Arabic Writing Was Penned by a Christian

[Rigby5]

Notice how desperately you're trying to switch the topic.

so

...still no record of Arabic prior to century BCE?

No one was ever discussing a modern language like Arabic.
We have always been discussing the older Arab languages that Hebrew derived from.

 

[Rigby5]

Historic record of Arabic language
prior to 5th century BCE...

anyone?

Since we have written Arab languages going back to before 8000 BC in Jericho, you clearly are wrong.
You keep trying to derail your mistake by using "Arabic" when everyone else is talking about early Arab languages.
And it is not working.
Your attempt at deception is obvious.

 

[Rigby5]

The Lenilenape Indians originated in Siberia

But all who left Africa likely went through the Levant.
Considering boats likely were invented later.

 

[Rigby5]

Many muslims like to believe history began with islam.
It does not matter that Mohammad was taught about christianity and jesus by a monk, or the torah and psalms by rabbis.
Anything before Islam was jahiliyyah, period of ignorance

That is ridiculous because all Moslems believe in the Old Testament, which is thousands of years older than Islam.

You really also should learn to capitalize proper nouns, like Muslims, Islam, Christianity, Jesus, etc.

 

[irosie91]

That is ridiculous because all Moslems believe in the Old Testament, which is thousands of years older than Islam.

You really also should learn to capitalize proper nouns, like Muslims, Islam, Christianity, Jesus, etc.

try again----for muslims the "OLD" testament is a
FRAUD----being altered continuously for the sake
of "ZIONISM"------the "NEW" testament is even
a more horrific FRAUD. I learned his stuff in a
mosque

 

[Rigby5]

,,, Another ---somewhat obscure idea is that Hebrew as a language is a dialect of Arabic.
It is an ethnocentric concept

Wrong.
No one ever said Hebrew was a dialect of Arabic.
The reality is that Hebrew derived from older Arab languages.
Since Arabic is a modern language, obviously no one was ever talking about Arabic.

 

[irosie91]

We were never talking about Arabic, but Old Arabic and other previous Arab languages.
Hebrew is considered a Semitic language because it came from earlier Arab languages.
If Hebrew had not come from earlier Arab language, then Hebrew and Jews would not be Semitic.

you are confused----you are EQUATING the word
"semitic" with arabic

 

[Rigby5]

Yup----Europe became LITERATE much much later than did the
middle and far east. The muslims became literate much much later
than did the non muslims of the middle and far east---MUCH MUCH MUCH
much later. "ISLAM" has nothing to do with keeping literacy and
the knowledge of the ancients alive. In fact literate muslims were
a rarity until very recently. It is very likely true that there were more non
muslims literate in Arabic than muslims in countries like Egypt and Syria for
quite a while

Wrong.
Europe fell into what is known as the Dark Ages after the fall of the Roman Empire, around 500 AD.
Europe remained essentially illiterate except for a few monasteries, until around 1200 AD or even later.
The Quran is clear that all Moslems must try to be literate, including women.
So you not only are wrong, but deliberately lying.

{...
In the period, that western history has come to call the Dark Ages, the love affair between Baghdad and books began. In a time when churches across Europe felt themselves fortunate to have a library consisting of several books, there was a street in Baghdad lined with more then 100 shops, each selling books, stationary, or both. Across the western world, literacy was restricted to the rich or religious authorities, but in Baghdad, the people had access to more then 30 libraries.

Within 200 years after the death of Prophet Muhammad, the small Islamic nation grew into an Empire that stretched from North Africa to Arabia, from Persia to Uzbekistan and pushed onwards to the frontiers of India and beyond. Around 750CE Baghdad, the city built on the banks of the Tigris River was established as the capital of the Islamic empire. Its location connected it to countries as far away as China, and Baghdad soon became not only the political and administrative centre but also the hub of culture and learning.

Men and women from all parts of the Empire flocked to Baghdad and brought with them knowledge from the far corners of the known world.

Muslims, Jews, Christians, Hindus, Zoroastrians, and even people from other more obscure faiths lived in Baghdad. Books began to symbolise life of Baghdad. The streets were alive with authors, translators, scribes, illuminators, librarians, binders, collectors, and sellers. However, these people from such diverse backgrounds need to be connected. Arabic developed as the language of scholarship and the connection was established.

The works of Plato, Aristotle, Ptolemy, and Plutarch among many others were translated into Arabic. Jewish philosophers used Arabic translations of Greek philosophical works to write their own treatise and essays. When Europe began to emerge from the Dark Ages into a period of enlightenment, they relied on books written in Arabic to redeem and reclaim the foundations of the Western empire.

