Are homosexual natures created by nurture, nature, or God?

[Blues Man]

You do know that's your opinion right?

It happens to be a fact that 2 people could not have populated the entire planet

 

[DukeU]

It happens to be a fact that 2 people could not have populated the entire planet

In your opinion.

 

[Blues Man]

In your opinion.

no that's a scientific fact.

2 humans do not have the genetic variability to populate an entire planet.

Could Two People Repopulate Earth? Science Weighs in

Adam and Eve might have managed it in the Bible, but scientifically speaking, would two people be enough to repopulate our world from scratch, despite the inevitable health issues associated with inbreeding and a limited gene pool? First of all,

www.sciencealert.com

 

[DukeU]

no that's a scientific fact.

2 humans do not have the genetic variability to populate an entire planet

LOL.......................Science!!!!!


You do realize the Earth and mankind was different then?......I guess not.

90% of all living things God created no longer exist, so there are many things that changed since sin entered the earth.

But, you stick to "science", it suits you well.

 

[Blues Man]

LOL.......................Science!!!!!


You do realize the Earth and mankind was different then?......I guess not.

90% of all living things God created no longer exist, so there are many things that changed since sin entered the earth.

But, you stick to "science", it suits you well.

Oh OK people were different so sons could fuck their mother and everyone else could fuck their first cousins and there would be no ill effects of inbreeding at all

That you believe this would be funny if it wasn;t so sad.

 

[DukeU]

Oh OK people were different so sons could fuck their mother and everyone else could fuck their first cousins and there would be no ill effects of inbreeding at all

Everything was different, it was perfectly created by God.

Do you not know that 90% of livings things have disappeared from the Earth since they were created?

Why do you suppose that is?

 

[Blues Man]

Everything was different, it was perfectly created by God.

Do you not know that 90% of livings things have disappeared from the Earth since they were created?

Why do you suppose that is?

Yeah OK

So it was Ok for a mother to have kids with her sons?

So tell me did you have sex with your mother?

 

[DukeU]

Yeah OK

So it was Ok for a mother to have kids with her sons?

So tell me did you have sex with your mother?

Do you know of a mother who did?

 

[Mashmont]

Are homosexual natures created by nurture, nature, or God?

I think the answer is is quite important as it would show us the cause/source of homosexuality.

If God, as believers think, then why is God creating gays?

Regards
DL

My question is why do atheists/leftwingers believe life should be without challenges? Why do they think bad actions should go without consequences? I've never understood this.
The fact is, we all have crosses to bear. Some have a predisposition to alcohol; some to gambling; some to excessive sex. Some have physical infirmities. We are called to work on these things and to keep from violating the laws of God. When we do so, we will be stronger and better.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Yeah.....you debunked the hell out of that CDC study concerning STDS.....etc. LMAO Again.....is there one liberal that has the mental capacity to defend their position void of acting like a 7th grade teenager? "I know you are..........but what am I....."? Really? I stand corrected.

Your argument is specious, there is nothing to debunk Homosexuals tend to use condoms less because they can't get each other pregnant. It's not because they are homosexual that they get more STDs. And you are an idiot and a liar to make that specious argument.

You can stop your little dog and pony show. You have no concern over any of that. You are just a manbaby steeped in iron age mythology, trying to prop up your own fetishes and bigotry with these red herrings, because you know your true reasons are a chdish embarrassment.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

LOL.......................Science!!!!!

And there you have it.

Science can't be trusted...but the gut feelings and aggressively ignorant religious nuttery are infallible.

Morons.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Yeah........outdated. LMAO Its growing worse with more blind acceptance of this perverted

Oooo! Can't comprehend English? The 2014 study from the CDC stated that the problem was growing within the homosexual community. As if a few years automatically is a reduction in the stats. Yes there is very much doubt in your false premise that Heterosexual rates of STD are close to the Homosexual spread when the entire demography stats are calculated.

As Mark Twain stated, Figures do not lie but LIARS SURE DO FIGURE. For example, you can't compare the use of condoms between the 2 groups and state they are the same. Why would a straight couple committed to a monogamous relationship even think of using Condoms, unless it is for birth control........which is not even considered in a homosexual relationship?

There is a 2021 study that confirms the reason why there is a vast difference between the 2 groups. Homosexuals are at least 4 times more enticed to stray from a monogamous relationship than a married heterosexual couple and why use a condom......no fear of reproduction? When you engage in sex outside a monogamous relationship you are engaging in sex with every one this other partner has ever slept with. The only safe sex is monogamous sex.

Heterosexual and Homosexual Marriages – Are Straight and Gay Marriages Identical?

Kerby Anderson examines both kinds of marriages, exploring evidence the relationships are intrinsically very different and unequal.

probe.org

With the number of homosexuals even considering a monogamous relationship far below those committed to a heterosexual relationship. Homosexual marriages that last at least 10 years in a monogamous fashion stand at 16% of that demography with Heterosexual couples stats standing between 70-80%.

Before you attempt to kill the messenger instead of attempting to refute the evidence presented because this article is presented by an Evangelical group.......note the documented reference list. Much of this information comes from government vetted sources, even the dept. of Labor is referenced....etc. Simply because the Liberal narrative has changed does not indicate that truth ev. er changes, regardless of the dates. Truth never evolves........opinions vary, and societies can evolve but Facts never evolve or they were never facts.

