"Baby It's Cold Outside"... A charming tune about chivalry and male/female dynamics, and how feminism hates it

[Mr. Friscus]

I had a discussion at work today, and it simply baffles me to hear people misinterpret this song as they do.

Two things seem to bother overly-sensitive woke feminists about this song
1. A man is trying to pursue a woman
2. She says "what's in this drink"

I'll address them:

1. Men should desire women, try to whoo them, and find delight in doing so. It's a cross-cultural and historic staple of human civilization and behavioral psychology. Men chasing women is a good thing... only feminism has tried to shut it down, demonize it, and fight to try to end it.. making women generally increasingly more single, more unhappy, and buying more cats.

2. Fear-mongering, "rape culture" feminists squawk that the question "What's in this drink" means if she's asking if she's being roofied or something. It's hyperbolic nonsense. The question is asking if it's alcoholic or not.. but this does bring up a further feminist anti-male-seeking-female stance that if a man tries to give women drinks they are manipulating and some sort of predator. In fact, women are grown adults who can handle themselves, they aren't children. If they are comfortable with a charming man, they'll have drinks with him.

 

[OKTexas]

I had a discussion at work today, and it simply baffles me to hear people misinterpret this song as they do.

Two things seem to bother overly-sensitive woke feminists about this song
1. A man is trying to pursue a woman
2. She says "what's in this drink"

I'll address them:

1. Men should desire women, try to whoo them, and find delight in doing so. It's a cross-cultural and historic staple of human civilization and behavioral psychology. Men chasing women is a good thing... only feminism has tried to shut it down, demonize it, and fight to try to end it.. making women generally increasingly more single, more unhappy, and buying more cats.

2. Fear-mongering, "rape culture" feminists squawk that the question "What's in this drink" means if she's asking if she's being roofied or something. It's hyperbolic nonsense. The question is asking if it's alcoholic or not.. but this does bring up a further feminist anti-male-seeking-female stance that if a man tries to give women drinks they are manipulating and some sort of predator. In fact, women are grown adults who can handle themselves, they aren't children. If they are comfortable with a charming man, they'll have drinks with him.

Wrong forum.

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[Mr. Friscus]

Wrong forum.

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It's a political topic

 

[IDIOCRACY]

I had a discussion at work today, and it simply baffles me to hear people misinterpret this song as they do.

Two things seem to bother overly-sensitive woke feminists about this song
1. A man is trying to pursue a woman
2. She says "what's in this drink"

I'll address them:

1. Men should desire women, try to whoo them, and find delight in doing so. It's a cross-cultural and historic staple of human civilization and behavioral psychology. Men chasing women is a good thing... only feminism has tried to shut it down, demonize it, and fight to try to end it.. making women generally increasingly more single, more unhappy, and buying more cats.

2. Fear-mongering, "rape culture" feminists squawk that the question "What's in this drink" means if she's asking if she's being roofied or something. It's hyperbolic nonsense. The question is asking if it's alcoholic or not.. but this does bring up a further feminist anti-male-seeking-female stance that if a man tries to give women drinks they are manipulating and some sort of predator. In fact, women are grown adults who can handle themselves, they aren't children. If they are comfortable with a charming man, they'll have drinks with him.

Woke destroys everything it comes in contact with. Those who spread it have sick minds.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Woke destroys everything it comes in contact with. Those who spread it have sick minds.

Feminism generally guides women to unhappiness... dangling the carrot of elite male success without revealing that most men don't enjoy that success.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Feminist are destroying western civilization

 

[BS Filter]

Activist feminists are man haters. Don't waste your time.

 

[OKTexas]

It's a political topic

Actually it's not, it's about a song and a few freaks opinion of it, none of which you've proven to be politicians.

Politics​

Political Forum - Discuss politics, government policies and candidates.

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[pknopp]

If you listen to the song she wants to stay. She is just concerned over those who would be judgmental over her doing so.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Actually it's not, it's about a song and a few freaks opinion of it, none of which you've proven to be politicians.