Many of the original books translated in Baghdad were lost or destroyed in their home countries, and remained only in their Arabic translations. The scholars of Baghdad were responsible for preserving classical works from the Greeks, Romans, and Egyptians and even translated classics from Persia, India and China. These great works were then translated from Arabic back into languages such as Turkish, Persian, Hebrew, and Latin. Catholic theologian, Thomas Aquinas made his famous integration of faith and reason after reading Aristotle’s philosophy in a translation by Baghdad scholars.

The scholars of Baghdad not only collected and synthesised the great works, they added to the body of knowledge. They opened up new fields of scholarship, such as celestial mechanics, and introduced the world to algebra and geometry. A Baghdad scholar produced an ophthalmology textbook, believed the world’s first medical book containing anatomical drawings. It was the definitive work in both the east and west, and was used for more than eight centuries.
...}

Literacy in Islam (part 1 of 3): Books in Baghdad

Even war and occupation cannot erase Baghdad’s legacy of literacy.

www.islamreligion.com

 

[Rigby5]

you are confused----you are EQUATING the word
"semitic" with arabic

No, YOU are lying.
I am equating the word "Semitic" with "of an Arab language group" as it correctly means.
That fact you continually try to substitute "arabic" when I use "Arab" shows a deliberate attempt to deceive.
You do not even seem to be able to keep your capitalization correct.

 

[irosie91]

No, YOU are lying.
I am equating the word "Semitic" with "of an Arab language group" as it correctly means.
That fact you continually try to substitute "arabic" when I use "Arab" shows a deliberate attempt to deceive.
You do not even seem to be able to keep your capitalization correct.

you continue your idiotic sophistry. SEMITIC as a language group does not mean "ARABIC LANGUAGE
GROUP" ---it means "Semitic language group"

 

[Rigby5]

you continue your idiotic sophistry. SEMITIC as a language group does not mean "ARABIC LANGUAGE
GROUP" ---it means "Semitic language group"

You are still lying.
No one ever said that Semitic means and Arabic language group, but that Semitic means an ARAB language group.
All Semitic languages are of Arab origins.
It is by tracing language, that they determined the original Hebrew tribes had to be Arabs.
Hebrew is of Arab origins.
Semitic means from Shem, a son of Noah, who is supposed to be the father of all Arabs.
It does not mean Hebrew, since the Hebrew were only a very tiny offshoot of the descendants of Shem, all of the Arabs.

 

[irosie91]

You are still lying.
No one ever said that Semitic means and Arabic language group, but that Semitic means an ARAB language group.
All Semitic languages are of Arab origins.
It is by tracing language, that they determined the original Hebrew tribes had to be Arabs.
Hebrew is of Arab origins.
Semitic means from Shem, a son of Noah, who is supposed to be the father of all Arabs.
It does not mean Hebrew, since the Hebrew were only a very tiny offshoot of the descendants of Shem, all of the Arabs.

wrong again-----"arab" refers to an area way off-----
way off in the horizon------and is of hebrew origin---long before "arabic" was a written language.

 

[Rigby5]

wrong again-----"arab" refers to an area way off-----
way off in the horizon------and is of hebrew origin---long before "arabic" was a written language.

Totally wrong.
It does not matter what the word Arab translates to.
The point is the people who went to the Arabian Peninsula first lived in the Levant, and are the ancestors of the Hebrew.
That is done, proven, science.
Nothing is of Hebrew origins, because the Hebrew were a small and insignificant offshoot of the main group, which is Arab.
And Hebrew was one of the last languages to have a written script.
The Hebrew tribes used Aramaic, which is of Arab origins, until around the year 0.
Only then is there a written Hebrew script.

 

[irosie91]

Totally wrong.
It does not matter what the word Arab translates to.
The point is the people who went to the Arabian Peninsula first lived in the Levant, and are the ancestors of the Hebrew.
That is done, proven, science.
Nothing is of Hebrew origins, because the Hebrew were a small and insignificant offshoot of the main group, which is Arab.
And Hebrew was one of the last languages to have a written script.
The Hebrew tribes used Aramaic, which is of Arab origins, until around the year 0.
Only then is there a written Hebrew script.

wrong again. The statement "... people who went to the arabian penninsula first lived in the Levant..."
is meaningless. Hebrew had a written script long
before arabic. "the Hebrew tribes" used Aramaic
picked up in Babylon----Babylon was a dominant
power LONG before the development of arabic script
-----aramaic script is not even related to arabic script

 

[surada]

You are still lying.
No one ever said that Semitic means and Arabic language group, but that Semitic means an ARAB language group.
All Semitic languages are of Arab origins.
It is by tracing language, that they determined the original Hebrew tribes had to be Arabs.
Hebrew is of Arab origins.
Semitic means from Shem, a son of Noah, who is supposed to be the father of all Arabs.
It does not mean Hebrew, since the Hebrew were only a very tiny offshoot of the descendants of Shem, all of the Arabs.

