches are never "mega churches" for some reason.)

I wonder why that is, any ideas?

When deciding to close the doors of black churches, congregational leaders across the US wrestle with unique considerations. Paul J. James, pastor of CareView Community Church in Lansdowne, Pennsylvania, noted in an interview with The Undefeated how closing is “counterintuitive to most churches, especially the black church… where we’re just glad to get together because of how hard life has been historically for us here in America. Church has been a safe place for us. It’s been a safe harbor. Now here we are faced with the inability to come together.”

Last week, the federal government strongly urged Americans not to gather in groups of more than 10, and restrictions keep coming. We suspect that many churches will close in the near future, but the decision will not been easy.

In St. Louis, the mayor hosted a teleconference with 300 clergy, including many of black churches, to urge them not to hold services. While some chose to stop meetings and modify their ministries, others struggled to make the change.

In Michigan, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer banned gatherings of more than 50 but then exempted churches from penalties. This will give some churches more options, though many are choosing to modify in some way. Triumph Church, which has seven locations in the Detroit area, will continue to gather in person, for now, though it expanded the number of services to reduce congregation size and is asking members to register ahead of time so it can maintain at least six feet between worshippers. It is also providing an online service and a drive-in service.

A lot of things inform these responses to the coronavirus outbreak: culture, histories of discrimination, and marginalization, as well as faith-based values. People experience events like COVID-19 not only as individuals but also in communities and in the social locations we inhabit. As social scientists—Deidra as a black woman doing research on HPV and Elaine as a white woman who studies how religious organizations respond to science—we offer some observations based on our research for the past 10 years at the Religion and Public Life Program at Rice University. We have been gathering upwards of 150 religious and civic leaders regularly to talk about how we can use social science research on religion to build common ground for the common good.

Drop the white victimhood lady. There are black mega churches. And apparently blacks in Florida aren't holding services in churches. And its always funny when a republican like you suddenly gets so concerned about blacks only after somebody white gets arrested for something that you can't see blacks getting arrested for.

Nobody black will be calling COVID19 a racist disease. But that's how you racists see black people. Normal non racist whites would not make that kind of comment.

Black churches need to close just like everybody else. But what you really need to do Sue is work on ending the racism in the white community that has you posting this instead of whining "what about black pastors, why don't they get arrested."
Why must there still be ‘black’ churches and why does everyone have to accept that without question?

Why are there black churches? Could it be because black folks couldn't attend the white ones. Duh.

Don't hurt em with documented history like that Superbad. They want to live with amnesia in peace.
And who is stopping them now? No one. Just because blacks refuse to integrate doesn’t mean non-blacks are segregationist. You have it completely on the wrong foot.
What's stopping whites from attending black churches? Answer that one.
The same thing that stops any assimilated American regardless of skin color.

Wrong. You want to make it like blacks are the racists when everything about the black relationship with whites is due to our response to white racism. That's why black churches exist, it is why black organizations exist, etc. We did not create the exclusion, whites did. There is no assimilation into white culture, there is a creation of a multi cultural nation that is inclusive.
If it was still 1965 you’d have a point.
But just as with so many other issues, the messenger becomes bigger than the message and must perpetuate and amplify a mostly non-existent problem in order to justify their existence.

Ok let's start from scratch here. Black folks were NOT ALLOWED to attend White churches up until the late 60s, so black folks had to create their OWN places of worship. After integration are you saying that we were suppose to just shut down ALL the black churches and go worship at white churches.
55 years is a long time. And you don’t have to shut black churches. Just encourage assimilation. But that would undermine the existence of the NAACP’s of the world.

So why don't whites assimilate to Black Churches if it's that easy.
You mean why don’t assimilated people become black? Black culture segregates itself in the name of perceived blackness and transcends geography. It’s rooted in skin color. Assimilated people reflect the culture of their region. Most are white but the skin color isn’t the predicate.
You have the shoe on the wrong foot.

Didn't answer the question, why haven't white folks started attending black churches. There is no ban of white folks in black churches so your analogy makes no sense.
Because they don’t identify with a self-segregating culture that defines itself by a different and specific skin color. It’s a foreign country. Africa America.

I guess that explains Irish-Americans, Italian-Americans, German-Americans, Polish-Americans, etc.
And they’ve all assimilated and speak the dialect of the region. Segregationist blacks speak the same dialect regardless of region. That puts it in perspective.

You are avoiding the question. Why haven't whites assimilated to black churches?
The last thing you want is for whites to be like blacks. Do you really want white mobs beating down black people?

Because that's how you think of blacks, as people who form mobs and beat people?
It happens all the time.
All the time? Yeah, not an accurate description, I don't think.
Here is a mob beating from today. Like i said, its very common.


I wouldn't call 3 15-year-old girls a mob. :dunno:

Also, while the girl in the picture appears to be black, there's no indication of the other 2 involved in the assault.

Mob attacks happen, sure. I still question your use of the phrase "all the time," though.
Would you feel better if i said it is VERY common?

I'd feel better if I knew just how often you think it happens that mobs of black people beat others. As it is, I don't know if you'd consider once a day or once a month very common. :p
How often does a "mob" of White people attack a negro?

It still happens, they just wear blue instead of white.
 
And yet, AMAZINGLY, White Leftist Shamers on USMB are silent about it and we don't see any Black Pastors being arrested on television. We have fat crocodile tears about the "mega churches". (Black churches are never "mega churches" for some reason.)

I wonder why that is, any ideas?

When deciding to close the doors of black churches, congregational leaders across the US wrestle with unique considerations. Paul J. James, pastor of CareView Community Church in Lansdowne, Pennsylvania, noted in an interview with The Undefeated how closing is “counterintuitive to most churches, especially the black church… where we’re just glad to get together because of how hard life has been historically for us here in America. Church has been a safe place for us. It’s been a safe harbor. Now here we are faced with the inability to come together.”

Last week, the federal government strongly urged Americans not to gather in groups of more than 10, and restrictions keep coming. We suspect that many churches will close in the near future, but the decision will not been easy.