Politics​

Political Forum - Discuss politics, government policies and candidates.

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There is politics in the issue. The cancel culture of Feminism and the attack on men by modernists. Those were issues in this election clearly, and I outlined how those are present in the demonization of the song

 

[Mr. Friscus]

If you listen to the song she wants to stay. She is just concerned over those who would be judgmental over her doing so.

IMO she’s either…

1. Flirty and playing hard to get
2. Truly being pulled in 2 directions, deciding between doing perhaps the “smart thing” and getting home for a normal night or following her desire.

Either way, it’s a charming song that promotes the chase by men, chivalry, women being desired, and the companionship and relationship between men and women.. all good things (unless you’re a 3rd wave feminist, then you’d oppose or demonize all of that)

 

[OKTexas]

There is politics in the issue. The cancel culture of Feminism and the attack on men by modernists. Those were issues in this election clearly, and I outlined how those are present in the demonization of the song

And exactly where would I go to vote on this issue? If I could, it would be political, otherwise it would be a general discussions topic.

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[marvin martian]

I had a discussion at work today, and it simply baffles me to hear people misinterpret this song as they do.

Two things seem to bother overly-sensitive woke feminists about this song
1. A man is trying to pursue a woman
2. She says "what's in this drink"

I'll address them:

1. Men should desire women, try to whoo them, and find delight in doing so. It's a cross-cultural and historic staple of human civilization and behavioral psychology. Men chasing women is a good thing... only feminism has tried to shut it down, demonize it, and fight to try to end it.. making women generally increasingly more single, more unhappy, and buying more cats.

2. Fear-mongering, "rape culture" feminists squawk that the question "What's in this drink" means if she's asking if she's being roofied or something. It's hyperbolic nonsense. The question is asking if it's alcoholic or not.. but this does bring up a further feminist anti-male-seeking-female stance that if a man tries to give women drinks they are manipulating and some sort of predator. In fact, women are grown adults who can handle themselves, they aren't children. If they are comfortable with a charming man, they'll have drinks with him.

Leftist white women are the absolute worst human beings on the planet.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

And exactly where would I go to vote on this issue? If I could, it would be political, otherwise it would be a general discussions topic.

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If the standard for this section of USMB is that is must be on a ballot, you’d better get busy moving 99% of the threads out. Go.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Leftist white women are the absolute worst human beings on the planet.

They like to swoop in and commit “virtue masterbation” to help all of the poor people who are too stupid and lazy to help themselves.

 

[marvin martian]

They like to swoop in and commit “virtue masterbation” to help all of the poor people who are too stupid and lazy to help themselves.

 

[OKTexas]

If the standard for this section of USMB is that is must be on a ballot, you’d better get busy moving 99% of the threads out. Go.

That or it's an issue being pushed as official policy, simple cultural issues, not so much.

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[braalian]

It’s not date rape-y, but calling the man in the song “chivalrous” is pretty ridiculous as well.

Let’s not sugarcoat it. He’s trying to fuck her. Call it “wooing if you want. She’s hesitant because she’s worried that her family will be suspicious. (“My brother will be waiting at the door”, “My spinster aunt’s mind is vicious”)

No, the “say, what’s in this drink” line doesn’t mean he roofied her, but he’s clearly trying to get her tipsy.

He’s trying to get her to stay so he can bed her, not because “it’s cold outside”. That’s what the song is about, a man trying to get in a woman’s pants. The song is coy about it, but he’s obviously not wanting her to stay just so they can snuggle by the fire drinking hot totties.

He’s just doing what almost every guy In history has done in one form or another. Not rape-y, but certainly not chivalrous.

 

[braalian]

And, in any event, if the feminists are campaigning to get this song canceled they’re doing a spectacularly bad job at it.

I hear it on the radio constantly, as well as overhead at the supermarket. Its as ubiquitous as Rudolph the Rednose Reindeer.

If anyone’s overreacting, it’s you.

 

[lafayette]

It's a political topic

Wrong forum.