This global warming is killing us!!

[EMH]

The earth has been warmer before human activity

No doubt. What happens when Earth has less than the 9 million cubic miles of ice it has now, all about where land is near the poles.

The sun creates climate

But for the short term claim of "climate change" Sun is a constant.

In the past million years Greenland froze while North America thawed at the same time. Sun did not do that. Neither did atmosphere or a trace gas in the atmosphere.

 

[Hafar1014]

No doubt. What happens when Earth has less than the 9 million cubic miles of ice it has now, all about where land is near the poles.





But for the short term claim of "climate change" Sun is a constant.

In the past million years Greenland froze while North America thawed at the same time. Sun did not do that. Neither did atmosphere or a trace gas in the atmosphere.

The tilt of the earths axis also has a major effect

 

[EMH]

The tilt of the earths axis also has a major effect

Not for climate change. It certainly causes winter and summer, but that is weather that happens every year. Every year the Sun does the same thing to Earth = constant.

Climate is that which defines the range of weather Earth can experience. But it is not weather or seasons.

Jurassic had little to no land near the poles, and hence little to no ice =

warmer, wetter, much higher surface air pressure, higher oceans, more and bigger/stronger canes


Amount of ice on Earth dictates climate given current orbit and Sun. Ice controls

temperature
humidity
atmospheric thickness, surface air pressure
size of canes that can form
ocean levels


and the amount of ice on Earth is about where land is relative to the poles.

90% on Antarctica

7% on Greenland


The obvious correlation is that land near the poles has almost all of Earth's ice, and land moves, not that hard to understand...


and perfectly explains why Greenland froze (moving WNW) while at the same time NA melted (moving WSW).

 

[sealybobo]

There is zero evidence human activity changes the climate. The earth has been warmer before human activity. The sun creates climate. Green plants convert CO2 to O2 and there is no excess.

Oh shut up old man. I'm sure you heat your home with coal.

Half the GOP knows you are full of shit but they vote along with you anyways. They don't care. They know MMCC is real but they don't think they/we can do anything about it. So you say you are a true flat earther who denies it is even real. Interesting. I don't believe you believe that. I think you are too smart for that. You just don't care and will lie if you have to. Just keep denying it.

Recently Elon said he wanted to nuke another planets polar caps to see if he can turn it into a livable place. So we know human activity can affect a planet.

Anyways, I've wasted too much of my time talking to you about this already old man. Go smell the roses. Life is short. My brothers father in law just died at 80.

 

[Stryder50]

"Prior to the Industrial Revolution, CO2 levels were consistently around 280 ppm for almost 6,000 years of human civilization."

Carbon dioxide now more than 50% higher than pre-industrial levels

Carbon dioxide measured at NOAA’s Mauna Loa Atmospheric Baseline Observatory peaked for 2022 at 421 parts per million in May, pushing the atmosphere further into territory not seen for millions of years, scientists from NOAA and Scripps Institution of Oceanography offsite link at the University...

www.noaa.gov

Which works out to about one part in 3,570 which is even harder on flora/plants to survive. Even 300 is considered a bare minimum for most flora/plants. Higher is much better. Commercial greenhouses often run at about 1,200 ppm of CO2, plants/flora really excel and no harmful effect upon the humans working there.

Go back past that 6,000 year mark and notice that Earth's CO2 levels have usually been several times the 280 ppm.

And it appears that global temps might drive the natural CO2 levels rather than the other way around.

 

[BlindBoo]

Green plants convert CO2 to O2 and there is no excess.

Only during daylight hours. Most plants release CO2 at night.

 

[westwall]

"Prior to the Industrial Revolution, CO2 levels were consistently around 280 ppm for almost 6,000 years of human civilization."

Carbon dioxide now more than 50% higher than pre-industrial levels

Carbon dioxide measured at NOAA’s Mauna Loa Atmospheric Baseline Observatory peaked for 2022 at 421 parts per million in May, pushing the atmosphere further into territory not seen for millions of years, scientists from NOAA and Scripps Institution of Oceanography offsite link at the University...

www.noaa.gov

So what

 

[Hafar1014]

Only during daylight hours. Most plants release CO2 at night.

But the result is homeostasis. Its never night every where the sun always shine somewhere so the reduction of CO2 never stops

 

[BlindBoo]

So what

If the current trend continues Greenland's Ice sheet will melt in about a thousand years. So, for the living, not much "what" there. Just think, if that holds true in about ten thousand years the southern iced sheet will melt too. So what.

If is the key. If is the most powerful word in the English language.

 

[BlindBoo]

But the result is homeostasis. Its never night every where the sun always shine somewhere so the reduction of CO2 never stops

When the resulting homeostatasis is reached, there is no more reduction in the CO2 levels.

 

[westwall]

If the current trend continues Greenland's Ice sheet will melt in about a thousand years. So, for the living, not much "what" there. Just think, if that holds true in about ten thousand years the southern iced sheet will melt too. So what.

If is the key. If is the most powerful word in the English language.

No it won't. CO2 is plant food. There isn't enough of a concentration in our atmosphere to matter. Water vapor overwhelms what infinitismal GHG effect the CO2 in our atmosphere does have.

It literally is a non starter.

 

[westwall]

When the resulting homeostatasis is reached, there is no more reduction in the CO2 levels.

Homeostasis is NEVER reached. Whenever there is an abundance of CO2 in the atmosphere, it enters the oceans and creates limestone.

The last time that happened was around 5 million years ago when a layer of dolomite was deposited in the oceans around the world.

 

[BlindBoo]

Homeostasis is NEVER reached. Whenever there is an abundance of CO2 in the atmosphere, it enters the oceans and creates limestone.

The last time that happened was around 5 million years ago when a layer of dolomite was deposited in the oceans around the world.

It is in a mature forest. We've cut down most of the old forests that reached it. So anything growing in it's place is sucking CO2 from the atmosphere. We also sequester CO2 when we build with wood. The oceans are a carbon sink. Their ability to reduce atmospheric CO2 is limited. I remember it was the missing link to the question of where all the carbon went a decade or two ago. Scientist calculated that there should be more CO2 in the atmosphere.

 

[Mushroom]

We've cut down most of the old forests that reached it.

-yawn-