Black Communities Ravaged by COVID-19. Black Churches Still Meeting.

And yet, AMAZINGLY, White Leftist Shamers on USMB are silent about it and we don't see any Black Pastors being arrested on television. We have fat crocodile tears about the "mega churches". (Black churches are never "mega churches" for some reason.)

I wonder why that is, any ideas?

When deciding to close the doors of black churches, congregational leaders across the US wrestle with unique considerations. Paul J. James, pastor of CareView Community Church in Lansdowne, Pennsylvania, noted in an interview with The Undefeated how closing is “counterintuitive to most churches, especially the black church… where we’re just glad to get together because of how hard life has been historically for us here in America. Church has been a safe place for us. It’s been a safe harbor. Now here we are faced with the inability to come together.”

Last week, the federal government strongly urged Americans not to gather in groups of more than 10, and restrictions keep coming. We suspect that many churches will close in the near future, but the decision will not been easy.

In St. Louis, the mayor hosted a teleconference with 300 clergy, including many of black churches, to urge them not to hold services. While some chose to stop meetings and modify their ministries, others struggled to make the change.

In Michigan, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer banned gatherings of more than 50 but then exempted churches from penalties. This will give some churches more options, though many are choosing to modify in some way. Triumph Church, which has seven locations in the Detroit area, will continue to gather in person, for now, though it expanded the number of services to reduce congregation size and is asking members to register ahead of time so it can maintain at least six feet between worshippers. It is also providing an online service and a drive-in service.

A lot of things inform these responses to the coronavirus outbreak: culture, histories of discrimination, and marginalization, as well as faith-based values. People experience events like COVID-19 not only as individuals but also in communities and in the social locations we inhabit. As social scientists—Deidra as a black woman doing research on HPV and Elaine as a white woman who studies how religious organizations respond to science—we offer some observations based on our research for the past 10 years at the Religion and Public Life Program at Rice University. We have been gathering upwards of 150 religious and civic leaders regularly to talk about how we can use social science research on religion to build common ground for the common good.

Drop the white victimhood lady. There are black mega churches. And apparently blacks in Florida aren't holding services in churches. And its always funny when a republican like you suddenly gets so concerned about blacks only after somebody white gets arrested for something that you can't see blacks getting arrested for.

Nobody black will be calling COVID19 a racist disease. But that's how you racists see black people. Normal non racist whites would not make that kind of comment.

Black churches need to close just like everybody else. But what you really need to do Sue is work on ending the racism in the white community that has you posting this instead of whining "what about black pastors, why don't they get arrested."
Why must there still be ‘black’ churches and why does everyone have to accept that without question?

Why are there black churches? Could it be because black folks couldn't attend the white ones. Duh.

Don't hurt em with documented history like that Superbad. They want to live with amnesia in peace.
And who is stopping them now? No one. Just because blacks refuse to integrate doesn’t mean non-blacks are segregationist. You have it completely on the wrong foot.
What's stopping whites from attending black churches? Answer that one.
The same thing that stops any assimilated American regardless of skin color.

Wrong. You want to make it like blacks are the racists when everything about the black relationship with whites is due to our response to white racism. That's why black churches exist, it is why black organizations exist, etc. We did not create the exclusion, whites did. There is no assimilation into white culture, there is a creation of a multi cultural nation that is inclusive.
If it was still 1965 you’d have a point.
But just as with so many other issues, the messenger becomes bigger than the message and must perpetuate and amplify a mostly non-existent problem in order to justify their existence.

Ok let's start from scratch here. Black folks were NOT ALLOWED to attend White churches up until the late 60s, so black folks had to create their OWN places of worship. After integration are you saying that we were suppose to just shut down ALL the black churches and go worship at white churches.
55 years is a long time. And you don’t have to shut black churches. Just encourage assimilation. But that would undermine the existence of the NAACP’s of the world.

So why don't whites assimilate to Black Churches if it's that easy.
You mean why don’t assimilated people become black? Black culture segregates itself in the name of perceived blackness and transcends geography. It’s rooted in skin color. Assimilated people reflect the culture of their region. Most are white but the skin color isn’t the predicate.
You have the shoe on the wrong foot.

Didn't answer the question, why haven't white folks started attending black churches. There is no ban of white folks in black churches so your analogy makes no sense.
Because they don’t identify with a self-segregating culture that defines itself by a different and specific skin color. It’s a foreign country. Africa America.

I guess that explains Irish-Americans, Italian-Americans, German-Americans, Polish-Americans, etc.
And they’ve all assimilated and speak the dialect of the region. Segregationist blacks speak the same dialect regardless of region. That puts it in perspective.

You are avoiding the question. Why haven't whites assimilated to black churches?
The last thing you want is for whites to be like blacks. Do you really want white mobs beating down black people?

Because that's how you think of blacks, as people who form mobs and beat people?
It happens all the time.
 
And yet, AMAZINGLY, White Leftist Shamers on USMB are silent about it and we don't see any Black Pastors being arrested on television. We have fat crocodile tears about the "mega churches". (Black churches are never "mega churches" for some reason.)

I wonder why that is, any ideas?

When deciding to close the doors of black churches, congregational leaders across the US wrestle with unique considerations. Paul J. James, pastor of CareView Community Church in Lansdowne, Pennsylvania, noted in an interview with The Undefeated how closing is “counterintuitive to most churches, especially the black church… where we’re just glad to get together because of how hard life has been historically for us here in America. Church has been a safe place for us. It’s been a safe harbor. Now here we are faced with the inability to come together.”

Last week, the federal government strongly urged Americans not to gather in groups of more than 10, and restrictions keep coming. We suspect that many churches will close in the near future, but the decision will not been easy.

In St. Louis, the mayor hosted a teleconference with 300 clergy, including many of black churches, to urge them not to hold services. While some chose to stop meetings and modify their ministries, others struggled to make the change.

In Michigan, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer banned gatherings of more than 50 but then exempted churches from penalties. This will give some churches more options, though many are choosing to modify in some way. Triumph Church, which has seven locations in the Detroit area, will continue to gather in person, for now, though it expanded the number of services to reduce congregation size and is asking members to register ahead of time so it can maintain at least six feet between worshippers. It is also providing an online service and a drive-in service.

A lot of things inform these responses to the coronavirus outbreak: culture, histories of discrimination, and marginalization, as well as faith-based values. People experience events like COVID-19 not only as individuals but also in communities and in the social locations we inhabit. As social scientists—Deidra as a black woman doing research on HPV and Elaine as a white woman who studies how religious organizations respond to science—we offer some observations based on our research for the past 10 years at the Religion and Public Life Program at Rice University. We have been gathering upwards of 150 religious and civic leaders regularly to talk about how we can use social science research on religion to build common ground for the common good.

Drop the white victimhood lady. There are black mega churches. And apparently blacks in Florida aren't holding services in churches. And its always funny when a republican like you suddenly gets so concerned about blacks only after somebody white gets arrested for something that you can't see blacks getting arrested for.

Nobody black will be calling COVID19 a racist disease. But that's how you racists see black people. Normal non racist whites would not make that kind of comment.

Black churches need to close just like everybody else. But what you really need to do Sue is work on ending the racism in the white community that has you posting this instead of whining "what about black pastors, why don't they get arrested."
Why must there still be ‘black’ churches and why does everyone have to accept that without question?

Why are there black churches? Could it be because black folks couldn't attend the white ones. Duh.

Don't hurt em with documented history like that Superbad. They want to live with amnesia in peace.
And who is stopping them now? No one. Just because blacks refuse to integrate doesn’t mean non-blacks are segregationist. You have it completely on the wrong foot.
What's stopping whites from attending black churches? Answer that one.
The same thing that stops any assimilated American regardless of skin color.

Wrong. You want to make it like blacks are the racists when everything about the black relationship with whites is due to our response to white racism. That's why black churches exist, it is why black organizations exist, etc. We did not create the exclusion, whites did. There is no assimilation into white culture, there is a creation of a multi cultural nation that is inclusive.
If it was still 1965 you’d have a point.
But just as with so many other issues, the messenger becomes bigger than the message and must perpetuate and amplify a mostly non-existent problem in order to justify their existence.

