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Arabic Writing Was Penned by a Christian

DudleySmith

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There was no Ur of the Chaldeas in the time of Abraham.. That was an error. Abraham was from Urfa near Haran.. See Ras Shamra on a map.

Arabs along the coasts are much darker than people who live in the interior of the Arabian Peninsula because they have intermarried with people from East Africa and the Indus Vaalley.

Already linked to that info, not only here but several times in other posts.
 

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“Ur of the Chaldeans” (Gen 11:28-31)
A later editor or scribe was aware of more than one city called “Ur” in the ancient Near East. Since the Chaldeans did not exist in the ancient world until nearly a thousand years after Abram’s day, the designation “of the Chaldeans” was without question added by a later scribe in order to distinguish which Ur …
 

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The so-called 'Semitic' languages came from north of Arabia.

Although the evidence showing where the
Semites came from is not yet clear, we can still use written and archeological sources to
definitively confirm that the Semites came to central Mesopotamia, Syria and Palestine
not from the south (Arabia), but from the north (northwestern Mesopotamia) and from the
upper courses of the two large-scale rivers in Western Asia, the Tigris and the Euphrates.
The Bible concretely designates the fatherland of the Jewish patriarchs, specifying
the region surrounding the city of Haran which was situated approximately 30 km to the
southwest of today’s Turkish city Sanliurfa (ancient Edessa), not far from the border with
Syria. The biblical texts unambiguously show that the city of Ur in Sumer, from which
Abraham came into Canaan (Palestine), was never his place of birth. Moreover, on the
way to Canaan, the family of Abraham and his father Terah, stopped for a long time in
the place of their birth, Haran.3 This is where Terah died and the clan leadership was
transferred to his son – Abraham. Later, the Bible again recalls that the native land of the
ancient Jewish forefathers was not Canaan, but Haran, in northwestern Mesopotamia.
The book of Genesis also gives two names for this region: Aram-Naharaim and Padan-
Aram.4 Obviously, they secured the region of Haran after the arrival of the Aramaeans.
It was precisely here that Abraham sent his trusted servant to find a wife for his son Isaac,
since he did not want him to form relations with the foreigners in Canaan.5



And, the ancient peoples from which Abraham came from were from even further north,

All the ancient Egyptian frescos depict the
Semites as people with relatively light skin, as compared to the Egyptians themselves.
Consequently, they came from regions located primarily to the north where the sun’s
radiation was less of an issue than in Egypt or in northern Arabia.


They were not originally a equatorial people from Africa, either. They were mostly likely descended from an early European peoples, and inter-married with the southern peoples, as we know they did with Canaanites and others, hence the Babylonian fictions invented to shut those out from Temple and aristocratic government posts by the Babylonian Jews re Ezra. There was no 'Jewish race'; that's a silly scam invented by Babylonian Jews and their extensive 'racial purity' codes, later adopted by the Pharisees who invented 'rabbinical Judaism' around 135-150 A.D.. 'Arabs' had nothing to do with it. All they did was plagariaze 12 or so books of Moses and 'revised them to claim Arabs were the Center Of The Universe and start their own racist cult.

No significant disagreement from me.
I agree that the basis of all Semitic languages, Old Arabic, originated from the Levant and not the Arabian Peninsula.
However I would say that since all humans came out of Africa less than 100,000 years ago, the early Europeans likely were also darker.
I think it is more inbreeding that lightened skin color.
 

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No significant disagreement from me.
I agree that the basis of all Semitic languages, Old Arabic, originated from the Levant and not the Arabian Peninsula.
However I would say that since all humans came out of Africa less than 100,000 years ago, the early Europeans likely were also darker.
I think it is more inbreeding that lightened skin color.

The Akkadians were from the Arabian Peninsula.

