Birthright Citizenship? Yes/No

[BlindBoo]

It means American citizens
Illegal aliens are not American citizens

They wouldn't have started the amendment with "All Persons born..." but would have started with Only persons born of Citizens...." if that is what they meant for posterity.

 

[my2¢]

Birthright citizenship should be left alone. If they want to amend the Constitution, just try. I doubt they'll get the required number of states to go along.

 

[OKTexas]

Your post is incorrect. The phrase "under the jurisdiction of" is well defined. There can be no "reinterpretation" of a well-known legal term. The SCOTUS will simply not rule the way you are fantasizing it will.

If what you claim is true, why haven't lower courts previously overturned that interpretation? Because they cannot!

You're right, lower courts are bound by precedent, SCOTUS isn't.

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[Stryder50]

You're right, lower courts are bound by precedent, SCOTUS isn't.

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And SCOTUS could change/revise that ruling/interpretation.
No other nation I know of has such a confusing and convoluted method for non-citizens to birth citizens.

 

[OKTexas]

And SCOTUS could change/revise that ruling/interpretation.
No other nation I know of has such a confusing and convoluted method for non-citizens to birth citizens.

Canada has birthright citizenship.

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[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Birthright citizenship

No, it doesn't, thank you for that incorrect information.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Canada has birthright citizenship.

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Ted Cruz has birthright citizenship in Canada and the US because he was born to an American mother while working in Canada. He has never claimed Candian citizenship, though he could.

 

[Failzero]

End it pronto

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

NO.... And most nations with birthright citizenship do not automatically grant your parents the right to remain here with you... so its meaningless... Only the USA says sure and your entire family can stay too...

That is a bald-faced lie and you have been schooled on that topic many times. Stop being an ass!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The text isn't as plain as you interpret.
Written and ratified @ 157 years ago, word usage and intended context then was a bit different than now.
This is why the more correct interpretation does not validate the concept of "anchor baby" or birth right to citizenship of those born to foreign nationals not already citizens here.
The Amendment was meant to thwart the dis-enfranchising of former slaves from the former Confederacy states.

The term "under the jurisdiction of" has a definite meaning that is NOT your current interpretation. If you explore the concept of diplomatic immunity, you will understand it better.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

End it pronto

Go right ahead with your proposed amendment. Why don't you? Think it will not pass? If it is as cut and dried as you make it out to be, what is the problem?

 

[Failzero]

Go right ahead with your proposed amendment. Why don't you? Think it will not pass? If it is as cut and dried as you make it out to be, what is the problem?

Open border Democommies

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You're right, lower courts are bound by precedent, SCOTUS isn't.

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SCOTUS is bound by the text of the Constitution, which most conservatives support. What is your reasoning for a liberal interpretation?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Open border Democommies

Exactly, which is why you will not likely succeed. But there are an awful lot of conservatives that prefer a literal interpretation of the 14th Amendment like in the past and would support a change. Isn't democracy wonderful?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

And SCOTUS could change/revise that ruling/interpretation.
No other nation I know of has such a confusing and convoluted method for non-citizens to birth citizens.

There has been no ruling! Where do you think they have addressed this at SCOTUS level? Do you have a link to the case they would be overturning?

 

[Rambunctious]

That is a bald-faced lie and you have been schooled on that topic many times. Stop being an ass!

Calm down old man... nations with birthright citizenship do not let the parents stay no matter what... if they have felonies on their record they don't get to stay just because they gave birth in the nation...
Man you are an angry cuss....

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Calm down old man... nations with birthright citizenship do not let the parents stay no matter what... if they have felonies on their record they don't get to stay just because they gave birth in the nation...
Man you are an angry cuss....

This is your lie:
"Only the USA says sure and your entire family can stay too..."

You posted that, didn't you? Well, you are wrong. You have been educated on this topic numerous times.

I am angry yes, because I don't like stupidity and you are giving out a truckload!

 

[Rambunctious]

This is your lie:
"Only the USA says sure and your entire family can stay too..."

You posted that, didn't you? Well, you are wrong. You have been educated on this topic numerous times.

I am angry yes, because I don't like stupidity and you are giving out a truckload!

What you are is an idiot... you have no reason to get this mad... maybe you should take a break from USMB... if you can't correct someone without cursing them out you have a severe emotional problem...

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

What you are is an idiot... you have no reason to get this mad... maybe you should take a break from USMB... if you can't correct someone without cursing them out you have a severe emotional problem...

Mind your own f-ing business!

 

[Rawley]

You cannot reverse the plain text of the 14th Amendment.

Still sticking with that nonsense huh?