Ok let's start from scratch here. Black folks were NOT ALLOWED to attend White churches up until the late 60s, so black folks had to create their OWN places of worship. After integration are you saying that we were suppose to just shut down ALL the black churches and go worship at white churches.
55 years is a long time. And you don’t have to shut black churches. Just encourage assimilation. But that would undermine the existence of the NAACP’s of the world.

So why don't whites assimilate to Black Churches if it's that easy.
You mean why don’t assimilated people become black? Black culture segregates itself in the name of perceived blackness and transcends geography. It’s rooted in skin color. Assimilated people reflect the culture of their region. Most are white but the skin color isn’t the predicate.
You have the shoe on the wrong foot.

Didn't answer the question, why haven't white folks started attending black churches. There is no ban of white folks in black churches so your analogy makes no sense.
Because they don’t identify with a self-segregating culture that defines itself by a different and specific skin color. It’s a foreign country. Africa America.

I guess that explains Irish-Americans, Italian-Americans, German-Americans, Polish-Americans, etc.
And they’ve all assimilated and speak the dialect of the region. Segregationist blacks speak the same dialect regardless of region. That puts it in perspective.

You are avoiding the question. Why haven't whites assimilated to black churches?
The last thing you want is for whites to be like blacks. Do you really want white mobs beating down black people?

Because that's how you think of blacks, as people who form mobs and beat people?
It happens all the time.

Actually it doesn't. That's another white racist lie.

 
And yet, AMAZINGLY, White Leftist Shamers on USMB are silent about it and we don't see any Black Pastors being arrested on television. We have fat crocodile tears about the "mega churches". (Black churches are never "mega churches" for some reason.)

I wonder why that is, any ideas?

When deciding to close the doors of black churches, congregational leaders across the US wrestle with unique considerations. Paul J. James, pastor of CareView Community Church in Lansdowne, Pennsylvania, noted in an interview with The Undefeated how closing is “counterintuitive to most churches, especially the black church… where we’re just glad to get together because of how hard life has been historically for us here in America. Church has been a safe place for us. It’s been a safe harbor. Now here we are faced with the inability to come together.”

Last week, the federal government strongly urged Americans not to gather in groups of more than 10, and restrictions keep coming. We suspect that many churches will close in the near future, but the decision will not been easy.

In St. Louis, the mayor hosted a teleconference with 300 clergy, including many of black churches, to urge them not to hold services. While some chose to stop meetings and modify their ministries, others struggled to make the change.

In Michigan, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer banned gatherings of more than 50 but then exempted churches from penalties. This will give some churches more options, though many are choosing to modify in some way. Triumph Church, which has seven locations in the Detroit area, will continue to gather in person, for now, though it expanded the number of services to reduce congregation size and is asking members to register ahead of time so it can maintain at least six feet between worshippers. It is also providing an online service and a drive-in service.

A lot of things inform these responses to the coronavirus outbreak: culture, histories of discrimination, and marginalization, as well as faith-based values. People experience events like COVID-19 not only as individuals but also in communities and in the social locations we inhabit. As social scientists—Deidra as a black woman doing research on HPV and Elaine as a white woman who studies how religious organizations respond to science—we offer some observations based on our research for the past 10 years at the Religion and Public Life Program at Rice University. We have been gathering upwards of 150 religious and civic leaders regularly to talk about how we can use social science research on religion to build common ground for the common good.

Drop the white victimhood lady. There are black mega churches. And apparently blacks in Florida aren't holding services in churches. And its always funny when a republican like you suddenly gets so concerned about blacks only after somebody white gets arrested for something that you can't see blacks getting arrested for.

Nobody black will be calling COVID19 a racist disease. But that's how you racists see black people. Normal non racist whites would not make that kind of comment.

Black churches need to close just like everybody else. But what you really need to do Sue is work on ending the racism in the white community that has you posting this instead of whining "what about black pastors, why don't they get arrested."
Why must there still be ‘black’ churches and why does everyone have to accept that without question?

Why are there black churches? Could it be because black folks couldn't attend the white ones. Duh.

Don't hurt em with documented history like that Superbad. They want to live with amnesia in peace.
And who is stopping them now? No one. Just because blacks refuse to integrate doesn’t mean non-blacks are segregationist. You have it completely on the wrong foot.
What's stopping whites from attending black churches? Answer that one.
The same thing that stops any assimilated American regardless of skin color.

Wrong. You want to make it like blacks are the racists when everything about the black relationship with whites is due to our response to white racism. That's why black churches exist, it is why black organizations exist, etc. We did not create the exclusion, whites did. There is no assimilation into white culture, there is a creation of a multi cultural nation that is inclusive.
If it was still 1965 you’d have a point.
But just as with so many other issues, the messenger becomes bigger than the message and must perpetuate and amplify a mostly non-existent problem in order to justify their existence.

Ok let's start from scratch here. Black folks were NOT ALLOWED to attend White churches up until the late 60s, so black folks had to create their OWN places of worship. After integration are you saying that we were suppose to just shut down ALL the black churches and go worship at white churches.
55 years is a long time. And you don’t have to shut black churches. Just encourage assimilation. But that would undermine the existence of the NAACP’s of the world.

So why don't whites assimilate to Black Churches if it's that easy.
You mean why don’t assimilated people become black? Black culture segregates itself in the name of perceived blackness and transcends geography. It’s rooted in skin color. Assimilated people reflect the culture of their region. Most are white but the skin color isn’t the predicate.
You have the shoe on the wrong foot.

Didn't answer the question, why haven't white folks started attending black churches. There is no ban of white folks in black churches so your analogy makes no sense.
Because they don’t identify with a self-segregating culture that defines itself by a different and specific skin color. It’s a foreign country. Africa America.

I guess that explains Irish-Americans, Italian-Americans, German-Americans, Polish-Americans, etc.
And they’ve all assimilated and speak the dialect of the region. Segregationist blacks speak the same dialect regardless of region. That puts it in perspective.

You are avoiding the question. Why haven't whites assimilated to black churches?
The last thing you want is for whites to be like blacks. Do you really want white mobs beating down black people?

Because that's how you think of blacks, as people who form mobs and beat people?
It happens all the time.

Actually it doesn't. That's another white racist lie.

There are thousands of videos. What are you talking about?
 
And yet, AMAZINGLY, White Leftist Shamers on USMB are silent about it and we don't see any Black Pastors being arrested on television. We have fat crocodile tears about the "mega churches". (Black churches are never "mega churches" for some reason.)

I wonder why that is, any ideas?

When deciding to close the doors of black churches, congregational leaders across the US wrestle with unique considerations. Paul J. James, pastor of CareView Community Church in Lansdowne, Pennsylvania, noted in an interview with The Undefeated how closing is “counterintuitive to most churches, especially the black church… where we’re just glad to get together because of how hard life has been historically for us here in America. Church has been a safe place for us. It’s been a safe harbor. Now here we are faced with the inability to come together.”

Last week, the federal government strongly urged Americans not to gather in groups of more than 10, and restrictions keep coming. We suspect that many churches will close in the near future, but the decision will not been easy.

In St. Louis, the mayor hosted a teleconference with 300 clergy, including many of black churches, to urge them not to hold services. While some chose to stop meetings and modify their ministries, others struggled to make the change.

In Michigan, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer banned gatherings of more than 50 but then exempted churches from penalties. This will give some churches more options, though many are choosing to modify in some way. Triumph Church, which has seven locations in the Detroit area, will continue to gather in person, for now, though it expanded the number of services to reduce congregation size and is asking members to register ahead of time so it can maintain at least six feet between worshippers. It is also providing an online service and a drive-in service.