Seriously?? This is nothing but shameless, hateful propaganda.

Lets look at some of your sources:

The Department of Labor.....Link does not work
The US Cences link goes to a locksmith cite as does a number of other links
National Center for Health and Statistics.. No Link in one case, in another it does not work
Some studies referenced are from the 70s and 80s
Many references are from the Family Research Council and the Heritage Foundation -Two highly biased and bigoted organizations
James Dobson. Another known bigot
Another reference is a "Biblical View of Marriage"
And as far as the CDC goes, they may have said that "things are getting worse" in 2008 but that does not mean that they are getting worse now

I will stop there but you get the idea.. worthless horseshit . I could wast my time finding legitimate studies to counter every one of the claims made but I am no going to do that

Rather, I am going to hold your feet to the fire until you address the questions that I posed a few posts back which I will post again here
Since you are so concerned about the problems-STDs , promiscuity, relationship stability etc. - I want to know what you would propose in terms of public policy.

Do you want to just point your finger at the filthy, dysfunctional perverts or would you want to change things for the better? I suspect that you will not consider the legal and societal issues that have marginalized discriminated against gays contributing to the issues that have been raised. Rather, I anticipate you taking the position that these behaviors are intrinsic the gay culture and to the individuals. We shall see. Here is what I had asked again. Grow a spine and be honest

4. In any case, I have to ask...what is your solution? Do we condemn homosexuality, strip gays of their rights and drive it back underground and into the bath houses and darkened XXX porn theaters where the have anonymous sex ? What effect on the STD problem will that have.?

5. On the other hand, we can continue the trend towards legitimizing and validating gay relationships so that they can fully participate in society by the light of day fostering stable monogamous relationships which will tamp down the STD rates.

6. The fact is that no matter what is done, you are not going to stamp out homosexuality. The choice to either criminalize it and condemn it and drive it inro the shadows where physical disease and emotional distress will fester, OR accept the fact that gay people have become part of the fabric of society and that gay relationships have been for the most part normalized? And given the latter option, we can see that gay people are very much like, and behave very much like, everyone else. When accepted as human beings as -opposed to freaks who are defined only by how they have sex -we see that are very much part of their communities. They have families, homes and jobs. THINK ABOUT IT

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

And.......its been a sin against God for as long as it has existed. Your point? The control of lust is what separates man from animals. Man has the capacity to judge right from wrong, good from evil..........

Homosexuality is "animalistic" and is a mental condition based upon some psychological disconnect much like that which is demonstrated in all Psychopaths and Sociopaths, its simply a personality disorder.

All sex is based upon free will choices........if not you have just been raped. The "mind" controls all aspects of sex and choice. If you cannot control your lust and desires you are SICK.

Ignorance and bigotry is "animalistic" and is a mental condition based upon some psychological disconnect much like that which is demonstrated in all Psychopaths and Sociopaths, its simply a personality disorder.

 

[GreatestIam]

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If there is no homosexual gene, that just means there is no heterosexual gene.

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Thanks for this.

Regards
DL

 

[GreatestIam]

Again, it's a mental issue.

I agree.

Sexual issues and preferences begin in the mind.

The mind is subject to chemical reactions that are controlled by DNA.

Any of us could likely switch our sexual position if our chemistry and DNA make us do so.

Look at the fish species that only produce males now because of the chemistry we are feeding them.

What are we subjecting human DNA to?

When I want to change my wife's view, I get her chocolates.

Regards
DL

 

[GreatestIam]

So you would be against kids being emotionally harmed by being raised by homosexual parents?

I recall a stat that said that 40% of all girls in households were abused in one form or another.

You might want to stay away from the emotional harm issue.

All those who promote homophobic and misogynous religions should.

Regards
DL

 

[GreatestIam]

I can't decide whether you are brilliant beyond my comprehension or batshit crazy. I tend to think the later . A smart person would be reading the science instead of the bible . Hey, did you hear about that guy to shoved a woman in front of a subway train in New York? He said he was GOD.

I suppose that you could be both brilliant and crazy. They are the worst

I think we all have a little idiot savant in all of us.

Apotheosis changes one as well.

Regards
DL

 

[GreatestIam]

I can't decide whether you are brilliant beyond my comprehension

I strive for the first but am not beyond anyone's comprehension.

Most in the dark do not let the light penetrate their supernatural shield to reality.

Regards
DL

 

[GreatestIam]

My question is why do atheists/leftwingers believe life should be without challenges? Why do they think bad actions should go without consequences? I've never understood this.
The fact is, we all have crosses to bear. Some have a predisposition to alcohol; some to gambling; some to excessive sex. Some have physical infirmities. We are called to work on these things and to keep from violating the laws of God. When we do so, we will be stronger and better.

You do not understand it because it is not true.

Only the stupidest of any society would think like that.

Both wings have their loonies, but the left does not go to the Q type unless push comes to shove.

The laws of your genocidal, homophobic and misogynous God are Q garbage.

Remember that Christian right wingers have to hate their children if born gay or lowly females.

Atheist and left wingers get to love all their children.

Which group do you want to belong to?

Regards
DL

 

[GreatestIam]

Why do you suppose that is?

Lack of space and air.

We have enough to stop our own extinction.

We just collectively do not care enough to do so.

Regards
DL