In St. Louis, the mayor hosted a teleconference with 300 clergy, including many of black churches, to urge them not to hold services. While some chose to stop meetings and modify their ministries, others struggled to make the change.

In Michigan, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer banned gatherings of more than 50 but then exempted churches from penalties. This will give some churches more options, though many are choosing to modify in some way. Triumph Church, which has seven locations in the Detroit area, will continue to gather in person, for now, though it expanded the number of services to reduce congregation size and is asking members to register ahead of time so it can maintain at least six feet between worshippers. It is also providing an online service and a drive-in service.

A lot of things inform these responses to the coronavirus outbreak: culture, histories of discrimination, and marginalization, as well as faith-based values. People experience events like COVID-19 not only as individuals but also in communities and in the social locations we inhabit. As social scientists—Deidra as a black woman doing research on HPV and Elaine as a white woman who studies how religious organizations respond to science—we offer some observations based on our research for the past 10 years at the Religion and Public Life Program at Rice University. We have been gathering upwards of 150 religious and civic leaders regularly to talk about how we can use social science research on religion to build common ground for the common good.

Drop the white victimhood lady. There are black mega churches. And apparently blacks in Florida aren't holding services in churches. And its always funny when a republican like you suddenly gets so concerned about blacks only after somebody white gets arrested for something that you can't see blacks getting arrested for.

Nobody black will be calling COVID19 a racist disease. But that's how you racists see black people. Normal non racist whites would not make that kind of comment.

Black churches need to close just like everybody else. But what you really need to do Sue is work on ending the racism in the white community that has you posting this instead of whining "what about black pastors, why don't they get arrested."
Why must there still be ‘black’ churches and why does everyone have to accept that without question?

Why are there black churches? Could it be because black folks couldn't attend the white ones. Duh.

Don't hurt em with documented history like that Superbad. They want to live with amnesia in peace.
And who is stopping them now? No one. Just because blacks refuse to integrate doesn’t mean non-blacks are segregationist. You have it completely on the wrong foot.
What's stopping whites from attending black churches? Answer that one.
The same thing that stops any assimilated American regardless of skin color.

Wrong. You want to make it like blacks are the racists when everything about the black relationship with whites is due to our response to white racism. That's why black churches exist, it is why black organizations exist, etc. We did not create the exclusion, whites did. There is no assimilation into white culture, there is a creation of a multi cultural nation that is inclusive.
If it was still 1965 you’d have a point.
But just as with so many other issues, the messenger becomes bigger than the message and must perpetuate and amplify a mostly non-existent problem in order to justify their existence.

Ok let's start from scratch here. Black folks were NOT ALLOWED to attend White churches up until the late 60s, so black folks had to create their OWN places of worship. After integration are you saying that we were suppose to just shut down ALL the black churches and go worship at white churches.
55 years is a long time. And you don’t have to shut black churches. Just encourage assimilation. But that would undermine the existence of the NAACP’s of the world.

So why don't whites assimilate to Black Churches if it's that easy.
You mean why don’t assimilated people become black? Black culture segregates itself in the name of perceived blackness and transcends geography. It’s rooted in skin color. Assimilated people reflect the culture of their region. Most are white but the skin color isn’t the predicate.
You have the shoe on the wrong foot.

Didn't answer the question, why haven't white folks started attending black churches. There is no ban of white folks in black churches so your analogy makes no sense.
Because they don’t identify with a self-segregating culture that defines itself by a different and specific skin color. It’s a foreign country. Africa America.

I guess that explains Irish-Americans, Italian-Americans, German-Americans, Polish-Americans, etc.
And they’ve all assimilated and speak the dialect of the region. Segregationist blacks speak the same dialect regardless of region. That puts it in perspective.

You are avoiding the question. Why haven't whites assimilated to black churches?
Because Whites don't want to go to negro churches.
They are concerned their car will get stripped while they are in church.

Negro churches, get their car stripped. Well at least you don't hide your racism.
'racism' spelled backward is: 'telling the truth'.
Yesterday there were SB churches packed with 100% negroes.
Their preachers have told their parishioners that "black folks can't catch the virus".
If you are an obese negro over sixty with diabetes or prediabetes your chances of contracting the virus is close to 100%.
Already 'Rev' Sharpton said yesterday that "blacks are disproportionately more likely to catch the virus than other races".
He was paving the way to attack 'Whitey' again for all the problems the 'plantation DEMs' have.
Sharpton and the homophobe Joy Reid ought to be telling negroes to stay out of the packed churches and for fuck sake STOP EATING SUGAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cant fix stupid

You prove that everyday.
 
And yet, AMAZINGLY, White Leftist Shamers on USMB are silent about it and we don't see any Black Pastors being arrested on television. We have fat crocodile tears about the "mega churches". (Black churches are never "mega churches" for some reason.)

I wonder why that is, any ideas?

When deciding to close the doors of black churches, congregational leaders across the US wrestle with unique considerations. Paul J. James, pastor of CareView Community Church in Lansdowne, Pennsylvania, noted in an interview with The Undefeated how closing is “counterintuitive to most churches, especially the black church… where we’re just glad to get together because of how hard life has been historically for us here in America. Church has been a safe place for us. It’s been a safe harbor. Now here we are faced with the inability to come together.”

Last week, the federal government strongly urged Americans not to gather in groups of more than 10, and restrictions keep coming. We suspect that many churches will close in the near future, but the decision will not been easy.

In St. Louis, the mayor hosted a teleconference with 300 clergy, including many of black churches, to urge them not to hold services. While some chose to stop meetings and modify their ministries, others struggled to make the change.

In Michigan, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer banned gatherings of more than 50 but then exempted churches from penalties. This will give some churches more options, though many are choosing to modify in some way. Triumph Church, which has seven locations in the Detroit area, will continue to gather in person, for now, though it expanded the number of services to reduce congregation size and is asking members to register ahead of time so it can maintain at least six feet between worshippers. It is also providing an online service and a drive-in service.