A lot of things inform these responses to the coronavirus outbreak: culture, histories of discrimination, and marginalization, as well as faith-based values. People experience events like COVID-19 not only as individuals but also in communities and in the social locations we inhabit. As social scientists—Deidra as a black woman doing research on HPV and Elaine as a white woman who studies how religious organizations respond to science—we offer some observations based on our research for the past 10 years at the Religion and Public Life Program at Rice University. We have been gathering upwards of 150 religious and civic leaders regularly to talk about how we can use social science research on religion to build common ground for the common good.

Drop the white victimhood lady. There are black mega churches. And apparently blacks in Florida aren't holding services in churches. And its always funny when a republican like you suddenly gets so concerned about blacks only after somebody white gets arrested for something that you can't see blacks getting arrested for.

Nobody black will be calling COVID19 a racist disease. But that's how you racists see black people. Normal non racist whites would not make that kind of comment.

Black churches need to close just like everybody else. But what you really need to do Sue is work on ending the racism in the white community that has you posting this instead of whining "what about black pastors, why don't they get arrested."
Why must there still be ‘black’ churches and why does everyone have to accept that without question?

Why are there black churches? Could it be because black folks couldn't attend the white ones. Duh.

Don't hurt em with documented history like that Superbad. They want to live with amnesia in peace.
And who is stopping them now? No one. Just because blacks refuse to integrate doesn’t mean non-blacks are segregationist. You have it completely on the wrong foot.
What's stopping whites from attending black churches? Answer that one.
The same thing that stops any assimilated American regardless of skin color.

Wrong. You want to make it like blacks are the racists when everything about the black relationship with whites is due to our response to white racism. That's why black churches exist, it is why black organizations exist, etc. We did not create the exclusion, whites did. There is no assimilation into white culture, there is a creation of a multi cultural nation that is inclusive.
If it was still 1965 you’d have a point.
But just as with so many other issues, the messenger becomes bigger than the message and must perpetuate and amplify a mostly non-existent problem in order to justify their existence.

Ok let's start from scratch here. Black folks were NOT ALLOWED to attend White churches up until the late 60s, so black folks had to create their OWN places of worship. After integration are you saying that we were suppose to just shut down ALL the black churches and go worship at white churches.
55 years is a long time. And you don’t have to shut black churches. Just encourage assimilation. But that would undermine the existence of the NAACP’s of the world.

So why don't whites assimilate to Black Churches if it's that easy.
You mean why don’t assimilated people become black? Black culture segregates itself in the name of perceived blackness and transcends geography. It’s rooted in skin color. Assimilated people reflect the culture of their region. Most are white but the skin color isn’t the predicate.
You have the shoe on the wrong foot.

Didn't answer the question, why haven't white folks started attending black churches. There is no ban of white folks in black churches so your analogy makes no sense.
Because they don’t identify with a self-segregating culture that defines itself by a different and specific skin color. It’s a foreign country. Africa America.

I guess that explains Irish-Americans, Italian-Americans, German-Americans, Polish-Americans, etc.
And they’ve all assimilated and speak the dialect of the region. Segregationist blacks speak the same dialect regardless of region. That puts it in perspective.

You are avoiding the question. Why haven't whites assimilated to black churches?
The last thing you want is for whites to be like blacks. Do you really want white mobs beating down black people?

Because that's how you think of blacks, as people who form mobs and beat people?
It happens all the time.
All the time? Yeah, not an accurate description, I don't think.
 
And yet, AMAZINGLY, White Leftist Shamers on USMB are silent about it and we don't see any Black Pastors being arrested on television. We have fat crocodile tears about the "mega churches". (Black churches are never "mega churches" for some reason.)

I wonder why that is, any ideas?

When deciding to close the doors of black churches, congregational leaders across the US wrestle with unique considerations. Paul J. James, pastor of CareView Community Church in Lansdowne, Pennsylvania, noted in an interview with The Undefeated how closing is “counterintuitive to most churches, especially the black church… where we’re just glad to get together because of how hard life has been historically for us here in America. Church has been a safe place for us. It’s been a safe harbor. Now here we are faced with the inability to come together.”

Last week, the federal government strongly urged Americans not to gather in groups of more than 10, and restrictions keep coming. We suspect that many churches will close in the near future, but the decision will not been easy.

In St. Louis, the mayor hosted a teleconference with 300 clergy, including many of black churches, to urge them not to hold services. While some chose to stop meetings and modify their ministries, others struggled to make the change.

In Michigan, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer banned gatherings of more than 50 but then exempted churches from penalties. This will give some churches more options, though many are choosing to modify in some way. Triumph Church, which has seven locations in the Detroit area, will continue to gather in person, for now, though it expanded the number of services to reduce congregation size and is asking members to register ahead of time so it can maintain at least six feet between worshippers. It is also providing an online service and a drive-in service.

A lot of things inform these responses to the coronavirus outbreak: culture, histories of discrimination, and marginalization, as well as faith-based values. People experience events like COVID-19 not only as individuals but also in communities and in the social locations we inhabit. As social scientists—Deidra as a black woman doing research on HPV and Elaine as a white woman who studies how religious organizations respond to science—we offer some observations based on our research for the past 10 years at the Religion and Public Life Program at Rice University. We have been gathering upwards of 150 religious and civic leaders regularly to talk about how we can use social science research on religion to build common ground for the common good.

Drop the white victimhood lady. There are black mega churches. And apparently blacks in Florida aren't holding services in churches. And its always funny when a republican like you suddenly gets so concerned about blacks only after somebody white gets arrested for something that you can't see blacks getting arrested for.

Nobody black will be calling COVID19 a racist disease. But that's how you racists see black people. Normal non racist whites would not make that kind of comment.

Black churches need to close just like everybody else. But what you really need to do Sue is work on ending the racism in the white community that has you posting this instead of whining "what about black pastors, why don't they get arrested."
Why must there still be ‘black’ churches and why does everyone have to accept that without question?
Why are there still white churches and why does everyone have to accept that without question?
What does that even mean-- "why are there white churches?
 
And yet, AMAZINGLY, White Leftist Shamers on USMB are silent about it and we don't see any Black Pastors being arrested on television. We have fat crocodile tears about the "mega churches". (Black churches are never "mega churches" for some reason.)

I wonder why that is, any ideas?

When deciding to close the doors of black churches, congregational leaders across the US wrestle with unique considerations. Paul J. James, pastor of CareView Community Church in Lansdowne, Pennsylvania, noted in an interview with The Undefeated how closing is “counterintuitive to most churches, especially the black church… where we’re just glad to get together because of how hard life has been historically for us here in America. Church has been a safe place for us. It’s been a safe harbor. Now here we are faced with the inability to come together.”

Last week, the federal government strongly urged Americans not to gather in groups of more than 10, and restrictions keep coming. We suspect that many churches will close in the near future, but the decision will not been easy.

In St. Louis, the mayor hosted a teleconference with 300 clergy, including many of black churches, to urge them not to hold services. While some chose to stop meetings and modify their ministries, others struggled to make the change.

In Michigan, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer banned gatherings of more than 50 but then exempted churches from penalties. This will give some churches more options, though many are choosing to modify in some way. Triumph Church, which has seven locations in the Detroit area, will continue to gather in person, for now, though it expanded the number of services to reduce congregation size and is asking members to register ahead of time so it can maintain at least six feet between worshippers. It is also providing an online service and a drive-in service.

A lot of things inform these responses to the coronavirus outbreak: culture, histories of discrimination, and marginalization, as well as faith-based values. People experience events like COVID-19 not only as individuals but also in communities and in the social locations we inhabit. As social scientists—Deidra as a black woman doing research on HPV and Elaine as a white woman who studies how religious organizations respond to science—we offer some observations based on our research for the past 10 years at the Religion and Public Life Program at Rice University. We have been gathering upwards of 150 religious and civic leaders regularly to talk about how we can use social science research on religion to build common ground for the common good.

Drop the white victimhood lady. There are black mega churches. And apparently blacks in Florida aren't holding services in churches. And its always funny when a republican like you suddenly gets so concerned about blacks only after somebody white gets arrested for something that you can't see blacks getting arrested for.

