Are blacks "political chumps" for supporting Democrats

Since it seems like some republicans and conservatives are seemingly such "fans" of Malcolm X (started a thread about him) and what he said, let's explore it further.



"What you and I need to do is learn to forget our differences. When we come together, we don't come together as Baptists or Methodists. You don't catch hell because you're a Baptist, and you don't catch hell because you're a Methodist. You don't catch hell because you're a Methodist or Baptist, you don't catch hell because you're a Democrat or a Republican, you don't catch hell because you're a Mason or an Elk, and you sure don't catch hell because you're an American; because if you were an American, you wouldn't catch hell. You catch hell because you're a black man. You catch hell, all of us catch hell, for the same reason. "

"Instead of airing our differences in public, we have to realize we're all the same family. And when you have a family squabble, you don't get out on the sidewalk. If you do, everybody calls you uncouth, unrefined, uncivilized, savage. An example:(Dem Blacks, de be on the democrat plantation boss!) If you don't make it at home, you settle it at home; you get in the closet, argue it out behind closed doors, and then when you come out on the street, you pose a common front, a united front. And this is what we need to do in the community, and in the city, and in the state. We need to stop airing our differences in front of the white man, put the white man out of our meetings, and then sit down and talk shop with each other. That's what we've got to do. "

"As long as the white man sent you to Korea, you bled. He sent you to Germany, you bled. He sent you to the South Pacific to fight the Japanese, you bled. You bleed for white people, but when it comes to seeing your own churches being bombed and little black girls murdered, you haven't got any blood. You bleed when the white man says bleed; you bite when the white man says bite; and you bark when the white man says bark. I hate to say this about us, but it's true. How are you going to be nonviolent in Mississippi, as violent as you were in Korea? How can you justify being nonviolent in Mississippi and Alabama, when your churches are being bombed, and your little girls are being murdered, and at the same time you are going to get violent with Hitler, and Tojo, and somebody else you don't even know? "

http://thespeechsite.com/en/famous/MalcolmX-2.shtml
 
What does that mean?

Nice try. You attempted to imply the OP used the "chump" term.
He pointed out that term came from a Malcolm X quote.
We are well aware how you libs operate. In "gotcha" mode.
Even if the gotcha is a bold faced lie.

The OP did state this: "That said, and somehow this wasn't in the "Malcolm X" movie, he believed that blacks who supported Democrats were "Political chumps" and I concur"

If someone said that "Joe Blow is an asshole" and you "concur" or agree that "Joe Blow" is an asshole, aren't you basically calling or agreeing that "Joe Bow" is an asshole? :)
It also states "Malcolm X believed this"...
Your point?
 
Nice try. You attempted to imply the OP used the "chump" term.
He pointed out that term came from a Malcolm X quote.
We are well aware how you libs operate. In "gotcha" mode.
Even if the gotcha is a bold faced lie.

The OP did state this: "That said, and somehow this wasn't in the "Malcolm X" movie, he believed that blacks who supported Democrats were "Political chumps" and I concur"

If someone said that "Joe Blow is an asshole" and you "concur" or agree that "Joe Blow" is an asshole, aren't you basically calling or agreeing that "Joe Bow" is an asshole? :)
It also states "Malcolm X believed this"...
Your point?

It also states that he CONCURS. :)
 
I'm not black or a Democrat.

I would think that blindly supporting anyone is the stuff that makes one a chump. From the outside looking in, it is doubtful that blacks would benefit much from not having affirmative action, from not having a % of contracts set aside for MOBs, or from rules requiring % of college students to be minorities in state universities.

Many Republicans, I know, have opposed these measures.

so what you are saying is not everyone is created equal

Not everyone is treated as equals.
 
Hey genius....That is in another thread.

You have another thread detailing how the GOP is alienating black people?

No there is another thread about Huckabee's stupid statement on birth control....Why don't you head over there and bore those people to death with your femininazi horseshit.

I'd rather stay here and annoy you.

So isn't it funny that here we are 14 months after Romney getting field dressed (due to the women's vote mainly) and the autopsy report by Princess Phillips or whatever her name is and you guys are still making dumbass statements about women's reproductive systems?

Gee, another week of you guys having to try to convince people you don't really hate women.
 

LOL , you didn't even bring a knife, you bought a spoon!

From your own link:

"Results suggest that black self-segregation plays a statistically significant, albeit minor role in explaining housing segregation."

Compare that to this and you will see how laughable your comparison and post is:
Racial segregation in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


:)
 
You have another thread detailing how the GOP is alienating black people?