A lot of things inform these responses to the coronavirus outbreak: culture, histories of discrimination, and marginalization, as well as faith-based values. People experience events like COVID-19 not only as individuals but also in communities and in the social locations we inhabit. As social scientists—Deidra as a black woman doing research on HPV and Elaine as a white woman who studies how religious organizations respond to science—we offer some observations based on our research for the past 10 years at the Religion and Public Life Program at Rice University. We have been gathering upwards of 150 religious and civic leaders regularly to talk about how we can use social science research on religion to build common ground for the common good.

Drop the white victimhood lady. There are black mega churches. And apparently blacks in Florida aren't holding services in churches. And its always funny when a republican like you suddenly gets so concerned about blacks only after somebody white gets arrested for something that you can't see blacks getting arrested for.

Nobody black will be calling COVID19 a racist disease. But that's how you racists see black people. Normal non racist whites would not make that kind of comment.

Black churches need to close just like everybody else. But what you really need to do Sue is work on ending the racism in the white community that has you posting this instead of whining "what about black pastors, why don't they get arrested."
Why must there still be ‘black’ churches and why does everyone have to accept that without question?

Why are there black churches? Could it be because black folks couldn't attend the white ones. Duh.

Don't hurt em with documented history like that Superbad. They want to live with amnesia in peace.
And who is stopping them now? No one. Just because blacks refuse to integrate doesn’t mean non-blacks are segregationist. You have it completely on the wrong foot.
What's stopping whites from attending black churches? Answer that one.
The same thing that stops any assimilated American regardless of skin color.

Wrong. You want to make it like blacks are the racists when everything about the black relationship with whites is due to our response to white racism. That's why black churches exist, it is why black organizations exist, etc. We did not create the exclusion, whites did. There is no assimilation into white culture, there is a creation of a multi cultural nation that is inclusive.
If it was still 1965 you’d have a point.
But just as with so many other issues, the messenger becomes bigger than the message and must perpetuate and amplify a mostly non-existent problem in order to justify their existence.

Ok let's start from scratch here. Black folks were NOT ALLOWED to attend White churches up until the late 60s, so black folks had to create their OWN places of worship. After integration are you saying that we were suppose to just shut down ALL the black churches and go worship at white churches.
55 years is a long time. And you don’t have to shut black churches. Just encourage assimilation. But that would undermine the existence of the NAACP’s of the world.

So why don't whites assimilate to Black Churches if it's that easy.
You mean why don’t assimilated people become black? Black culture segregates itself in the name of perceived blackness and transcends geography. It’s rooted in skin color. Assimilated people reflect the culture of their region. Most are white but the skin color isn’t the predicate.
You have the shoe on the wrong foot.

Didn't answer the question, why haven't white folks started attending black churches. There is no ban of white folks in black churches so your analogy makes no sense.
Because they don’t identify with a self-segregating culture that defines itself by a different and specific skin color. It’s a foreign country. Africa America.

I guess that explains Irish-Americans, Italian-Americans, German-Americans, Polish-Americans, etc.
And they’ve all assimilated and speak the dialect of the region. Segregationist blacks speak the same dialect regardless of region. That puts it in perspective.

You are avoiding the question. Why haven't whites assimilated to black churches?
The last thing you want is for whites to be like blacks. Do you really want white mobs beating down black people?

Because that's how you think of blacks, as people who form mobs and beat people?
It happens all the time.
All the time? Yeah, not an accurate description, I don't think.
Here is a mob beating from today. Like i said, its very common.


I wouldn't call 3 15-year-old girls a mob. :dunno:

Also, while the girl in the picture appears to be black, there's no indication of the other 2 involved in the assault.

Mob attacks happen, sure. I still question your use of the phrase "all the time," though.
Would you feel better if i said it is VERY common?

I'd feel better if I knew just how often you think it happens that mobs of black people beat others. As it is, I don't know if you'd consider once a day or once a month very common. :p
Its more common than lynchings of black people in the past. We STILL keep hearing about those, so surely you shouldnt be upset over complaints about modern day lynchings.

Modern day lynchings? You really do go all in with the hyperbole, don't you?
You sure dont like it when people bring up violent racist black mobs attacking people. What is that about?

Bring it up all you like. When you call 3 teenage girls a mob, when you say it happens all the time, though, you are being disingenuous about it. Calling people getting beat up by a mob the equivalent of "modern day lynchings" is minimizing lynchings, exaggerating mob violence today, or both.
Perhaps I'm wrong, but so far you've neither specified what you think constitutes "all the time" when it comes to black mobs beating people, nor provided much evidence. I don't doubt that it happens, I question your characterization of it as a common occurrence.
I can post HUNDREDS of black mob videos. Its very common. Im not sure why you would want to minimize this violent racism.

I'm not minimizing anything. I'm questioning what's true. Of your hundreds of "black mob videos," how many actually involve racist attacks? How many are actual mobs, rather than 2 or 3 people, such as the example you just gave a few posts ago? If 3 blacks beat up a white person, while a crime and a bad thing, it doesn't necessarily mean it's a racist mob attack.

You give the impression of having an anti-black agenda, which makes me question your claims. I don't doubt that mob attacks happen. I don't doubt that mob attacks in which the mob is made up of blacks happen. I don't doubt that attacks by black mobs happen due to racism. I do question just how common they are. I'm not sure why that seems so difficult for you to accept.
 
And yet, AMAZINGLY, White Leftist Shamers on USMB are silent about it and we don't see any Black Pastors being arrested on television. We have fat crocodile tears about the "mega churches". (Black churches are never "mega churches" for some reason.)

I wonder why that is, any ideas?

When deciding to close the doors of black churches, congregational leaders across the US wrestle with unique considerations. Paul J. James, pastor of CareView Community Church in Lansdowne, Pennsylvania, noted in an interview with The Undefeated how closing is “counterintuitive to most churches, especially the black church… where we’re just glad to get together because of how hard life has been historically for us here in America. Church has been a safe place for us. It’s been a safe harbor. Now here we are faced with the inability to come together.”