Nobody black will be calling COVID19 a racist disease. But that's how you racists see black people. Normal non racist whites would not make that kind of comment.

Black churches need to close just like everybody else. But what you really need to do Sue is work on ending the racism in the white community that has you posting this instead of whining "what about black pastors, why don't they get arrested."
Why must there still be ‘black’ churches and why does everyone have to accept that without question?

Why are there black churches? Could it be because black folks couldn't attend the white ones. Duh.

Don't hurt em with documented history like that Superbad. They want to live with amnesia in peace.
And who is stopping them now? No one. Just because blacks refuse to integrate doesn’t mean non-blacks are segregationist. You have it completely on the wrong foot.
What's stopping whites from attending black churches? Answer that one.
The same thing that stops any assimilated American regardless of skin color.

Wrong. You want to make it like blacks are the racists when everything about the black relationship with whites is due to our response to white racism. That's why black churches exist, it is why black organizations exist, etc. We did not create the exclusion, whites did. There is no assimilation into white culture, there is a creation of a multi cultural nation that is inclusive.
If it was still 1965 you’d have a point.
But just as with so many other issues, the messenger becomes bigger than the message and must perpetuate and amplify a mostly non-existent problem in order to justify their existence.

Ok let's start from scratch here. Black folks were NOT ALLOWED to attend White churches up until the late 60s, so black folks had to create their OWN places of worship. After integration are you saying that we were suppose to just shut down ALL the black churches and go worship at white churches.
55 years is a long time. And you don’t have to shut black churches. Just encourage assimilation. But that would undermine the existence of the NAACP’s of the world.

So why don't whites assimilate to Black Churches if it's that easy.
You mean why don’t assimilated people become black? Black culture segregates itself in the name of perceived blackness and transcends geography. It’s rooted in skin color. Assimilated people reflect the culture of their region. Most are white but the skin color isn’t the predicate.
You have the shoe on the wrong foot.

Didn't answer the question, why haven't white folks started attending black churches. There is no ban of white folks in black churches so your analogy makes no sense.
Because they don’t identify with a self-segregating culture that defines itself by a different and specific skin color. It’s a foreign country. Africa America.

I guess that explains Irish-Americans, Italian-Americans, German-Americans, Polish-Americans, etc.
And they’ve all assimilated and speak the dialect of the region. Segregationist blacks speak the same dialect regardless of region. That puts it in perspective.

You are avoiding the question. Why haven't whites assimilated to black churches?
The last thing you want is for whites to be like blacks. Do you really want white mobs beating down black people?

I find comments from whites like this funny. It shows a person with a severe mental disorder.
 
And yet, AMAZINGLY, White Leftist Shamers on USMB are silent about it and we don't see any Black Pastors being arrested on television. We have fat crocodile tears about the "mega churches". (Black churches are never "mega churches" for some reason.)

I wonder why that is, any ideas?

When deciding to close the doors of black churches, congregational leaders across the US wrestle with unique considerations. Paul J. James, pastor of CareView Community Church in Lansdowne, Pennsylvania, noted in an interview with The Undefeated how closing is “counterintuitive to most churches, especially the black church… where we’re just glad to get together because of how hard life has been historically for us here in America. Church has been a safe place for us. It’s been a safe harbor. Now here we are faced with the inability to come together.”

Last week, the federal government strongly urged Americans not to gather in groups of more than 10, and restrictions keep coming. We suspect that many churches will close in the near future, but the decision will not been easy.

In St. Louis, the mayor hosted a teleconference with 300 clergy, including many of black churches, to urge them not to hold services. While some chose to stop meetings and modify their ministries, others struggled to make the change.

In Michigan, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer banned gatherings of more than 50 but then exempted churches from penalties. This will give some churches more options, though many are choosing to modify in some way. Triumph Church, which has seven locations in the Detroit area, will continue to gather in person, for now, though it expanded the number of services to reduce congregation size and is asking members to register ahead of time so it can maintain at least six feet between worshippers. It is also providing an online service and a drive-in service.

A lot of things inform these responses to the coronavirus outbreak: culture, histories of discrimination, and marginalization, as well as faith-based values. People experience events like COVID-19 not only as individuals but also in communities and in the social locations we inhabit. As social scientists—Deidra as a black woman doing research on HPV and Elaine as a white woman who studies how religious organizations respond to science—we offer some observations based on our research for the past 10 years at the Religion and Public Life Program at Rice University. We have been gathering upwards of 150 religious and civic leaders regularly to talk about how we can use social science research on religion to build common ground for the common good.

Drop the white victimhood lady. There are black mega churches. And apparently blacks in Florida aren't holding services in churches. And its always funny when a republican like you suddenly gets so concerned about blacks only after somebody white gets arrested for something that you can't see blacks getting arrested for.

Nobody black will be calling COVID19 a racist disease. But that's how you racists see black people. Normal non racist whites would not make that kind of comment.

Black churches need to close just like everybody else. But what you really need to do Sue is work on ending the racism in the white community that has you posting this instead of whining "what about black pastors, why don't they get arrested."
Why must there still be ‘black’ churches and why does everyone have to accept that without question?
Why are there still white churches and why does everyone have to accept that without question?
What does that even mean-- "why are there white churches?
You know what that means. Don't even try pretending otherwise.
 
And yet, AMAZINGLY, White Leftist Shamers on USMB are silent about it and we don't see any Black Pastors being arrested on television. We have fat crocodile tears about the "mega churches". (Black churches are never "mega churches" for some reason.)

I wonder why that is, any ideas?

When deciding to close the doors of black churches, congregational leaders across the US wrestle with unique considerations. Paul J. James, pastor of CareView Community Church in Lansdowne, Pennsylvania, noted in an interview with The Undefeated how closing is “counterintuitive to most churches, especially the black church… where we’re just glad to get together because of how hard life has been historically for us here in America. Church has been a safe place for us. It’s been a safe harbor. Now here we are faced with the inability to come together.”

Last week, the federal government strongly urged Americans not to gather in groups of more than 10, and restrictions keep coming. We suspect that many churches will close in the near future, but the decision will not been easy.

In St. Louis, the mayor hosted a teleconference with 300 clergy, including many of black churches, to urge them not to hold services. While some chose to stop meetings and modify their ministries, others struggled to make the change.

In Michigan, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer banned gatherings of more than 50 but then exempted churches from penalties. This will give some churches more options, though many are choosing to modify in some way. Triumph Church, which has seven locations in the Detroit area, will continue to gather in person, for now, though it expanded the number of services to reduce congregation size and is asking members to register ahead of time so it can maintain at least six feet between worshippers. It is also providing an online service and a drive-in service.

A lot of things inform these responses to the coronavirus outbreak: culture, histories of discrimination, and marginalization, as well as faith-based values. People experience events like COVID-19 not only as individuals but also in communities and in the social locations we inhabit. As social scientists—Deidra as a black woman doing research on HPV and Elaine as a white woman who studies how religious organizations respond to science—we offer some observations based on our research for the past 10 years at the Religion and Public Life Program at Rice University. We have been gathering upwards of 150 religious and civic leaders regularly to talk about how we can use social science research on religion to build common ground for the common good.

Drop the white victimhood lady. There are black mega churches. And apparently blacks in Florida aren't holding services in churches. And its always funny when a republican like you suddenly gets so concerned about blacks only after somebody white gets arrested for something that you can't see blacks getting arrested for.

Nobody black will be calling COVID19 a racist disease. But that's how you racists see black people. Normal non racist whites would not make that kind of comment.

Black churches need to close just like everybody else. But what you really need to do Sue is work on ending the racism in the white community that has you posting this instead of whining "what about black pastors, why don't they get arrested."
Why must there still be ‘black’ churches and why does everyone have to accept that without question?
Why are there still white churches and why does everyone have to accept that without question?
What does that even mean-- "why are there white churches?
You know what that means. Don't even try pretending otherwise.
There should be no white churches. I guess that means where whites are predominant. I've never seen a church where Africans were not allowed.
.so basically F your racist self. You dont have a say in who attends church.
 