Akkadian language - Wikipedia

Akkadian is an extinct East Semitic language that was spoken in ancient Mesopotamia (Akkad, Assyria, Isin, Larsa and Babylonia) from the third millennium BC until its gradual replacement by Akkadian-influenced Old Aramaic among Mesopotamians by the 8th century BC. It is the earliest attested Semitic language. It used the cuneiform script, which was originally used to write the unrelated, and als…

Akkadian belongs with the other Semitic languages in the Near Eastern branch of the Afroasiatic languages, a family native to the Middle East, Arabian Peninsula, the Horn of Africa, parts of Anatolia, North Africa, Malta, Canary Islands and parts of West Africa (Hausa). Akkadian and its successor Aramaic, however, are only ever attested in Mesopotamia and the Near East.
 

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The Arabs, like the Canaanites, Chaldeans, Akkadians, Amorites, Urites, Nabatians, Phoenicians, Philistines, etc., have been in Palestine from 8000 BC on.
Jews only invaded around 1000 BC and ruled for about 250 years.
That's it.
They left.
Now Zionists want to again claim they are the "Chosen People" and Palestine is the "Promised Land", but it is all obviously a lie.

Nice try, but the earliest historic mention of Israel is in the 12th century BCE,
of Hebrew language is in the 10th century BCE

And the earliest historic mention of Arabs is in the 9th century BCE
of Arabic language is only in the 5th century BCE

I've also noticed you didn't even address the fact that
Arabs comprise the largest illiterate group on earth
is that why you're desperate to switch the topic?
 

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Nice try, but the earliest historic mention of Israel is in the 12th century BCE,
of Hebrew language is in the 10th century BCE

And the earliest historic mention of Arabs is in the 9th century BCE
of Arabic language is only in the 5th century BCE

I've also noticed you didn't even address the fact that
Arabs comprise the largest illiterate group on earth
is that why you're desperate to switch the topic?

The Akkadians were much older thaan the 12th century BC.. and they were from Arabia.

Ancient Akkadian Civilization – Ancient Civilizations World

The AkkadiansThe First Mesopotamian Empire: The Akkadian EmpireDecline and Fall of The Akkadian EmpireAkkadian Culture’S Contributions

Kish was a city in northern Lower Mesopotamia (which would later become Akkad’s land). It was likely founded at around the beginning of the third millennium, although there was an older human presence. It comprised the settlements of Ingharra and Uhaimir, along with others of less importance. It was located some 15 kilometers east of Babylon.

With this, Sargon became the first monarch in history to unite the entire Mesopotamian basi…
See more on ancientcivilizationsworld.com


Sargon of Akkad - Wikipedia

Sargon of Akkad , also known as Sargon the Great, was the first ruler of the Akkadian Empire, known for his conquests of the Sumerian city-states in the 24th to 23rd centuries BC.

He is sometimes identified as the first person in recorded history to rule over an empire. He was the founder of the "Sargonic" or "Old Akkadian" dynasty, which ruled for about a century after his death until the Gutian conquest of
 

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The Akkadians were from the Arabian Peninsula.

Akkadian language - Wikipedia

Akkadian is an extinct East Semitic language that was spoken in ancient Mesopotamia (Akkad, Assyria, Isin, Larsa and Babylonia) from the third millennium BC until its gradual replacement by Akkadian-influenced Old Aramaic among Mesopotamians by the 8th century BC. It is the earliest attested Semitic language. It used the cuneiform script, which was originally used to write the unrelated, and als…

Akkadian belongs with the other Semitic languages in the Near Eastern branch of the Afroasiatic languages, a family native to the Middle East, Arabian Peninsula, the Horn of Africa, parts of Anatolia, North Africa, Malta, Canary Islands and parts of West Africa (Hausa). Akkadian and its successor Aramaic, however, are only ever attested in Mesopotamia and the Near East.

Akkadian is an East Semitic language,
Arabic is a Central Semitic language.

Read your own link, it contradict;s your mistake.
 

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The Akkadians were much older thaan the 12th century BC.. and they were from Arabia.