Last week, the federal government strongly urged Americans not to gather in groups of more than 10, and restrictions keep coming. We suspect that many churches will close in the near future, but the decision will not been easy.

In St. Louis, the mayor hosted a teleconference with 300 clergy, including many of black churches, to urge them not to hold services. While some chose to stop meetings and modify their ministries, others struggled to make the change.

In Michigan, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer banned gatherings of more than 50 but then exempted churches from penalties. This will give some churches more options, though many are choosing to modify in some way. Triumph Church, which has seven locations in the Detroit area, will continue to gather in person, for now, though it expanded the number of services to reduce congregation size and is asking members to register ahead of time so it can maintain at least six feet between worshippers. It is also providing an online service and a drive-in service.

A lot of things inform these responses to the coronavirus outbreak: culture, histories of discrimination, and marginalization, as well as faith-based values. People experience events like COVID-19 not only as individuals but also in communities and in the social locations we inhabit. As social scientists—Deidra as a black woman doing research on HPV and Elaine as a white woman who studies how religious organizations respond to science—we offer some observations based on our research for the past 10 years at the Religion and Public Life Program at Rice University. We have been gathering upwards of 150 religious and civic leaders regularly to talk about how we can use social science research on religion to build common ground for the common good.

Drop the white victimhood lady. There are black mega churches. And apparently blacks in Florida aren't holding services in churches. And its always funny when a republican like you suddenly gets so concerned about blacks only after somebody white gets arrested for something that you can't see blacks getting arrested for.

Nobody black will be calling COVID19 a racist disease. But that's how you racists see black people. Normal non racist whites would not make that kind of comment.

Black churches need to close just like everybody else. But what you really need to do Sue is work on ending the racism in the white community that has you posting this instead of whining "what about black pastors, why don't they get arrested."
Why must there still be ‘black’ churches and why does everyone have to accept that without question?

Why are there black churches? Could it be because black folks couldn't attend the white ones. Duh.

Don't hurt em with documented history like that Superbad. They want to live with amnesia in peace.
And who is stopping them now? No one. Just because blacks refuse to integrate doesn’t mean non-blacks are segregationist. You have it completely on the wrong foot.
What's stopping whites from attending black churches? Answer that one.
The same thing that stops any assimilated American regardless of skin color.

Wrong. You want to make it like blacks are the racists when everything about the black relationship with whites is due to our response to white racism. That's why black churches exist, it is why black organizations exist, etc. We did not create the exclusion, whites did. There is no assimilation into white culture, there is a creation of a multi cultural nation that is inclusive.
If it was still 1965 you’d have a point.
But just as with so many other issues, the messenger becomes bigger than the message and must perpetuate and amplify a mostly non-existent problem in order to justify their existence.

Ok let's start from scratch here. Black folks were NOT ALLOWED to attend White churches up until the late 60s, so black folks had to create their OWN places of worship. After integration are you saying that we were suppose to just shut down ALL the black churches and go worship at white churches.
55 years is a long time. And you don’t have to shut black churches. Just encourage assimilation. But that would undermine the existence of the NAACP’s of the world.

So why don't whites assimilate to Black Churches if it's that easy.
You mean why don’t assimilated people become black? Black culture segregates itself in the name of perceived blackness and transcends geography. It’s rooted in skin color. Assimilated people reflect the culture of their region. Most are white but the skin color isn’t the predicate.
You have the shoe on the wrong foot.

Didn't answer the question, why haven't white folks started attending black churches. There is no ban of white folks in black churches so your analogy makes no sense.
Because they don’t identify with a self-segregating culture that defines itself by a different and specific skin color. It’s a foreign country. Africa America.

I guess that explains Irish-Americans, Italian-Americans, German-Americans, Polish-Americans, etc.
And they’ve all assimilated and speak the dialect of the region. Segregationist blacks speak the same dialect regardless of region. That puts it in perspective.

You are avoiding the question. Why haven't whites assimilated to black churches?
The last thing you want is for whites to be like blacks. Do you really want white mobs beating down black people?

Because that's how you think of blacks, as people who form mobs and beat people?
It happens all the time.
All the time? Yeah, not an accurate description, I don't think.
Here is a mob beating from today. Like i said, its very common.


I wouldn't call 3 15-year-old girls a mob. :dunno:

Also, while the girl in the picture appears to be black, there's no indication of the other 2 involved in the assault.

Mob attacks happen, sure. I still question your use of the phrase "all the time," though.
That's right the negro girl on surveillance was hanging with two White girls when they decided to attack a fourteen year old Asian girl.
You really are a fucking idiot!

Oh, I'm sure you are perfectly happy with assuming you know, rather than looking for confirmation. ;)
 
And yet, AMAZINGLY, White Leftist Shamers on USMB are silent about it and we don't see any Black Pastors being arrested on television. We have fat crocodile tears about the "mega churches". (Black churches are never "mega churches" for some reason.)

I wonder why that is, any ideas?

When deciding to close the doors of black churches, congregational leaders across the US wrestle with unique considerations. Paul J. James, pastor of CareView Community Church in Lansdowne, Pennsylvania, noted in an interview with The Undefeated how closing is “counterintuitive to most churches, especially the black church… where we’re just glad to get together because of how hard life has been historically for us here in America. Church has been a safe place for us. It’s been a safe harbor. Now here we are faced with the inability to come together.”

Last week, the federal government strongly urged Americans not to gather in groups of more than 10, and restrictions keep coming. We suspect that many churches will close in the near future, but the decision will not been easy.

In St. Louis, the mayor hosted a teleconference with 300 clergy, including many of black churches, to urge them not to hold services. While some chose to stop meetings and modify their ministries, others struggled to make the change.

In Michigan, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer banned gatherings of more than 50 but then exempted churches from penalties. This will give some churches more options, though many are choosing to modify in some way. Triumph Church, which has seven locations in the Detroit area, will continue to gather in person, for now, though it expanded the number of services to reduce congregation size and is asking members to register ahead of time so it can maintain at least six feet between worshippers. It is also providing an online service and a drive-in service.