Mods I'm amazed you haven't moved this to the Race forum. This thread somehow became about everything Black v. White but was REALLY intended to be this: Black churches are still meeting and no one seems upset about this. To my knowledge, it is April 5th and still no Black pastors have been arrested.

So here we are.

This thread somehow became about everything Black v. White like it was supposed to, so here we are. Lets us all act shocked.
 
And yet, AMAZINGLY, White Leftist Shamers on USMB are silent about it and we don't see any Black Pastors being arrested on television. We have fat crocodile tears about the "mega churches". (Black churches are never "mega churches" for some reason.)

I wonder why that is, any ideas?

When deciding to close the doors of black churches, congregational leaders across the US wrestle with unique considerations. Paul J. James, pastor of CareView Community Church in Lansdowne, Pennsylvania, noted in an interview with The Undefeated how closing is “counterintuitive to most churches, especially the black church… where we’re just glad to get together because of how hard life has been historically for us here in America. Church has been a safe place for us. It’s been a safe harbor. Now here we are faced with the inability to come together.”

Last week, the federal government strongly urged Americans not to gather in groups of more than 10, and restrictions keep coming. We suspect that many churches will close in the near future, but the decision will not been easy.

In St. Louis, the mayor hosted a teleconference with 300 clergy, including many of black churches, to urge them not to hold services. While some chose to stop meetings and modify their ministries, others struggled to make the change.

In Michigan, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer banned gatherings of more than 50 but then exempted churches from penalties. This will give some churches more options, though many are choosing to modify in some way. Triumph Church, which has seven locations in the Detroit area, will continue to gather in person, for now, though it expanded the number of services to reduce congregation size and is asking members to register ahead of time so it can maintain at least six feet between worshippers. It is also providing an online service and a drive-in service.

A lot of things inform these responses to the coronavirus outbreak: culture, histories of discrimination, and marginalization, as well as faith-based values. People experience events like COVID-19 not only as individuals but also in communities and in the social locations we inhabit. As social scientists—Deidra as a black woman doing research on HPV and Elaine as a white woman who studies how religious organizations respond to science—we offer some observations based on our research for the past 10 years at the Religion and Public Life Program at Rice University. We have been gathering upwards of 150 religious and civic leaders regularly to talk about how we can use social science research on religion to build common ground for the common good.

Drop the white victimhood lady. There are black mega churches. And apparently blacks in Florida aren't holding services in churches. And its always funny when a republican like you suddenly gets so concerned about blacks only after somebody white gets arrested for something that you can't see blacks getting arrested for.

Nobody black will be calling COVID19 a racist disease. But that's how you racists see black people. Normal non racist whites would not make that kind of comment.

Black churches need to close just like everybody else. But what you really need to do Sue is work on ending the racism in the white community that has you posting this instead of whining "what about black pastors, why don't they get arrested."
Why must there still be ‘black’ churches and why does everyone have to accept that without question?
Why are there still white churches and why does everyone have to accept that without question?
What does that even mean-- "why are there white churches?
You know what that means. Don't even try pretending otherwise.
There should be no white churches. I guess that means where whites are predominant. I've never seen a church where Africans were not allowed.
.so basically F your racist self. You dont have a say in who attends church.

America certainly wants to have a say in who attends mosques.
 
Mods I'm amazed you haven't moved this to the Race forum. This thread somehow became about everything Black v. White but was REALLY intended to be this: Black churches are still meeting and no one seems upset about this. To my knowledge, it is April 5th and still no Black pastors have been arrested.

So here we are.

White churches are still meeting as well, so if 2 black pastors were arrested would you be happy?

They won't be. They won't be even though COVID is disproportionately ravaging the black community.

That's the entire point of this thread.

So how is the Corona virus ravaging black communities more than it is ravaging white communities?

Are you denying that white churches are still having services as well.

Also if 2 black pastor are arrested would that make you feel better?
Sue is another white "expert" on the black community.

I never knew so many whites had taken up African-American Studies curricula.
 
And yet, AMAZINGLY, White Leftist Shamers on USMB are silent about it and we don't see any Black Pastors being arrested on television. We have fat crocodile tears about the "mega churches". (Black churches are never "mega churches" for some reason.)

I wonder why that is, any ideas?

When deciding to close the doors of black churches, congregational leaders across the US wrestle with unique considerations. Paul J. James, pastor of CareView Community Church in Lansdowne, Pennsylvania, noted in an interview with The Undefeated how closing is “counterintuitive to most churches, especially the black church… where we’re just glad to get together because of how hard life has been historically for us here in America. Church has been a safe place for us. It’s been a safe harbor. Now here we are faced with the inability to come together.”

Last week, the federal government strongly urged Americans not to gather in groups of more than 10, and restrictions keep coming. We suspect that many churches will close in the near future, but the decision will not been easy.

In St. Louis, the mayor hosted a teleconference with 300 clergy, including many of black churches, to urge them not to hold services. While some chose to stop meetings and modify their ministries, others struggled to make the change.

In Michigan, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer banned gatherings of more than 50 but then exempted churches from penalties. This will give some churches more options, though many are choosing to modify in some way. Triumph Church, which has seven locations in the Detroit area, will continue to gather in person, for now, though it expanded the number of services to reduce congregation size and is asking members to register ahead of time so it can maintain at least six feet between worshippers. It is also providing an online service and a drive-in service.

A lot of things inform these responses to the coronavirus outbreak: culture, histories of discrimination, and marginalization, as well as faith-based values. People experience events like COVID-19 not only as individuals but also in communities and in the social locations we inhabit. As social scientists—Deidra as a black woman doing research on HPV and Elaine as a white woman who studies how religious organizations respond to science—we offer some observations based on our research for the past 10 years at the Religion and Public Life Program at Rice University. We have been gathering upwards of 150 religious and civic leaders regularly to talk about how we can use social science research on religion to build common ground for the common good.

Drop the white victimhood lady. There are black mega churches. And apparently blacks in Florida aren't holding services in churches. And its always funny when a republican like you suddenly gets so concerned about blacks only after somebody white gets arrested for something that you can't see blacks getting arrested for.

Nobody black will be calling COVID19 a racist disease. But that's how you racists see black people. Normal non racist whites would not make that kind of comment.

Black churches need to close just like everybody else. But what you really need to do Sue is work on ending the racism in the white community that has you posting this instead of whining "what about black pastors, why don't they get arrested."
Why must there still be ‘black’ churches and why does everyone have to accept that without question?
Why are there still white churches and why does everyone have to accept that without question?
What does that even mean-- "why are there white churches?
You know what that means. Don't even try pretending otherwise.
There should be no white churches. I guess that means where whites are predominant. I've never seen a church where Africans were not allowed.
.so basically F your racist self. You dont have a say in who attends church.

America certainly wants to have a say in who attends mosques.
Have you read what they teach? Of course you havent
 
And yet, AMAZINGLY, White Leftist Shamers on USMB are silent about it and we don't see any Black Pastors being arrested on television. We have fat crocodile tears about the "mega churches". (Black churches are never "mega churches" for some reason.)

I wonder why that is, any ideas?

When deciding to close the doors of black churches, congregational leaders across the US wrestle with unique considerations. Paul J. James, pastor of CareView Community Church in Lansdowne, Pennsylvania, noted in an interview with The Undefeated how closing is “counterintuitive to most churches, especially the black church… where we’re just glad to get together because of how hard life has been historically for us here in America. Church has been a safe place for us. It’s been a safe harbor. Now here we are faced with the inability to come together.”

Last week, the federal government strongly urged Americans not to gather in groups of more than 10, and restrictions keep coming. We suspect that many churches will close in the near future, but the decision will not been easy.

In St. Louis, the mayor hosted a teleconference with 300 clergy, including many of black churches, to urge them not to hold services. While some chose to stop meetings and modify their ministries, others struggled to make the change.

