Any debate on global warming now OVER!?

[abu afak]

Yup, the "debate is over."
Skookerasbil LOST.
He Started the Wrongest thread EVER made here with his NINE Year running "Skeptics are Winning" thread in 2013-2022.
Nailed it!
Astonishing Call in 2013!

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[ding]

Yup, the "debate is over."
Skookerasbil LOST.
He Started the Wrongest thread EVER made here with his NINE Year running "Skeptics are Winning" thread in 2013-2022.
Nailed it!
Astonishing Call in 2013!

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The empirical climate evidence of the geologic record says the debate isn't over.

When the northern hemisphere deglaciates the oceans and atmosphere warm which is what is happening today.

 

[alang1216]

You were asked for a PHOTO and you responded with another FUDGE CHART.

Can you show us a PHOTO? NO


Thanks for the confession...



As for the answer to air pressure, yeah, it does change daily, but the 70 year chart shows it DROPPING because EARTH IS ACTUALLY ADDING ICE which explains why YOU CANNOT SHOW US ONE SINGLE PHOTO OF OCEAN RISE...

Court Identifies Eleven Inaccuracies in Al Gore’s ‘An Inconvenient Truth’

Here's something American media are virtually guaranteed to not report: a British court has determined that Al Gore's schlockumentary "An Inconvenient Truth" contains at least eleven material falsehoods. It seems a safe bet Matt Lauer and Diane Sawyer won't be discussing this Tuesday morning...

www.newsbusters.org

• The film suggests that the Antarctic ice covering is melting, the evidence was that it is in fact increasing.

Study: Mass gains of Antarctic ice sheet greater than losses - NASA Science

A new NASA study says that an increase in Antarctic snow accumulation that began 10,000 years ago is currently adding enough ice to the continent to outweigh the increased losses from its thinning glaciers.

science.nasa.gov

the Antarctic ice sheet showed a net gain of 112 billion tons of ice a year from 1992 to 2001. That net gain slowed to 82 billion tons of ice per year between 2003 and 2008.

I'm seeing a pattern here. Any data you don't like if 'fudge', any data that supports your point is perfectly acceptable.

 

[alang1216]

So, is there any air trapped in Antarctic ice or not???

PARROTING MORON of LIES you are...

Talk about 'fudge'! What percent of our atmosphere is trapped in ice?

 

[EMH]

I'm seeing a pattern here. Any data you don't like if 'fudge', any data that supports your point is perfectly acceptable.

To be moronic enough to believe the Co2 FRAUD requires not understanding the difference between DATA and FUDGE.

Take the atmospheric temps...

We have two and only two measures of atmospheric temps, satellites and balloons....

They recorded NO WARMING in the atmosphere despite rising Co2.

What did the Co2 FRAUD do with that?

It FUDGED.


Satellites were fudged by claiming "orbit wobble" which would not affect the IR readings at all = BULLSHIT

Balloons were FUDGED by claiming a "shade issue" which was CONSTANT the whole time, so in theory all data should be "adjusted" with a CONSTANT that would keep a FLAT LINE a FLAT LINE, but somehow this CONSTANT issue was FUDGED so that a FLAT LINE became an "upward slope."

That requires an IQ over 5 to understand, which is why you don't...

 

[EMH]

Talk about 'fudge'! What percent of our atmosphere is trapped in ice?

LOL!!

We do have data on that...

Google Search

www.google.com

The atmospheric pressure during the Jurassic period was much higher than it is today, estimated to be between 3.2–5.0 bar, compared to the current 1 bar.


and THAT is what happens when Earth has TWO POLAR OCEANS and hence NO ICE, and gives an estimate of how much of "our atmosphere" as you moronically phrased it is trapped in Greenland and Antarctic ice now...


Now, you explain why Jurassic had triple today's Surface Air Pressure...

LOL!!


and by the way, if "the ice is melting" as your side claims, WHY IS SURFACE AIR PRESSURE DROPPING OVER THE PAST 70 years?

 

[EMH]

The empirical climate evidence of the geologic record says the debate isn't over.

When the northern hemisphere deglaciates the oceans and atmosphere warm which is what is happening today.

There is no atmospheric warming.

Sincerely,

highly correlated satellite and balloon data



Why? because Co2 does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

 

[alang1216]

The atmospheric pressure during the Jurassic period was much higher than it is today, estimated to be between 3.2–5.0 bar, compared to the current 1 bar.

and THAT is what happens when Earth has TWO POLAR OCEANS and hence NO ICE, and gives an estimate of how much of "our atmosphere" as you moronically phrased it is trapped in Greenland and Antarctic ice now...

Isn't 'estimate' a synonym for what you call 'fudge'?

 

[EMH]

Isn't 'estimate' a synonym for what you call 'fudge'?

No, FUDGE is when DATA from INSTRUMENTS is "altered" to fit the Co2 FRAUD's bullshit narrative.

That you are questioning this is proof you have NO IDEA how much compressed air is trapped in ice age glacier.

Google Search

www.google.com

Most weather services say that, on average, the amount of snow is 10 times the rainfall volume; that is, 1 inch of rain is equivalent to 10 inches of snowfall.