A lot of things inform these responses to the coronavirus outbreak: culture, histories of discrimination, and marginalization, as well as faith-based values. People experience events like COVID-19 not only as individuals but also in communities and in the social locations we inhabit. As social scientists—Deidra as a black woman doing research on HPV and Elaine as a white woman who studies how religious organizations respond to science—we offer some observations based on our research for the past 10 years at the Religion and Public Life Program at Rice University. We have been gathering upwards of 150 religious and civic leaders regularly to talk about how we can use social science research on religion to build common ground for the common good.

Drop the white victimhood lady. There are black mega churches. And apparently blacks in Florida aren't holding services in churches. And its always funny when a republican like you suddenly gets so concerned about blacks only after somebody white gets arrested for something that you can't see blacks getting arrested for.

Nobody black will be calling COVID19 a racist disease. But that's how you racists see black people. Normal non racist whites would not make that kind of comment.

Black churches need to close just like everybody else. But what you really need to do Sue is work on ending the racism in the white community that has you posting this instead of whining "what about black pastors, why don't they get arrested."
Why must there still be ‘black’ churches and why does everyone have to accept that without question?

Why are there black churches? Could it be because black folks couldn't attend the white ones. Duh.

Don't hurt em with documented history like that Superbad. They want to live with amnesia in peace.
And who is stopping them now? No one. Just because blacks refuse to integrate doesn’t mean non-blacks are segregationist. You have it completely on the wrong foot.
What's stopping whites from attending black churches? Answer that one.
The same thing that stops any assimilated American regardless of skin color.

Wrong. You want to make it like blacks are the racists when everything about the black relationship with whites is due to our response to white racism. That's why black churches exist, it is why black organizations exist, etc. We did not create the exclusion, whites did. There is no assimilation into white culture, there is a creation of a multi cultural nation that is inclusive.
If it was still 1965 you’d have a point.
But just as with so many other issues, the messenger becomes bigger than the message and must perpetuate and amplify a mostly non-existent problem in order to justify their existence.

Ok let's start from scratch here. Black folks were NOT ALLOWED to attend White churches up until the late 60s, so black folks had to create their OWN places of worship. After integration are you saying that we were suppose to just shut down ALL the black churches and go worship at white churches.
55 years is a long time. And you don’t have to shut black churches. Just encourage assimilation. But that would undermine the existence of the NAACP’s of the world.

So why don't whites assimilate to Black Churches if it's that easy.
You mean why don’t assimilated people become black? Black culture segregates itself in the name of perceived blackness and transcends geography. It’s rooted in skin color. Assimilated people reflect the culture of their region. Most are white but the skin color isn’t the predicate.
You have the shoe on the wrong foot.

Didn't answer the question, why haven't white folks started attending black churches. There is no ban of white folks in black churches so your analogy makes no sense.
Because they don’t identify with a self-segregating culture that defines itself by a different and specific skin color. It’s a foreign country. Africa America.

I guess that explains Irish-Americans, Italian-Americans, German-Americans, Polish-Americans, etc.
And they’ve all assimilated and speak the dialect of the region. Segregationist blacks speak the same dialect regardless of region. That puts it in perspective.

You are avoiding the question. Why haven't whites assimilated to black churches?
The last thing you want is for whites to be like blacks. Do you really want white mobs beating down black people?

Because that's how you think of blacks, as people who form mobs and beat people?
It happens all the time.
All the time? Yeah, not an accurate description, I don't think.
Here is a mob beating from today. Like i said, its very common.


I wouldn't call 3 15-year-old girls a mob. :dunno:

Also, while the girl in the picture appears to be black, there's no indication of the other 2 involved in the assault.

Mob attacks happen, sure. I still question your use of the phrase "all the time," though.
Would you feel better if i said it is VERY common?

I'd feel better if I knew just how often you think it happens that mobs of black people beat others. As it is, I don't know if you'd consider once a day or once a month very common. :p
Its more common than lynchings of black people in the past. We STILL keep hearing about those, so surely you shouldnt be upset over complaints about modern day lynchings.

Modern day lynchings? You really do go all in with the hyperbole, don't you?
You sure dont like it when people bring up violent racist black mobs attacking people. What is that about?

Bring it up all you like. When you call 3 teenage girls a mob, when you say it happens all the time, though, you are being disingenuous about it. Calling people getting beat up by a mob the equivalent of "modern day lynchings" is minimizing lynchings, exaggerating mob violence today, or both.
Perhaps I'm wrong, but so far you've neither specified what you think constitutes "all the time" when it comes to black mobs beating people, nor provided much evidence. I don't doubt that it happens, I question your characterization of it as a common occurrence.
I can post HUNDREDS of black mob videos. Its very common. Im not sure why you would want to minimize this violent racism.

I'm not minimizing anything. I'm questioning what's true. Of your hundreds of "black mob videos," how many actually involve racist attacks? How many are actual mobs, rather than 2 or 3 people, such as the example you just gave a few posts ago? If 3 blacks beat up a white person, while a crime and a bad thing, it doesn't necessarily mean it's a racist mob attack.

You give the impression of having an anti-black agenda, which makes me question your claims. I don't doubt that mob attacks happen. I don't doubt that mob attacks in which the mob is made up of blacks happen. I don't doubt that attacks by black mobs happen due to racism. I do question just how common they are. I'm not sure why that seems so difficult for you to accept.
Only one racial group in this nation commits violent racist mob attacks, and yes, 3 or more people is a mob. Why are you STILL minimizing racist mob attacks?
 
And yet, AMAZINGLY, White Leftist Shamers on USMB are silent about it and we don't see any Black Pastors being arrested on television. We have fat crocodile tears about the "mega churches". (Black churches are never "mega churches" for some reason.)

I wonder why that is, any ideas?

When deciding to close the doors of black churches, congregational leaders across the US wrestle with unique considerations. Paul J. James, pastor of CareView Community Church in Lansdowne, Pennsylvania, noted in an interview with The Undefeated how closing is “counterintuitive to most churches, especially the black church… where we’re just glad to get together because of how hard life has been historically for us here in America. Church has been a safe place for us. It’s been a safe harbor. Now here we are faced with the inability to come together.”