In Michigan, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer banned gatherings of more than 50 but then exempted churches from penalties. This will give some churches more options, though many are choosing to modify in some way. Triumph Church, which has seven locations in the Detroit area, will continue to gather in person, for now, though it expanded the number of services to reduce congregation size and is asking members to register ahead of time so it can maintain at least six feet between worshippers. It is also providing an online service and a drive-in service.

A lot of things inform these responses to the coronavirus outbreak: culture, histories of discrimination, and marginalization, as well as faith-based values. People experience events like COVID-19 not only as individuals but also in communities and in the social locations we inhabit. As social scientists—Deidra as a black woman doing research on HPV and Elaine as a white woman who studies how religious organizations respond to science—we offer some observations based on our research for the past 10 years at the Religion and Public Life Program at Rice University. We have been gathering upwards of 150 religious and civic leaders regularly to talk about how we can use social science research on religion to build common ground for the common good.

Drop the white victimhood lady. There are black mega churches. And apparently blacks in Florida aren't holding services in churches. And its always funny when a republican like you suddenly gets so concerned about blacks only after somebody white gets arrested for something that you can't see blacks getting arrested for.

Nobody black will be calling COVID19 a racist disease. But that's how you racists see black people. Normal non racist whites would not make that kind of comment.

Black churches need to close just like everybody else. But what you really need to do Sue is work on ending the racism in the white community that has you posting this instead of whining "what about black pastors, why don't they get arrested."
Why must there still be ‘black’ churches and why does everyone have to accept that without question?

Why are there black churches? Could it be because black folks couldn't attend the white ones. Duh.

Don't hurt em with documented history like that Superbad. They want to live with amnesia in peace.
And who is stopping them now? No one. Just because blacks refuse to integrate doesn’t mean non-blacks are segregationist. You have it completely on the wrong foot.
What's stopping whites from attending black churches? Answer that one.
The same thing that stops any assimilated American regardless of skin color.

Wrong. You want to make it like blacks are the racists when everything about the black relationship with whites is due to our response to white racism. That's why black churches exist, it is why black organizations exist, etc. We did not create the exclusion, whites did. There is no assimilation into white culture, there is a creation of a multi cultural nation that is inclusive.
If it was still 1965 you’d have a point.
But just as with so many other issues, the messenger becomes bigger than the message and must perpetuate and amplify a mostly non-existent problem in order to justify their existence.

Ok let's start from scratch here. Black folks were NOT ALLOWED to attend White churches up until the late 60s, so black folks had to create their OWN places of worship. After integration are you saying that we were suppose to just shut down ALL the black churches and go worship at white churches.
55 years is a long time. And you don’t have to shut black churches. Just encourage assimilation. But that would undermine the existence of the NAACP’s of the world.

So why don't whites assimilate to Black Churches if it's that easy.
You mean why don’t assimilated people become black? Black culture segregates itself in the name of perceived blackness and transcends geography. It’s rooted in skin color. Assimilated people reflect the culture of their region. Most are white but the skin color isn’t the predicate.
You have the shoe on the wrong foot.

Didn't answer the question, why haven't white folks started attending black churches. There is no ban of white folks in black churches so your analogy makes no sense.
Because they don’t identify with a self-segregating culture that defines itself by a different and specific skin color. It’s a foreign country. Africa America.

I guess that explains Irish-Americans, Italian-Americans, German-Americans, Polish-Americans, etc.
And they’ve all assimilated and speak the dialect of the region. Segregationist blacks speak the same dialect regardless of region. That puts it in perspective.

You are avoiding the question. Why haven't whites assimilated to black churches?
The last thing you want is for whites to be like blacks. Do you really want white mobs beating down black people?

Because that's how you think of blacks, as people who form mobs and beat people?
It happens all the time.
All the time? Yeah, not an accurate description, I don't think.
Here is a mob beating from today. Like i said, its very common.

 
And yet, AMAZINGLY, White Leftist Shamers on USMB are silent about it and we don't see any Black Pastors being arrested on television. We have fat crocodile tears about the "mega churches". (Black churches are never "mega churches" for some reason.)

I wonder why that is, any ideas?

When deciding to close the doors of black churches, congregational leaders across the US wrestle with unique considerations. Paul J. James, pastor of CareView Community Church in Lansdowne, Pennsylvania, noted in an interview with The Undefeated how closing is “counterintuitive to most churches, especially the black church… where we’re just glad to get together because of how hard life has been historically for us here in America. Church has been a safe place for us. It’s been a safe harbor. Now here we are faced with the inability to come together.”

Last week, the federal government strongly urged Americans not to gather in groups of more than 10, and restrictions keep coming. We suspect that many churches will close in the near future, but the decision will not been easy.

In St. Louis, the mayor hosted a teleconference with 300 clergy, including many of black churches, to urge them not to hold services. While some chose to stop meetings and modify their ministries, others struggled to make the change.

In Michigan, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer banned gatherings of more than 50 but then exempted churches from penalties. This will give some churches more options, though many are choosing to modify in some way. Triumph Church, which has seven locations in the Detroit area, will continue to gather in person, for now, though it expanded the number of services to reduce congregation size and is asking members to register ahead of time so it can maintain at least six feet between worshippers. It is also providing an online service and a drive-in service.

A lot of things inform these responses to the coronavirus outbreak: culture, histories of discrimination, and marginalization, as well as faith-based values. People experience events like COVID-19 not only as individuals but also in communities and in the social locations we inhabit. As social scientists—Deidra as a black woman doing research on HPV and Elaine as a white woman who studies how religious organizations respond to science—we offer some observations based on our research for the past 10 years at the Religion and Public Life Program at Rice University. We have been gathering upwards of 150 religious and civic leaders regularly to talk about how we can use social science research on religion to build common ground for the common good.

Drop the white victimhood lady. There are black mega churches. And apparently blacks in Florida aren't holding services in churches. And its always funny when a republican like you suddenly gets so concerned about blacks only after somebody white gets arrested for something that you can't see blacks getting arrested for.

Nobody black will be calling COVID19 a racist disease. But that's how you racists see black people. Normal non racist whites would not make that kind of comment.

Black churches need to close just like everybody else. But what you really need to do Sue is work on ending the racism in the white community that has you posting this instead of whining "what about black pastors, why don't they get arrested."
Why must there still be ‘black’ churches and why does everyone have to accept that without question?

Why are there black churches? Could it be because black folks couldn't attend the white ones. Duh.

Don't hurt em with documented history like that Superbad. They want to live with amnesia in peace.
And who is stopping them now? No one. Just because blacks refuse to integrate doesn’t mean non-blacks are segregationist. You have it completely on the wrong foot.
What's stopping whites from attending black churches? Answer that one.
The same thing that stops any assimilated American regardless of skin color.

Wrong. You want to make it like blacks are the racists when everything about the black relationship with whites is due to our response to white racism. That's why black churches exist, it is why black organizations exist, etc. We did not create the exclusion, whites did. There is no assimilation into white culture, there is a creation of a multi cultural nation that is inclusive.
If it was still 1965 you’d have a point.
But just as with so many other issues, the messenger becomes bigger than the message and must perpetuate and amplify a mostly non-existent problem in order to justify their existence.

Ok let's start from scratch here. Black folks were NOT ALLOWED to attend White churches up until the late 60s, so black folks had to create their OWN places of worship. After integration are you saying that we were suppose to just shut down ALL the black churches and go worship at white churches.
55 years is a long time. And you don’t have to shut black churches. Just encourage assimilation. But that would undermine the existence of the NAACP’s of the world.

So why don't whites assimilate to Black Churches if it's that easy.
You mean why don’t assimilated people become black? Black culture segregates itself in the name of perceived blackness and transcends geography. It’s rooted in skin color. Assimilated people reflect the culture of their region. Most are white but the skin color isn’t the predicate.
You have the shoe on the wrong foot.

Didn't answer the question, why haven't white folks started attending black churches. There is no ban of white folks in black churches so your analogy makes no sense.
Because they don’t identify with a self-segregating culture that defines itself by a different and specific skin color. It’s a foreign country. Africa America.