No there is another thread about Huckabee's stupid statement on birth control....Why don't you head over there and bore those people to death with your femininazi horseshit.

I'd rather stay here and annoy you.

So isn't it funny that here we are 14 months after Romney getting field dressed (due to the women's vote mainly) and the autopsy report by Princess Phillips or whatever her name is and you guys are still making dumbass statements about women's reproductive systems?

Gee, another week of you guys having to try to convince people you don't really hate women.

well it was the black and Hispanic vote, but then again history is not your strong point
 
No there is another thread about Huckabee's stupid statement on birth control....Why don't you head over there and bore those people to death with your femininazi horseshit.

I'd rather stay here and annoy you.

So isn't it funny that here we are 14 months after Romney getting field dressed (due to the women's vote mainly) and the autopsy report by Princess Phillips or whatever her name is and you guys are still making dumbass statements about women's reproductive systems?

Gee, another week of you guys having to try to convince people you don't really hate women.

well it was the black and Hispanic vote, but then again history is not your strong point

Logic isn't yours.

Blacks and Hispanics helped but roughly 1/2 of the Blacks and Hispanics voting are female. Single women destroyed any hope of Romney ever being President. The fact that he wants to control their bodies and remove their reproductive rights was central to that. It turns out that apparently libidos make you vote for Democrats.
 
On average blacks are less educated than Asians and whites...so they play right into the hands of democraps promising them free shit and that the GOP is out to get them.

So, which Blacks are you targeting with your inane post?

Obviously, you are influenced by the RW propaganda machine that focused on the highly publicized news release where one black child told her white interviewer that she expected "free stuff."That one incident took off like a virus and has infected every weak-minded white person who saw or heard the secondhand news!
Could you link that? I'd love to see it!

I could but I'm not into spreading viruses... go infect yourself!
 
Personally, I do not believe that black support Democrats in the numbers purported. I remain unshakable in my conviction that whatever the true vote is, the Democrat Big City Machines manufacture the 95-5% black vote supporting Democrats. If we ever had real voter ID and honest elections black "support" of Democrats would plummet. That said, and somehow this wasn't in the "Malcolm X" movie, he believed that blacks who supported Democrats were "Political chumps" and I concur

Blacks know that they can do better that failing public schools and public housing, they need to take a look at what Democrats have done to them all these years

MALCOLM X: "You're A Political Chump!" - YouTube

"Anytime you throw your weight behind a political party that controls two-thirds of the government, and that Party can’t keep the promise that it made to you during election time, and you’re dumb enough to walk around continuing to identify yourself with that Party, you’re not only a chump, but you’re a traitor to your race. – Malcolm X

They try and pass the buck to the Dixiecrats. Now back during the days when you were blind, deaf, and dumb, ignorant, politically immature, naturally you went along with that. But today as your eyes come open, and you develop political maturity, you’re able to see and think for yourself, and you can see that a Dixiecrat is nothing but a Democrat in disguise. – Malcolm X

They’ve been down there four years, and they’re — all other legislation they wanted to bring up they brought it up and gotten it out of the way, and now they bring up you. And now, they bring up you. You put them first, and they put you last, ’cause you’re a chump, a political chump". – Malcolm X

Political chumps?

Well LBJ said it best, when he justified the racial genocide known as "The Great Society", saying: "I'll have the N!&&ers voting Democratic for 200 years...".
 
Have figures to back that up? And tell us why Blue Staters are abandoning places like California, New York (Controlled by DEMOCRATS) for more fiscally responsible places like Florida, Texas, Georgia, North and South Carolina...you know the poor South? Can't be too bad eh?


Oh, he'll claim to have the figures but will refuse to link them. Instead, he will tell you to look them up yourself. They're out there, he just can't be bothered...


It should be policy here at USMB that, when making such claims, a member should be required to link their source...

Blacks are so dependent on govt that they just keep voting Dem...Except

Red States Are Welfare Queens - Business Insider
Of the twenty worst states, 16 are either Republican dominated or conservative states. Let's go through the top twenty.

New Mexico: $2.03
Mississippi: $2.02
Alaska: $1.84
Louisiana: $1.78
West Virginia: $1.76
North Dakota: $1.68
Alabama: $1.66
South Dakota: $1.53
Kentucky: $1.51
Virginia: $1.51
Montana: $1.47
Hawaii: $1.44
Maine: $1.41
Arkansas: $1.41
Oklahoma: $1.36
South Carolina: $1.35
Missouri: $1.32
Maryland: $1.30
Tennessee: $1.27
Idaho: $1.21

Does anyone else notice the overwhelming presence of northern "rugged individualist" states, like Alaska, the Dakotas and Montana, along with most of the South? Why it's almost like there's a pattern here or something.