Which means 10 inches of snow is 1 inch of water and 9 inches of AIR...

Do you know what an ICE CORE is??

 

[Slyhunter]

We are still in an Ice Age.

They found proof that what is now 1.3 miles deep ice, Antarctica, used to be a forest.
Just about 9 minutes in, they document that fossil wood was found in the Arctic.

Also in Iceland.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0034666722001221

Here they verify it exists while lamenting Climate Change.

Fungal attack on archaeological wooden artefacts in the Arctic—implications in a changing climate - Scientific Reports

Climate change is expected to accelerate the microbial degradation of the many extraordinary well-preserved organic archaeological deposits found in the Arctic. This could potentially lead to a major loss of wooden artefacts that are still buried within the region. Here, we carry out the first...

www.nature.com

What was once green may well be green again. Climate change is not a bad thing.

 

[skookerasbil]

Bah Bah Booey

Fossil fuels still dominate global power systems​

By Gavin Maguire
November 30, 20237:00 AM EST

https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/fossil-fuels-still-dominate-global-power-systems-2023-11-30/#:~:text=Over%2060%%20of%20global%20electricity%20generated%20so%20far

 

[skookerasbil]

Understanding the Continued Dominance of Fossil Fuels​

Understanding the Continued Dominance of Fossil Fuels


Nobody caring about the "hottest" 10 years

 

[skookerasbil]

If the "science" fails to transcend beyond its own field............

It doesnt mean dick.........

 

[alang1216]

No, FUDGE is when DATA from INSTRUMENTS is "altered" to fit the Co2 FRAUD's bullshit narrative.

That you are questioning this is proof you have NO IDEA how much compressed air is trapped in ice age glacier.

Google Search

www.google.com

Most weather services say that, on average, the amount of snow is 10 times the rainfall volume; that is, 1 inch of rain is equivalent to 10 inches of snowfall.


Which means 10 inches of snow is 1 inch of water and 9 inches of AIR...

Do you know what an ICE CORE is??

Glacier ice is 10% air bubbles. I could find no study that says what the impacts of that are or if that air is trapped forever.

 

[ding]

There is no atmospheric warming.

Sincerely,

highly correlated satellite and balloon data



Why? because Co2 does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

There absolutely is atmospheric warming just as the oceans are warming too. Happens every interglacial period.

You don't even know the surface of the planet is not heated evenly and that's why weather exists. You are a moron.

 

[ding]

I'm seeing a pattern here. Any data you don't like if 'fudge', any data that supports your point is perfectly acceptable.

He's an idiot.

 

[westwall]

Glacier ice is 10% air bubbles. I could find no study that says what the impacts of that are or if that air is trapped forever.

Nothing is trapped forever. Everything on Earth has been something else before. It may take a billion or so years, but everything is recycled.

 

[alang1216]

We are still in an Ice Age.

They found proof that what is now 1.3 miles deep ice, Antarctica, used to be a forest.
Just about 9 minutes in, they document that fossil wood was found in the Arctic.

Also in Iceland.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0034666722001221

Here they verify it exists while lamenting Climate Change.

Fungal attack on archaeological wooden artefacts in the Arctic—implications in a changing climate - Scientific Reports

Climate change is expected to accelerate the microbial degradation of the many extraordinary well-preserved organic archaeological deposits found in the Arctic. This could potentially lead to a major loss of wooden artefacts that are still buried within the region. Here, we carry out the first...

www.nature.com

What was once green may well be green again. Climate change is not a bad thing.

Any climate change will make some winners and others losers.

I think some of the evidence you cited is due to continental drift. Antarctica was not always on the south pole.

 

[EMH]

Glacier ice is 10% air bubbles. I could find no study that says what the impacts of that are or if that air is trapped forever.

LOL!!

and it never occurred to you that the ice might melt and release that air.... even as an ICEBERG....

Gosh, you are really stupid. No wonder you parrot the Co2 FRAUD's bullshit religiously...


Care to disclose a source for the "10%" claim....

 

[EMH]

There absolutely is atmospheric warming

Not in the ACTUAL DATA, the highly correlated satellite and balloon data, which your side had to FUDGE to show "warming" that DOES NOT EXIST...

just as the oceans are warming

LOL!!!

Then why is the record decade for canes still the 1940s, second place the 1890s?

Why is the last time a Cat Five got as far north as Martha's Vineyard 1938?



If oceans were warming, which they clearly are not, there would be MORE and BIGGER canes and YOUR SIDE CLAIMED THIS before...


To have a BREAKOUT in CANES we would need to see Cat 4s and 5s hitting north of New Jersey.... and for the past few years nothing north of Georgia has been able to hold even Cat 1, because THE WATER IS TOO COLD TO SUSTAIN....



Your side also claims "ocean rise" with FUDGE but when pressed to show us ONE SINGLE PHOTO of this your side cannot do that... while our side has EVER SINGLE PHOTO set old and new....

and this is because your side has been LYING ALL ALONG about Antarctic ice, which grows EVERY YEAR....