Last week, the federal government strongly urged Americans not to gather in groups of more than 10, and restrictions keep coming. We suspect that many churches will close in the near future, but the decision will not been easy.

In St. Louis, the mayor hosted a teleconference with 300 clergy, including many of black churches, to urge them not to hold services. While some chose to stop meetings and modify their ministries, others struggled to make the change.

In Michigan, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer banned gatherings of more than 50 but then exempted churches from penalties. This will give some churches more options, though many are choosing to modify in some way. Triumph Church, which has seven locations in the Detroit area, will continue to gather in person, for now, though it expanded the number of services to reduce congregation size and is asking members to register ahead of time so it can maintain at least six feet between worshippers. It is also providing an online service and a drive-in service.

A lot of things inform these responses to the coronavirus outbreak: culture, histories of discrimination, and marginalization, as well as faith-based values. People experience events like COVID-19 not only as individuals but also in communities and in the social locations we inhabit. As social scientists—Deidra as a black woman doing research on HPV and Elaine as a white woman who studies how religious organizations respond to science—we offer some observations based on our research for the past 10 years at the Religion and Public Life Program at Rice University. We have been gathering upwards of 150 religious and civic leaders regularly to talk about how we can use social science research on religion to build common ground for the common good.

Drop the white victimhood lady. There are black mega churches. And apparently blacks in Florida aren't holding services in churches. And its always funny when a republican like you suddenly gets so concerned about blacks only after somebody white gets arrested for something that you can't see blacks getting arrested for.

Nobody black will be calling COVID19 a racist disease. But that's how you racists see black people. Normal non racist whites would not make that kind of comment.

Black churches need to close just like everybody else. But what you really need to do Sue is work on ending the racism in the white community that has you posting this instead of whining "what about black pastors, why don't they get arrested."
Why must there still be ‘black’ churches and why does everyone have to accept that without question?

Why are there black churches? Could it be because black folks couldn't attend the white ones. Duh.

Don't hurt em with documented history like that Superbad. They want to live with amnesia in peace.
And who is stopping them now? No one. Just because blacks refuse to integrate doesn’t mean non-blacks are segregationist. You have it completely on the wrong foot.
What's stopping whites from attending black churches? Answer that one.
The same thing that stops any assimilated American regardless of skin color.

Wrong. You want to make it like blacks are the racists when everything about the black relationship with whites is due to our response to white racism. That's why black churches exist, it is why black organizations exist, etc. We did not create the exclusion, whites did. There is no assimilation into white culture, there is a creation of a multi cultural nation that is inclusive.
If it was still 1965 you’d have a point.
But just as with so many other issues, the messenger becomes bigger than the message and must perpetuate and amplify a mostly non-existent problem in order to justify their existence.

Ok let's start from scratch here. Black folks were NOT ALLOWED to attend White churches up until the late 60s, so black folks had to create their OWN places of worship. After integration are you saying that we were suppose to just shut down ALL the black churches and go worship at white churches.
55 years is a long time. And you don’t have to shut black churches. Just encourage assimilation. But that would undermine the existence of the NAACP’s of the world.

So why don't whites assimilate to Black Churches if it's that easy.
You mean why don’t assimilated people become black? Black culture segregates itself in the name of perceived blackness and transcends geography. It’s rooted in skin color. Assimilated people reflect the culture of their region. Most are white but the skin color isn’t the predicate.
You have the shoe on the wrong foot.

Didn't answer the question, why haven't white folks started attending black churches. There is no ban of white folks in black churches so your analogy makes no sense.
Because they don’t identify with a self-segregating culture that defines itself by a different and specific skin color. It’s a foreign country. Africa America.

I guess that explains Irish-Americans, Italian-Americans, German-Americans, Polish-Americans, etc.
And they’ve all assimilated and speak the dialect of the region. Segregationist blacks speak the same dialect regardless of region. That puts it in perspective.

You are avoiding the question. Why haven't whites assimilated to black churches?
The last thing you want is for whites to be like blacks. Do you really want white mobs beating down black people?

Because that's how you think of blacks, as people who form mobs and beat people?
It happens all the time.
All the time? Yeah, not an accurate description, I don't think.
Here is a mob beating from today. Like i said, its very common.


I wouldn't call 3 15-year-old girls a mob. :dunno:

Also, while the girl in the picture appears to be black, there's no indication of the other 2 involved in the assault.

Mob attacks happen, sure. I still question your use of the phrase "all the time," though.
Would you feel better if i said it is VERY common?

I'd feel better if I knew just how often you think it happens that mobs of black people beat others. As it is, I don't know if you'd consider once a day or once a month very common. :p
Its more common than lynchings of black people in the past. We STILL keep hearing about those, so surely you shouldnt be upset over complaints about modern day lynchings.

Modern day lynchings? You really do go all in with the hyperbole, don't you?
You sure dont like it when people bring up violent racist black mobs attacking people. What is that about?

Bring it up all you like. When you call 3 teenage girls a mob, when you say it happens all the time, though, you are being disingenuous about it. Calling people getting beat up by a mob the equivalent of "modern day lynchings" is minimizing lynchings, exaggerating mob violence today, or both.
Perhaps I'm wrong, but so far you've neither specified what you think constitutes "all the time" when it comes to black mobs beating people, nor provided much evidence. I don't doubt that it happens, I question your characterization of it as a common occurrence.
I can post HUNDREDS of black mob videos. Its very common. Im not sure why you would want to minimize this violent racism.

I'm not minimizing anything. I'm questioning what's true. Of your hundreds of "black mob videos," how many actually involve racist attacks? How many are actual mobs, rather than 2 or 3 people, such as the example you just gave a few posts ago? If 3 blacks beat up a white person, while a crime and a bad thing, it doesn't necessarily mean it's a racist mob attack.