The Akkadians had a written language long before Abraham. Now Jewish scholars are using the Ugarit texts to translate Hebrew

 

[irosie91]

Somewhere along the line, islamic sophists decided to
PUSH the concept of "mecca" as the cradle of
western civilization-----sorry folks---it is still MESOPOTAMIA and its precincts (with the Nile valley thrown in)

 

[Rigby5]

wrong again. The statement "... people who went to the arabian penninsula first lived in the Levant..."
is meaningless. Hebrew had a written script long
before arabic. "the Hebrew tribes" used Aramaic
picked up in Babylon----Babylon was a dominant
power LONG before the development of arabic script
-----aramaic script is not even related to arabic script

The Arabs are the first inhabitants in the Levant, before anyone lived in the Arabian Peninsula.
The Hebrew came later, as a branch of Arabs.
Hebrew were Arabs, and spoke an Arab vocal language.
When they had to write, they wrote in an Arab language.
Hebrew had no written language until at least 100 BC, and the Hebrew used other Arab written languages before then.
Arabs created the whole idea of a phonetic script.
Aramaic is an Arab language.
Babylonian is an Arab language and Babylonians are Arab.
Arabic IS related to Aramaic.

This chart only shows Arab languages.

 

[surada]

try again----for muslims the "OLD" testament is a
FRAUD----being altered continuously for the sake
of "ZIONISM"------the "NEW" testament is even
a more horrific FRAUD. I learned his stuff in a
mosque

. Nope. Muslims rever the patriarchs.

 

[Rigby5]

Somewhere along the line, islamic sophists decided to
PUSH the concept of "mecca" as the cradle of
western civilization-----sorry folks---it is still MESOPOTAMIA and its precincts (with the Nile valley thrown in)

{...
The Akkadian Empire (/əˈkeɪdiən/)[4] was the first ancient empire of Mesopotamia after the long-lived civilization of Sumer. It was centered in the city of Akkad (/ˈækæd/)[5] and its surrounding region. The empire united Akkadian and Sumerian speakers under one rule. The Akkadian Empire exercised influence across Mesopotamia, the Levant, and Anatolia, sending military expeditions as far south as Dilmun and Magan (modern Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, and Oman) in the Arabian Peninsula.[6]

The Akkadian Empire reached its political peak between the 24th and 22nd centuries BC, following the conquests by its founder Sargon of Akkad.[7] Under Sargon and his successors, the Akkadian language was briefly imposed on neighboring conquered states such as Elam and Gutium. Akkad is sometimes regarded as the first empire in history, though the meaning of this term is not precise, and there are earlier Sumerian claimants.[8][9]

After the fall of the Akkadian Empire, the people of Mesopotamia eventually coalesced into two major Akkadian-speaking nations: Assyria in the north, and Babylonia in the south.
...}

The Akkadians were Arab.

 

[irosie91]

{...
The Akkadian Empire (/əˈkeɪdiən/)[4] was the first ancient empire of Mesopotamia after the long-lived civilization of Sumer. It was centered in the city of Akkad (/ˈækæd/)[5] and its surrounding region. The empire united Akkadian and Sumerian speakers under one rule. The Akkadian Empire exercised influence across Mesopotamia, the Levant, and Anatolia, sending military expeditions as far south as Dilmun and Magan (modern Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, and Oman) in the Arabian Peninsula.[6]

The Akkadian Empire reached its political peak between the 24th and 22nd centuries BC, following the conquests by its founder Sargon of Akkad.[7] Under Sargon and his successors, the Akkadian language was briefly imposed on neighboring conquered states such as Elam and Gutium. Akkad is sometimes regarded as the first empire in history, though the meaning of this term is not precise, and there are earlier Sumerian claimants.[8][9]

After the fall of the Akkadian Empire, the people of Mesopotamia eventually coalesced into two major Akkadian-speaking nations: Assyria in the north, and Babylonia in the south.
...}

The Akkadians were Arab.

the statement "...the Akkadians were 'arab' " is utterly senseless.