I guess that explains Irish-Americans, Italian-Americans, German-Americans, Polish-Americans, etc.
And they’ve all assimilated and speak the dialect of the region. Segregationist blacks speak the same dialect regardless of region. That puts it in perspective.

You are avoiding the question. Why haven't whites assimilated to black churches?
The last thing you want is for whites to be like blacks. Do you really want white mobs beating down black people?

Because that's how you think of blacks, as people who form mobs and beat people?
It happens all the time.
All the time? Yeah, not an accurate description, I don't think.
Here is a mob beating from today. Like i said, its very common.

That's a "her"??? What a hottie!

BusAssault1.jpg
 
And yet, AMAZINGLY, White Leftist Shamers on USMB are silent about it and we don't see any Black Pastors being arrested on television. We have fat crocodile tears about the "mega churches". (Black churches are never "mega churches" for some reason.)

I wonder why that is, any ideas?

When deciding to close the doors of black churches, congregational leaders across the US wrestle with unique considerations. Paul J. James, pastor of CareView Community Church in Lansdowne, Pennsylvania, noted in an interview with The Undefeated how closing is “counterintuitive to most churches, especially the black church… where we’re just glad to get together because of how hard life has been historically for us here in America. Church has been a safe place for us. It’s been a safe harbor. Now here we are faced with the inability to come together.”

Last week, the federal government strongly urged Americans not to gather in groups of more than 10, and restrictions keep coming. We suspect that many churches will close in the near future, but the decision will not been easy.

In St. Louis, the mayor hosted a teleconference with 300 clergy, including many of black churches, to urge them not to hold services. While some chose to stop meetings and modify their ministries, others struggled to make the change.

In Michigan, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer banned gatherings of more than 50 but then exempted churches from penalties. This will give some churches more options, though many are choosing to modify in some way. Triumph Church, which has seven locations in the Detroit area, will continue to gather in person, for now, though it expanded the number of services to reduce congregation size and is asking members to register ahead of time so it can maintain at least six feet between worshippers. It is also providing an online service and a drive-in service.

A lot of things inform these responses to the coronavirus outbreak: culture, histories of discrimination, and marginalization, as well as faith-based values. People experience events like COVID-19 not only as individuals but also in communities and in the social locations we inhabit. As social scientists—Deidra as a black woman doing research on HPV and Elaine as a white woman who studies how religious organizations respond to science—we offer some observations based on our research for the past 10 years at the Religion and Public Life Program at Rice University. We have been gathering upwards of 150 religious and civic leaders regularly to talk about how we can use social science research on religion to build common ground for the common good.

Drop the white victimhood lady. There are black mega churches. And apparently blacks in Florida aren't holding services in churches. And its always funny when a republican like you suddenly gets so concerned about blacks only after somebody white gets arrested for something that you can't see blacks getting arrested for.

Nobody black will be calling COVID19 a racist disease. But that's how you racists see black people. Normal non racist whites would not make that kind of comment.

Black churches need to close just like everybody else. But what you really need to do Sue is work on ending the racism in the white community that has you posting this instead of whining "what about black pastors, why don't they get arrested."
Why must there still be ‘black’ churches and why does everyone have to accept that without question?

Why are there black churches? Could it be because black folks couldn't attend the white ones. Duh.

Don't hurt em with documented history like that Superbad. They want to live with amnesia in peace.
And who is stopping them now? No one. Just because blacks refuse to integrate doesn’t mean non-blacks are segregationist. You have it completely on the wrong foot.
What's stopping whites from attending black churches? Answer that one.
The same thing that stops any assimilated American regardless of skin color.

Wrong. You want to make it like blacks are the racists when everything about the black relationship with whites is due to our response to white racism. That's why black churches exist, it is why black organizations exist, etc. We did not create the exclusion, whites did. There is no assimilation into white culture, there is a creation of a multi cultural nation that is inclusive.
If it was still 1965 you’d have a point.
But just as with so many other issues, the messenger becomes bigger than the message and must perpetuate and amplify a mostly non-existent problem in order to justify their existence.

Ok let's start from scratch here. Black folks were NOT ALLOWED to attend White churches up until the late 60s, so black folks had to create their OWN places of worship. After integration are you saying that we were suppose to just shut down ALL the black churches and go worship at white churches.
55 years is a long time. And you don’t have to shut black churches. Just encourage assimilation. But that would undermine the existence of the NAACP’s of the world.

So why don't whites assimilate to Black Churches if it's that easy.
You mean why don’t assimilated people become black? Black culture segregates itself in the name of perceived blackness and transcends geography. It’s rooted in skin color. Assimilated people reflect the culture of their region. Most are white but the skin color isn’t the predicate.
You have the shoe on the wrong foot.

Didn't answer the question, why haven't white folks started attending black churches. There is no ban of white folks in black churches so your analogy makes no sense.
Because they don’t identify with a self-segregating culture that defines itself by a different and specific skin color. It’s a foreign country. Africa America.

I guess that explains Irish-Americans, Italian-Americans, German-Americans, Polish-Americans, etc.
And they’ve all assimilated and speak the dialect of the region. Segregationist blacks speak the same dialect regardless of region. That puts it in perspective.

You are avoiding the question. Why haven't whites assimilated to black churches?
The last thing you want is for whites to be like blacks. Do you really want white mobs beating down black people?

Because that's how you think of blacks, as people who form mobs and beat people?
It happens all the time.
All the time? Yeah, not an accurate description, I don't think.
Here is a mob beating from today. Like i said, its very common.


Who are they following?

 
And yet, AMAZINGLY, White Leftist Shamers on USMB are silent about it and we don't see any Black Pastors being arrested on television. We have fat crocodile tears about the "mega churches". (Black churches are never "mega churches" for some reason.)

I wonder why that is, any ideas?

When deciding to close the doors of black churches, congregational leaders across the US wrestle with unique considerations. Paul J. James, pastor of CareView Community Church in Lansdowne, Pennsylvania, noted in an interview with The Undefeated how closing is “counterintuitive to most churches, especially the black church… where we’re just glad to get together because of how hard life has been historically for us here in America. Church has been a safe place for us. It’s been a safe harbor. Now here we are faced with the inability to come together.”

Last week, the federal government strongly urged Americans not to gather in groups of more than 10, and restrictions keep coming. We suspect that many churches will close in the near future, but the decision will not been easy.

In St. Louis, the mayor hosted a teleconference with 300 clergy, including many of black churches, to urge them not to hold services. While some chose to stop meetings and modify their ministries, others struggled to make the change.

In Michigan, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer banned gatherings of more than 50 but then exempted churches from penalties. This will give some churches more options, though many are choosing to modify in some way. Triumph Church, which has seven locations in the Detroit area, will continue to gather in person, for now, though it expanded the number of services to reduce congregation size and is asking members to register ahead of time so it can maintain at least six feet between worshippers. It is also providing an online service and a drive-in service.

A lot of things inform these responses to the coronavirus outbreak: culture, histories of discrimination, and marginalization, as well as faith-based values. People experience events like COVID-19 not only as individuals but also in communities and in the social locations we inhabit. As social scientists—Deidra as a black woman doing research on HPV and Elaine as a white woman who studies how religious organizations respond to science—we offer some observations based on our research for the past 10 years at the Religion and Public Life Program at Rice University. We have been gathering upwards of 150 religious and civic leaders regularly to talk about how we can use social science research on religion to build common ground for the common good.

Drop the white victimhood lady. There are black mega churches. And apparently blacks in Florida aren't holding services in churches. And its always funny when a republican like you suddenly gets so concerned about blacks only after somebody white gets arrested for something that you can't see blacks getting arrested for.

Nobody black will be calling COVID19 a racist disease. But that's how you racists see black people. Normal non racist whites would not make that kind of comment.

Black churches need to close just like everybody else. But what you really need to do Sue is work on ending the racism in the white community that has you posting this instead of whining "what about black pastors, why don't they get arrested."
Why must there still be ‘black’ churches and why does everyone have to accept that without question?