Where can we find liberal bastions California, New York, and Massachusetts? California is 43rd, getting back only $0.78 for every dollar it sends to Washington. New York is 42nd, and one penny better off, at $0.79 per dollar. Massachusetts is 40th, receiving $0.82 for every dollar it sends to DC.

Read more: Red States Are Welfare Queens - Business Insider

Dont mention this because talking points dont match. derp.
 
Oh, he'll claim to have the figures but will refuse to link them. Instead, he will tell you to look them up yourself. They're out there, he just can't be bothered...


It should be policy here at USMB that, when making such claims, a member should be required to link their source...

Blacks are so dependent on govt that they just keep voting Dem...Except

Red States Are Welfare Queens - Business Insider
Of the twenty worst states, 16 are either Republican dominated or conservative states. Let's go through the top twenty.

New Mexico: $2.03
Mississippi: $2.02
Alaska: $1.84
Louisiana: $1.78
West Virginia: $1.76
North Dakota: $1.68
Alabama: $1.66
South Dakota: $1.53
Kentucky: $1.51
Virginia: $1.51
Montana: $1.47
Hawaii: $1.44
Maine: $1.41
Arkansas: $1.41
Oklahoma: $1.36
South Carolina: $1.35
Missouri: $1.32
Maryland: $1.30
Tennessee: $1.27
Idaho: $1.21

Does anyone else notice the overwhelming presence of northern "rugged individualist" states, like Alaska, the Dakotas and Montana, along with most of the South? Why it's almost like there's a pattern here or something.

Where can we find liberal bastions California, New York, and Massachusetts? California is 43rd, getting back only $0.78 for every dollar it sends to Washington. New York is 42nd, and one penny better off, at $0.79 per dollar. Massachusetts is 40th, receiving $0.82 for every dollar it sends to DC.

Read more: Red States Are Welfare Queens - Business Insider

Dont mention this because talking points dont match. derp.

That is SUCH a load of nonsense. Absolute BULLSHIT!

I would wager that there are more people on welfare in Chicago, NYC, and DC, than are in MISSISSIPPI.
 
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Here's a clue kids:

"In the Empire State, a family receiving Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, Medicaid, food stamps, WIC, public housing, utility assistance and free commodities (like milk and cheese) would have a package of benefits worth $38,004, the seventh-highest in the nation.

While that might not sound overly generous, remember that welfare benefits aren’t taxed, while wages are. So someone in New York would have to earn more than $21 per hour to be better off than they would be on welfare.That’s more than the average statewide entry-level salary for a teacher." When welfare pays better than work | New York Post
 
I'd rather stay here and annoy you.

So isn't it funny that here we are 14 months after Romney getting field dressed (due to the women's vote mainly) and the autopsy report by Princess Phillips or whatever her name is and you guys are still making dumbass statements about women's reproductive systems?

Gee, another week of you guys having to try to convince people you don't really hate women.

well it was the black and Hispanic vote, but then again history is not your strong point

Logic isn't yours.

Blacks and Hispanics helped but roughly 1/2 of the Blacks and Hispanics voting are female. Single women destroyed any hope of Romney ever being President. The fact that he wants to control their bodies and remove their reproductive rights was central to that. It turns out that apparently libidos make you vote for Democrats.

half of any demographic that voted for anyone was a woman. ok pinhead. i'll help you out here. you have to look at the demographic for women only. more woman voted for Obama, but more men voted for Romney. they basically cancelled each other out. and guess what, of the 20,000,000 plus new gun permit applications per year, the majority are women. they'll be thinking twice about voting for a liberal in the future.
 
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Here's a clue kids:

"In the Empire State, a family receiving Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, Medicaid, food stamps, WIC, public housing, utility assistance and free commodities (like milk and cheese) would have a package of benefits worth $38,004, the seventh-highest in the nation.

While that might not sound overly generous, remember that welfare benefits arenÂ’t taxed, while wages are. So someone in New York would have to earn more than $21 per hour to be better off than they would be on welfare.ThatÂ’s more than the average statewide entry-level salary for a teacher." When welfare pays better than work | New York Post

So who is the "slave" in this instance, the welfare recipient or the State(people/taxpayers)?
 
I'd rather stay here and annoy you.