Ancient Akkadian Civilization – Ancient Civilizations World

The AkkadiansThe First Mesopotamian Empire: The Akkadian EmpireDecline and Fall of The Akkadian EmpireAkkadian Culture’S Contributions

Kish was a city in northern Lower Mesopotamia (which would later become Akkad’s land). It was likely founded at around the beginning of the third millennium, although there was an older human presence. It comprised the settlements of Ingharra and Uhaimir, along with others of less importance. It was located some 15 kilometers east of Babylon.

With this, Sargon became the first monarch in history to unite the entire Mesopotamian basi…
See more on ancientcivilizationsworld.com


Sargon of Akkad - Wikipedia

Sargon of Akkad , also known as Sargon the Great, was the first ruler of the Akkadian Empire, known for his conquests of the Sumerian city-states in the 24th to 23rd centuries BC.

He is sometimes identified as the first person in recorded history to rule over an empire. He was the founder of the "Sargonic" or "Old Akkadian" dynasty, which ruled for about a century after his death until the Gutian conquest of

Arabic was not the spoken language of Akkadians,
the first historic record of Arabic is only in the 5th century BCE

 
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Arabic was not the spoken language of Akkadians,
the first historic record of Arabic is in the 5th century BCE


Interesting.. Sargon was an arab and the marsh arabs were in southern Iraq 6,000 years ago. They were from Eastern coast of Arabia. Plus Yemen was supplying Frankensense and Myrr to the Pharoahs.
The aaAkkadians go way back to 22 centuries before Christ.
 

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Interesting.. Sargon was an arab and the marsh arabs were in southern Iraq 6,000 years ago. They were from Eastern coast of Arabia. Plus Yemen was supplying Frankensense and Myrr to the Pharoahs.
The aaAkkadians go way back to 22 centuries before Christ.

Nice anecdote,
but did he speak Arabic?

Any record of "Arabic 6000 yrs ago"?
 

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Akkadian is an East Semitic language,
Arabic is a Central Semitic language.

Read your own link, it contradict;s your mistake.

The people of the Arabian peninsula began migrating north over 10,000 years ago because or climate change as Arabia became more arid. Sumer had a written language in 3,000 BC...

Hebrew belongs to the Canaanite group of languages. Canaanite languages are a branch of the Northwest Semitic family of languages.
According to Avraham Ben-Yosef, Hebrew flourished as a spoken language in the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah during the period from about 1200 to 586 BCE. Scholars debate the degree to which Hebrew was a spoken vernacular in ancient times.
 

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That's a nice theory,
but did he speak Arabic?

Any record of "Arabic 6000 yrs ago"?

They have recently found some 8,000 year old monuments in Arabia with writing on them and I know there were lots of semitic languages in Arabia and Yemen long before Christianity.

They had to be around.. Both Abraham and Moses had Arab wives.
 

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The people of the Arabian peninsula began migrating north over 10,000 years ago because or climate change as Arabia became more arid. Sumer had a written language in 3,000 BC...

Hebrew belongs to the Canaanite group of languages. Canaanite languages are a branch of the Northwest Semitic family of languages.
According to Avraham Ben-Yosef, Hebrew flourished as a spoken language in the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah during the period from about 1200 to 586 BCE. Scholars debate the degree to which Hebrew was a spoken vernacular in ancient times.

Notice how desperately you're trying to switch the topic.

so

...still no record of Arabic prior to century BCE?
 

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Notice how desperately you're trying to switch the topic.

so

...still no record of Arabic prior to century BCE?

Wikizero - Proto-Arabic language
Proto-Arabic is the name given to the hypothetical reconstructed ancestor of all the varieties of Arabic attested since the 9th century BC. [1] [2] There are two lines of evidence to reconstruct Proto-Arabic:
 

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Wikizero - Proto-Arabic language
Proto-Arabic is the name given to the hypothetical reconstructed ancestor of all the varieties of Arabic attested since the 9th century BC. [1] [2] There are two lines of evidence to reconstruct Proto-Arabic:
Wikizero?? Bebsi Kola...?
What is this rubbish?

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