Why are there black churches? Could it be because black folks couldn't attend the white ones. Duh.

Don't hurt em with documented history like that Superbad. They want to live with amnesia in peace.
And who is stopping them now? No one. Just because blacks refuse to integrate doesn’t mean non-blacks are segregationist. You have it completely on the wrong foot.
What's stopping whites from attending black churches? Answer that one.
The same thing that stops any assimilated American regardless of skin color.

Wrong. You want to make it like blacks are the racists when everything about the black relationship with whites is due to our response to white racism. That's why black churches exist, it is why black organizations exist, etc. We did not create the exclusion, whites did. There is no assimilation into white culture, there is a creation of a multi cultural nation that is inclusive.
If it was still 1965 you’d have a point.
But just as with so many other issues, the messenger becomes bigger than the message and must perpetuate and amplify a mostly non-existent problem in order to justify their existence.

Ok let's start from scratch here. Black folks were NOT ALLOWED to attend White churches up until the late 60s, so black folks had to create their OWN places of worship. After integration are you saying that we were suppose to just shut down ALL the black churches and go worship at white churches.
55 years is a long time. And you don’t have to shut black churches. Just encourage assimilation. But that would undermine the existence of the NAACP’s of the world.

So why don't whites assimilate to Black Churches if it's that easy.
You mean why don’t assimilated people become black? Black culture segregates itself in the name of perceived blackness and transcends geography. It’s rooted in skin color. Assimilated people reflect the culture of their region. Most are white but the skin color isn’t the predicate.
You have the shoe on the wrong foot.

Didn't answer the question, why haven't white folks started attending black churches. There is no ban of white folks in black churches so your analogy makes no sense.
Because they don’t identify with a self-segregating culture that defines itself by a different and specific skin color. It’s a foreign country. Africa America.

I guess that explains Irish-Americans, Italian-Americans, German-Americans, Polish-Americans, etc.
And they’ve all assimilated and speak the dialect of the region. Segregationist blacks speak the same dialect regardless of region. That puts it in perspective.

You are avoiding the question. Why haven't whites assimilated to black churches?
The last thing you want is for whites to be like blacks. Do you really want white mobs beating down black people?

Because that's how you think of blacks, as people who form mobs and beat people?
It happens all the time.
All the time? Yeah, not an accurate description, I don't think.
Here is a mob beating from today. Like i said, its very common.


I wouldn't call 3 15-year-old girls a mob. :dunno:

Also, while the girl in the picture appears to be black, there's no indication of the other 2 involved in the assault.

Mob attacks happen, sure. I still question your use of the phrase "all the time," though.
 
And yet, AMAZINGLY, White Leftist Shamers on USMB are silent about it and we don't see any Black Pastors being arrested on television. We have fat crocodile tears about the "mega churches". (Black churches are never "mega churches" for some reason.)

I wonder why that is, any ideas?

When deciding to close the doors of black churches, congregational leaders across the US wrestle with unique considerations. Paul J. James, pastor of CareView Community Church in Lansdowne, Pennsylvania, noted in an interview with The Undefeated how closing is “counterintuitive to most churches, especially the black church… where we’re just glad to get together because of how hard life has been historically for us here in America. Church has been a safe place for us. It’s been a safe harbor. Now here we are faced with the inability to come together.”

Last week, the federal government strongly urged Americans not to gather in groups of more than 10, and restrictions keep coming. We suspect that many churches will close in the near future, but the decision will not been easy.

In St. Louis, the mayor hosted a teleconference with 300 clergy, including many of black churches, to urge them not to hold services. While some chose to stop meetings and modify their ministries, others struggled to make the change.

In Michigan, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer banned gatherings of more than 50 but then exempted churches from penalties. This will give some churches more options, though many are choosing to modify in some way. Triumph Church, which has seven locations in the Detroit area, will continue to gather in person, for now, though it expanded the number of services to reduce congregation size and is asking members to register ahead of time so it can maintain at least six feet between worshippers. It is also providing an online service and a drive-in service.

A lot of things inform these responses to the coronavirus outbreak: culture, histories of discrimination, and marginalization, as well as faith-based values. People experience events like COVID-19 not only as individuals but also in communities and in the social locations we inhabit. As social scientists—Deidra as a black woman doing research on HPV and Elaine as a white woman who studies how religious organizations respond to science—we offer some observations based on our research for the past 10 years at the Religion and Public Life Program at Rice University. We have been gathering upwards of 150 religious and civic leaders regularly to talk about how we can use social science research on religion to build common ground for the common good.

Drop the white victimhood lady. There are black mega churches. And apparently blacks in Florida aren't holding services in churches. And its always funny when a republican like you suddenly gets so concerned about blacks only after somebody white gets arrested for something that you can't see blacks getting arrested for.

Nobody black will be calling COVID19 a racist disease. But that's how you racists see black people. Normal non racist whites would not make that kind of comment.

Black churches need to close just like everybody else. But what you really need to do Sue is work on ending the racism in the white community that has you posting this instead of whining "what about black pastors, why don't they get arrested."
Why must there still be ‘black’ churches and why does everyone have to accept that without question?

Why are there black churches? Could it be because black folks couldn't attend the white ones. Duh.

Don't hurt em with documented history like that Superbad. They want to live with amnesia in peace.
And who is stopping them now? No one. Just because blacks refuse to integrate doesn’t mean non-blacks are segregationist. You have it completely on the wrong foot.
What's stopping whites from attending black churches? Answer that one.
The same thing that stops any assimilated American regardless of skin color.

Wrong. You want to make it like blacks are the racists when everything about the black relationship with whites is due to our response to white racism. That's why black churches exist, it is why black organizations exist, etc. We did not create the exclusion, whites did. There is no assimilation into white culture, there is a creation of a multi cultural nation that is inclusive.
If it was still 1965 you’d have a point.
But just as with so many other issues, the messenger becomes bigger than the message and must perpetuate and amplify a mostly non-existent problem in order to justify their existence.

Ok let's start from scratch here. Black folks were NOT ALLOWED to attend White churches up until the late 60s, so black folks had to create their OWN places of worship. After integration are you saying that we were suppose to just shut down ALL the black churches and go worship at white churches.
55 years is a long time. And you don’t have to shut black churches. Just encourage assimilation. But that would undermine the existence of the NAACP’s of the world.

So why don't whites assimilate to Black Churches if it's that easy.
You mean why don’t assimilated people become black? Black culture segregates itself in the name of perceived blackness and transcends geography. It’s rooted in skin color. Assimilated people reflect the culture of their region. Most are white but the skin color isn’t the predicate.
You have the shoe on the wrong foot.

Didn't answer the question, why haven't white folks started attending black churches. There is no ban of white folks in black churches so your analogy makes no sense.
Because they don’t identify with a self-segregating culture that defines itself by a different and specific skin color. It’s a foreign country. Africa America.

I guess that explains Irish-Americans, Italian-Americans, German-Americans, Polish-Americans, etc.
And they’ve all assimilated and speak the dialect of the region. Segregationist blacks speak the same dialect regardless of region. That puts it in perspective.

You are avoiding the question. Why haven't whites assimilated to black churches?
The last thing you want is for whites to be like blacks. Do you really want white mobs beating down black people?

Because that's how you think of blacks, as people who form mobs and beat people?
It happens all the time.
All the time? Yeah, not an accurate description, I don't think.
Here is a mob beating from today. Like i said, its very common.


I wouldn't call 3 15-year-old girls a mob. :dunno:

Also, while the girl in the picture appears to be black, there's no indication of the other 2 involved in the assault.

Mob attacks happen, sure. I still question your use of the phrase "all the time," though.
Would you feel better if i said it is VERY common?
 
Why are there still white churches and why does everyone have to accept that without question?


Are you serious or is this a joke?

See American history 101 for your answer sir.

#LOLGOP #TooFunny #CLASSIC
 
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