You give the impression of having an anti-black agenda, which makes me question your claims. I don't doubt that mob attacks happen. I don't doubt that mob attacks in which the mob is made up of blacks happen. I don't doubt that attacks by black mobs happen due to racism. I do question just how common they are. I'm not sure why that seems so difficult for you to accept.
Only one racial group in this nation commits violent racist mob attacks, and yes, 3 or more people is a mob. Why are you STILL minimizing racist mob attacks?
I’m not. Why can’t you see the difference between minimizing attacks and questioning the veracity of unsupported, fairly vague claims?
 
And yet, AMAZINGLY, White Leftist Shamers on USMB are silent about it and we don't see any Black Pastors being arrested on television. We have fat crocodile tears about the "mega churches". (Black churches are never "mega churches" for some reason.)

I wonder why that is, any ideas?

When deciding to close the doors of black churches, congregational leaders across the US wrestle with unique considerations. Paul J. James, pastor of CareView Community Church in Lansdowne, Pennsylvania, noted in an interview with The Undefeated how closing is “counterintuitive to most churches, especially the black church… where we’re just glad to get together because of how hard life has been historically for us here in America. Church has been a safe place for us. It’s been a safe harbor. Now here we are faced with the inability to come together.”

Last week, the federal government strongly urged Americans not to gather in groups of more than 10, and restrictions keep coming. We suspect that many churches will close in the near future, but the decision will not been easy.

In St. Louis, the mayor hosted a teleconference with 300 clergy, including many of black churches, to urge them not to hold services. While some chose to stop meetings and modify their ministries, others struggled to make the change.

In Michigan, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer banned gatherings of more than 50 but then exempted churches from penalties. This will give some churches more options, though many are choosing to modify in some way. Triumph Church, which has seven locations in the Detroit area, will continue to gather in person, for now, though it expanded the number of services to reduce congregation size and is asking members to register ahead of time so it can maintain at least six feet between worshippers. It is also providing an online service and a drive-in service.

A lot of things inform these responses to the coronavirus outbreak: culture, histories of discrimination, and marginalization, as well as faith-based values. People experience events like COVID-19 not only as individuals but also in communities and in the social locations we inhabit. As social scientists—Deidra as a black woman doing research on HPV and Elaine as a white woman who studies how religious organizations respond to science—we offer some observations based on our research for the past 10 years at the Religion and Public Life Program at Rice University. We have been gathering upwards of 150 religious and civic leaders regularly to talk about how we can use social science research on religion to build common ground for the common good.

Drop the white victimhood lady. There are black mega churches. And apparently blacks in Florida aren't holding services in churches. And its always funny when a republican like you suddenly gets so concerned about blacks only after somebody white gets arrested for something that you can't see blacks getting arrested for.

Nobody black will be calling COVID19 a racist disease. But that's how you racists see black people. Normal non racist whites would not make that kind of comment.

Black churches need to close just like everybody else. But what you really need to do Sue is work on ending the racism in the white community that has you posting this instead of whining "what about black pastors, why don't they get arrested."
Why must there still be ‘black’ churches and why does everyone have to accept that without question?

Why are there black churches? Could it be because black folks couldn't attend the white ones. Duh.

Don't hurt em with documented history like that Superbad. They want to live with amnesia in peace.
And who is stopping them now? No one. Just because blacks refuse to integrate doesn’t mean non-blacks are segregationist. You have it completely on the wrong foot.
What's stopping whites from attending black churches? Answer that one.
The same thing that stops any assimilated American regardless of skin color.

Wrong. You want to make it like blacks are the racists when everything about the black relationship with whites is due to our response to white racism. That's why black churches exist, it is why black organizations exist, etc. We did not create the exclusion, whites did. There is no assimilation into white culture, there is a creation of a multi cultural nation that is inclusive.
If it was still 1965 you’d have a point.
But just as with so many other issues, the messenger becomes bigger than the message and must perpetuate and amplify a mostly non-existent problem in order to justify their existence.

Ok let's start from scratch here. Black folks were NOT ALLOWED to attend White churches up until the late 60s, so black folks had to create their OWN places of worship. After integration are you saying that we were suppose to just shut down ALL the black churches and go worship at white churches.
55 years is a long time. And you don’t have to shut black churches. Just encourage assimilation. But that would undermine the existence of the NAACP’s of the world.

So why don't whites assimilate to Black Churches if it's that easy.
You mean why don’t assimilated people become black? Black culture segregates itself in the name of perceived blackness and transcends geography. It’s rooted in skin color. Assimilated people reflect the culture of their region. Most are white but the skin color isn’t the predicate.
You have the shoe on the wrong foot.

Didn't answer the question, why haven't white folks started attending black churches. There is no ban of white folks in black churches so your analogy makes no sense.
Because they don’t identify with a self-segregating culture that defines itself by a different and specific skin color. It’s a foreign country. Africa America.

I guess that explains Irish-Americans, Italian-Americans, German-Americans, Polish-Americans, etc.
And they’ve all assimilated and speak the dialect of the region. Segregationist blacks speak the same dialect regardless of region. That puts it in perspective.

You are avoiding the question. Why haven't whites assimilated to black churches?
The last thing you want is for whites to be like blacks. Do you really want white mobs beating down black people?

Because that's how you think of blacks, as people who form mobs and beat people?
It happens all the time.
All the time? Yeah, not an accurate description, I don't think.
Here is a mob beating from today. Like i said, its very common.


I wouldn't call 3 15-year-old girls a mob. :dunno:

Also, while the girl in the picture appears to be black, there's no indication of the other 2 involved in the assault.

Mob attacks happen, sure. I still question your use of the phrase "all the time," though.
Would you feel better if i said it is VERY common?

I'd feel better if I knew just how often you think it happens that mobs of black people beat others. As it is, I don't know if you'd consider once a day or once a month very common. :p
Its more common than lynchings of black people in the past. We STILL keep hearing about those, so surely you shouldnt be upset over complaints about modern day lynchings.

Modern day lynchings? You really do go all in with the hyperbole, don't you?
You sure dont like it when people bring up violent racist black mobs attacking people. What is that about?