So isn't it funny that here we are 14 months after Romney getting field dressed (due to the women's vote mainly) and the autopsy report by Princess Phillips or whatever her name is and you guys are still making dumbass statements about women's reproductive systems?

Gee, another week of you guys having to try to convince people you don't really hate women.

well it was the black and Hispanic vote, but then again history is not your strong point

Logic isn't yours.

Blacks and Hispanics helped but roughly 1/2 of the Blacks and Hispanics voting are female. Single women destroyed any hope of Romney ever being President. The fact that he wants to control their bodies and remove their reproductive rights was central to that. It turns out that apparently libidos make you vote for Democrats.

Now THAT is funny.

For four years Obama abused the power of his office to suppress the vote of his political opposition, laundering BILLIONS of campaign dollars to covertly fund DNC state operations, which defrauded the vote on an unprecedented scale, Obama's welfare queens managed to carry the vote by three million votes.

In Florida, the Democrats kept the polls open for nearly 24 hours beyond the Legal hours of Operations, with Poll operators in Dade/Broward and Palm beach counties, claiming that they didn't have enough ballots, which represents the majority of Florida's Democrat constituency. The won the state of 8.4 million voters by fewer than 70,000 votes. Which they repeated in State after State. The '12 election was a TOTAL SCAM.
 
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Personally, I do not believe that black support Democrats in the numbers purported. I remain unshakable in my conviction that whatever the true vote is, the Democrat Big City Machines manufacture the 95-5% black vote supporting Democrats. If we ever had real voter ID and honest elections black "support" of Democrats would plummet. That said, and somehow this wasn't in the "Malcolm X" movie, he believed that blacks who supported Democrats were "Political chumps" and I concur

Blacks know that they can do better that failing public schools and public housing, they need to take a look at what Democrats have done to them all these years

MALCOLM X: "You're A Political Chump!" - YouTube

"Anytime you throw your weight behind a political party that controls two-thirds of the government, and that Party can’t keep the promise that it made to you during election time, and you’re dumb enough to walk around continuing to identify yourself with that Party, you’re not only a chump, but you’re a traitor to your race. – Malcolm X

They try and pass the buck to the Dixiecrats. Now back during the days when you were blind, deaf, and dumb, ignorant, politically immature, naturally you went along with that. But today as your eyes come open, and you develop political maturity, you’re able to see and think for yourself, and you can see that a Dixiecrat is nothing but a Democrat in disguise. – Malcolm X

They’ve been down there four years, and they’re — all other legislation they wanted to bring up they brought it up and gotten it out of the way, and now they bring up you. And now, they bring up you. You put them first, and they put you last, ’cause you’re a chump, a political chump". – Malcolm X

Political chumps?

Well LBJ said it best, when he justified the racial genocide known as "The Great Society", saying: "I'll have the N!&&ers voting Democratic for 200 years...".
LBJ also said that by signing the Civil Rights Act, the South would go from Democratic to Republican. He was right.
 
Personally, I do not believe that black support Democrats in the numbers purported. I remain unshakable in my conviction that whatever the true vote is, the Democrat Big City Machines manufacture the 95-5% black vote supporting Democrats. If we ever had real voter ID and honest elections black "support" of Democrats would plummet. That said, and somehow this wasn't in the "Malcolm X" movie, he believed that blacks who supported Democrats were "Political chumps" and I concur

Blacks know that they can do better that failing public schools and public housing, they need to take a look at what Democrats have done to them all these years

MALCOLM X: "You're A Political Chump!" - YouTube

"Anytime you throw your weight behind a political party that controls two-thirds of the government, and that Party can’t keep the promise that it made to you during election time, and you’re dumb enough to walk around continuing to identify yourself with that Party, you’re not only a chump, but you’re a traitor to your race. – Malcolm X

They try and pass the buck to the Dixiecrats. Now back during the days when you were blind, deaf, and dumb, ignorant, politically immature, naturally you went along with that. But today as your eyes come open, and you develop political maturity, you’re able to see and think for yourself, and you can see that a Dixiecrat is nothing but a Democrat in disguise. – Malcolm X

They’ve been down there four years, and they’re — all other legislation they wanted to bring up they brought it up and gotten it out of the way, and now they bring up you. And now, they bring up you. You put them first, and they put you last, ’cause you’re a chump, a political chump". – Malcolm X

Political chumps?

Well LBJ said it best, when he justified the racial genocide known as "The Great Society", saying: "I'll have the N!&&ers voting Democratic for 200 years...".
LBJ also said that by signing the Civil Rights Act, the South would go from Democratic to Republican. He was right.

Such is the nature of political savants.
 
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