Zone1 We Know Men’s duties and obligations to women, but what are women’s duties and obligations to men?

The evidence shows the first Christians did worship Jesus as God.

The evidence of the 24,000 written manuscripts explain why the first Christians worshipped Jesus as God.

The evidence of the Babylonian Talmud confirmed Jesus performed miracles and and made blasphemous claims so he was put to death for sorcery and inciting apostasy.
The evidence shows people in North Korea worship Kim Jung Un as god. The evidence shows that people worship Allah as god, the evidence shows that people worshipped Thor and Mithras as god.
 
The evidence shows people in North Korea worship Kim Jung Un as god. The evidence shows that people worship Allah as god, the evidence shows that people worshipped Thor and Mithras as god.
The evidence shows the first Christians did worship Jesus as God.

The evidence of the 24,000 written manuscripts explain why the first Christians worshipped Jesus as God.

The evidence of the Babylonian Talmud confirmed Jesus performed miracles and and made blasphemous claims so he was put to death for sorcery and inciting apostasy.
 
The evidence shows people in North Korea worship Kim Jung Un as god. The evidence shows that people worship Allah as god, the evidence shows that people worshipped Thor and Mithras as god.
Atheists worship science as god when 50% of all research is invalid
 
The evidence shows the first Christians did worship Jesus as God.

The evidence of the 24,000 written manuscripts explain why the first Christians worshipped Jesus as God.

The evidence of the Babylonian Talmud confirmed Jesus performed miracles and and made blasphemous claims so he was put to death for sorcery and inciting apostasy.
Fiction isnt evidence
 
…. Um, okay?

Can I ask why you’re on a debate forum and replying to claims with… mere relativism?

Nobody can say anything because it’s all just subjective? Do I have that correct?

Because the OP is based on false pretenses and notions about the relationship between men and women that has no basis in reality.

Marriage is a legal contract which spells out the obligations of both sexes. A man is required to protect his family, provide for his family, and procreate. That's it. All of that other garbage you tried to pile on is just right wing BS.

Women have an obligation to support their spouse, both economically and emotionally. Both have an obligation to their community and their families to help create a safe and secure community.

Both are required to obey the laws, and support their communities to the best of their ability.
 
Atheists worship science as god when 50% of all research is invalid
Ummmm, sorry. But your attempts to define me to disparage me and demonize me fails. I don't worship science or idolize it. Matter of fact, I think the notion that Global warming is due primarily to humans is as crazy as the notion that God sent himself down to sacrifice to himself to save humans from themselves so that they could die and worship him eternally, are both idiotic.
 
The evidence shows the first Christians did worship Jesus as God.

The evidence of the 24,000 written manuscripts explain why the first Christians worshipped Jesus as God.

The evidence of the Babylonian Talmud confirmed Jesus performed miracles and and made blasphemous claims so he was put to death for sorcery and inciting apostasy.
The evidence shows people in North Korea worship Kim Jung Un as god. The evidence shows that people worship Allah as god, the evidence shows that people worshipped Thor and Mithras as god.
 
The evidence shows people in North Korea worship Kim Jung Un as god. The evidence shows that people worship Allah as god, the evidence shows that people worshipped Thor and Mithras as god.
And has absolutely no bearing that the first Christians worshipped Jesus as God and that 24,000 written manuscripts explain why they did.
 
And has absolutely no bearing that the first Christians worshipped Jesus as God and that 24,000 written manuscripts explain why they did.
And because "The first Christians worshiped Jesus as God and that 24,000 written manuscripts explain why they did." has no bearing on whether or not he sacrificed, was a son of god, was god himself, that he died for our sins, that we are all guilty of original sin, that it's OK to own and beat slaves, that a god desires worship, that believers go to heaven.
 
And because "The first Christians worshiped Jesus as God and that 24,000 written manuscripts explain why they did." has no bearing on whether or not he sacrificed, was a son of god, was god himself, that he died for our sins, that we are all guilty of original sin, that it's OK to own and beat slaves, that a god desires worship, that believers go to heaven.
It has to do with being God Incarnate.
 
The italicized is from Grok:

In North Korea, the regime promotes a cult of personality around Kim Jong Un and his predecessors. The Kim family is portrayed as infallible, almost divine figures through state propaganda, with titles like "Great Leader" or "Dear Leader." This reverence is rooted in Juche ideology, which emphasizes national self-reliance and elevates the Kims as the embodiment of the state’s will. Portraits of Kim Il-sung and Kim Jong-il are mandatory in homes and public spaces, and citizens are expected to show ritualistic respect, like bowing or clapping at statues.

This is identical to modern day worship of Jesus and the pope being claimed to be infallible, as well as statues filling the churches and homes with humans bowing and saying the sign of the cross before those statues, as well as manger scenes and Jesus and Mary statuary in homes.

There are parallels between North Korea’s cult of personality around the Kim family and the Catholic Church’s influence in medieval Europe. Both systems used centralized authority, ritualistic devotion, and fear to maintain control. In medieval Catholicism, the Pope was seen as God’s infallible representative, with divine authority over spiritual and often temporal matters. People were expected to show reverence through rituals, icons, and obedience, with dissent (heresy) punished harshly—think Inquisition. Similarly, North Korea mandates displays of loyalty to the Kims, with propaganda and punishment (labor camps) for non-compliance.

Both leveraged ideology and fear to shape behavior, but North Korea’s system is more totalizing due to modern surveillance and propaganda tools. No direct data equates the two, but defectors’ accounts and medieval records (church decrees) highlight these dynamics.
 
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