Bring it up all you like. When you call 3 teenage girls a mob, when you say it happens all the time, though, you are being disingenuous about it. Calling people getting beat up by a mob the equivalent of "modern day lynchings" is minimizing lynchings, exaggerating mob violence today, or both.
Perhaps I'm wrong, but so far you've neither specified what you think constitutes "all the time" when it comes to black mobs beating people, nor provided much evidence. I don't doubt that it happens, I question your characterization of it as a common occurrence.
I can post HUNDREDS of black mob videos. Its very common. Im not sure why you would want to minimize this violent racism.

I'm not minimizing anything. I'm questioning what's true. Of your hundreds of "black mob videos," how many actually involve racist attacks? How many are actual mobs, rather than 2 or 3 people, such as the example you just gave a few posts ago? If 3 blacks beat up a white person, while a crime and a bad thing, it doesn't necessarily mean it's a racist mob attack.

You give the impression of having an anti-black agenda, which makes me question your claims. I don't doubt that mob attacks happen. I don't doubt that mob attacks in which the mob is made up of blacks happen. I don't doubt that attacks by black mobs happen due to racism. I do question just how common they are. I'm not sure why that seems so difficult for you to accept.
Only one racial group in this nation commits violent racist mob attacks, and yes, 3 or more people is a mob. Why are you STILL minimizing racist mob attacks?
I’m not. Why can’t you see the difference between minimizing attacks and questioning the veracity of unsupported, fairly vague claims?
My claims are fully supported. Among thousands of articles, you can spend HOURS on youtube watching clips of it. Quit minimizing racist violence, and quit acting like it isnt common.
 
Has there been more than 1 pastor arrested on television?

Not a single Black pastor has been arrested on television even though, as you see, Black churches are still meeting.

Now gosh ain't that a kick in the head? Later on, the Black community will say oh no oh no the disease is racist, the care we got is racist.

That's because white America doesn't care about black people getting sick or dying. That's why it doesn't make the news.

They rather see us die.
 
Has there been more than 1 pastor arrested on television?

Not a single Black pastor has been arrested on television even though, as you see, Black churches are still meeting.

Now gosh ain't that a kick in the head? Later on, the Black community will say oh no oh no the disease is racist, the care we got is racist.

That's because white America doesn't care about black people getting sick or dying. That's why it doesn't make the news.

They rather see us die.
It doesn’t make the news because they’d be called racist for pointing it out. It only makes the news if it can be blamed on republicans. And it will be. Just like Katrina.
 
To me, this is part of an issue I knew would arise from the implementation of policies designed to fight the virus:

The US Constitution provides the freedom to assemble and the right to religious freedom....Telling the American people they can not peacefully assemble and can not worship as they choose is a 'violation of the Constitution' / infringement of Constitutional Rights....

....versus the safety and well-being of the entire country.

I have several Constitutional Rights I am free to exercise....as long as doing so does not infringe on the Rights, safety, and well-being of others. Some people miss that part .... or simply ignore that part.

[In the news] (Extremely) Small town of Summerton, SC - A local resident decides to throw a massive barbeque for the entire town as a 'pick-me-up' for all his friends / neighbors in the midst of an on-going quarantine that have many people feeling isolated / down. Over half the town showed up.....and now over half the town have symptoms of COVID-19.
- YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID' & NOT EVERYONE HAS COMMON SENSE / THE ABILITY TO INTELIGENTLY EXERCISE THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.

The local sheriff was asked why he did not stop the event and threaten to fine / arrest the individual who held it. HE STATED HE COULD ONLY ENFORCE THE RULES / LAWS PASSED / PUT IN PLACE BY THE MAYOR AND GOVERNOR - NO SUCH RULES / LAWS HAVE BEEN PASSEED / INACTED BY THE SC GOV OR SUMMERTON MAYOR.

SC remains one of the last few states to issue a stay-at-home quarantine...and now Summerton, little tiny Summerton, has been recognized by THE CDC as a COVID-19 'Hot Spot'.

I am a Christian. I believe God does and can protect me from many things, but I think he gave us common sense to help us protect ourselves. During this worldwide pandemic God has enough to deal with - on top of everything else - without His followers exercising poor judgment and / or a lack of common sense by demanding God PROVE He protects us through putting ourselves in harm's way.

The church I attend is putting audio and video-taped messages / services out for every Sunday. Telephone, e-mail, Skype, web-pages, etc....we have more forms of communication in today than ever before... There is no reason to put people in jeopardy.......

I am not giving up my Constitutional Right to worship as I wish...for now, though, I choose to worship while not simultaneously putting my neighbors...and this country...at risk.

This is precisely the time we need to have these important debates. It's very easy to say yeah yeah our liberties are important when everything is going great and there are no threats. It is WHEN times are unsafe that you must take a stand for liberty. In fact, as the sheriff did. If you fold at the first sign of "but safety, safety!", then you're not really a proponent of liberty.

That some people will do stupid things with their liberty is not an argument for the government to rescind Constitutionally-protected liberties. I don't find that in the Bill of Rights. You might get away with a certain amount of something in an emergency situation. As these stay at home orders work their way up the courts and we get a feel for how big the emergency REALLY was here--we will see.

Last. "God has enough to deal with". God is never overwhelmed, nor is He even ever close to overwhelmed. That is humanizing God.
 
Has there been more than 1 pastor arrested on television?

Not a single Black pastor has been arrested on television even though, as you see, Black churches are still meeting.

Now gosh ain't that a kick in the head? Later on, the Black community will say oh no oh no the disease is racist, the care we got is racist.

That's because white America doesn't care about black people getting sick or dying. That's why it doesn't make the news.

They rather see us die.

Not this white American. That's why I started the thread on Detroit.

But I agree too many white Americans say stuff on the internet, when they can be anonymous, that is disgusting. Some of them pretend to be conservative, some of them are, lots of them are liberal. Many white liberals do not care one whit if black Americans actually have fulfilling, happy lives, so long as they stay in their lane.
 

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