Zone1 Antisemites lie about Israel being an apartheid state

[JoeB131]

I don't suppose ya can clear up the whole "smirking punks" [plural] thing for us could ya...if ya need some inspiration I am smirking with every post.

I'm sure Ghosty will be around to explain it to you in detail as he whines for six pages about it.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

I'm sure Ghosty will be around to explain it to you in detail as he whines for six pages about it.

TRANSLATION: "OK ya got me again"

 

[DennisPTate]

Can someone object to the policies of the State of Israel and not be labeled an anti-Semite?

Yes!

Former Atheist and near death experiencer Rabbi Alon Anava has given a brilliant explanation as to why ten million Israelis are lied about and pushed and pushed and pushed in the direction of what could seem to be the finishing of what Adolf Hitler began during the 1930's. His youtube series is entitled "The Eruv Rav." I believe that Sir Winston CHURCHILL referred to essentially the same group of people who were based in London, England when he used the title, "The High Cabal."

Members of "The Eruv Rav" or "The High Cabal" may well dress and ACT Jewish, or Roman Catholic or Anglican or Baptist or Muslim or Latter day Saint but in fact they have been worshipping "Lucifer" and their religion goes back all the way to the time of The Tower of Babel in the Book of Genesis.

For the record these members of "The Eruv Rav" or "The High Cabal" are an extremely small percentage of every religion that they get involved in, but, they have access to a great deal of financing and we can connect them to "Why Big Oil Conquered The World."

Much like they do with the “genocide” lie, antisemites accuse Israel of being an apartheid state while ignoring the non-Jewish countries that are. This falsehood is driven both by blatant Jew-hate as well as the desire to advance it.

THIS is what an apartheid state does:
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I am in a rather interesting position because I think of myself as being "Jewish" or at minimum "Noahide" and I do believe that there are Jewish Rabbi's living in Israel who might just assist me with my application for Israeli citizenship because since 1990 I prayed about rather dangerous ideas from a very "Jewish" perspective and I got answers. I believe that I can prove that Shalom in all the nations of the earth, for all eight billion of us and for our children and grandchildren can originate in the little nation of Israel.

This idea is extremely simple and I believe that genuine Christians who take the words of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus, [Isa the Prophet to Muslims, Shalom be upon Him], seriously, will tend to support the LITERAL and allegorical fulfillment of every word in Ezekiel chapters forty to forty eight. I say this because the first

Fix your countries. Then talk.

Ok, I shall attempt to Fix Canada and 2026 is one of those years when I could potentially campaign for a low level political office which is a good way to begin my attempt to "FIX CANADA" AT THE SAME TIME THAT I ATTEMPT TO CONNECT THE FUTURE OF CANADA WITH THE FUTURE OF THE NATION OF ISRAEL AND ALL TEN MILLION ISRAELIS AND THEIR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN?

MEMBERS OF THE ERUV RAV AND THE HIGH CABAL ARE NEO-MALTHUSIAN IN THEIR ECONOMIC PHILOSOPHY!

IN A WAY THE BOOK OF JOB holds the key to understanding the history of the Jewish people and I believe that Job holds the key to the off the scale positive fulfillment of every word written in Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, the Minor Prophets, and in The Law of Moses and in the Writings of King David and King Solomon and others!


IF THE THEORY HAS VALIDITY THAT PERHAPS SATAN IS WORKING FOR MESSIAH YESHUA - JESUS, [ISA THE PROPHET TO MUSLIMS, SHALOM BE UPON HIM], THEN TEN MILLION ISRAELIS SHOULD DO THEIR HOMEWORK AND ATTEMPT TO GET MESSIAH YESHUA - JESUS ALSO WORKING FOR THEM....... WHICH IS CERTAINLY A DIFFERENT APPROACH THAN WAS ADVOCATED BY RABBI AKIVA AT THE TIME OF THE BAR KOCHBA REVOLT!

Zone1 Thread 'Does Satan work for Jesus?'

Dec 7, 2025

I admit that this question is going to be rather controversial but a pretty powerful case can be presented from The Book of Job as well as from the Christian scriptures that perhaps, Satan is obeying every command that he receives from Jesus, [who apparently has the authority to send people like near death experiencer Robert Marshall back to this earth with a mission that is relevant for all doctors and all nurses and all medical personnel in the USA and Canada and all the world]!

So if Satan is working for Jesus what is his job perhaps rather like?

Well, on one level I believe that...

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IF IT IS TRUE THAT HASHEM HAS POINTED OUT HIS NATION ISRAEL TO SATAN, THEN TEN MILLION ISRAELIS SHOULD EXPECT SOME PROBLEMS?

And the Lord said unto Satan, “Hast thou considered My servant Job, that there is none like him on the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one who feareth God and escheweth evil?”

9 Then Satan answered the Lord and said, “Doth Job fear God for nought?

10 Hast not Thou made a hedge about him and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? Thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance hath increased in the land.

11 But put forth Thine hand now and touch all that he hath, and he will curse Thee to Thy face!”

And the Lord said unto Satan, “Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand.” So Satan went forth from the presence of the Lord.
[Job 1]

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[Job 2]

Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the Lord.

2 And the Lord said unto Satan, “From whence comest thou?” And Satan answered the Lord and said, “From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking up and down upon it.”

3 And the Lord said unto Satan, “Hast thou considered My servant Job, that there is none like him on the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one who feareth God and escheweth evil? And still he holdeth fast his integrity, although thou movedst Me against him to destroy him without cause.”

And Satan answered the Lord and said, “Skin for skin, yea, all that a man hath will he give for his life.

5; But put forth Thine hand now and touch his bone and his flesh, and he will curse Thee to Thy face!”

6 And the Lord said unto Satan, “Behold, he is in thine hand; only spare his life.”

7 So went Satan forth from the presence of the Lord, and smote Job with sore boils from the sole of his foot unto his crown.

Bible Gateway passage: Job 1 - 21st Century King James Version

There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright, and one who feared God and eschewed evil. And there were born unto him seven sons and three daughters. His substance also was seven thousand sheep, and three thousand camels, and five hundred yoke of...

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[Ghost of a Rider]

I've been, well, I wouldn't call it debating because you aren't capable of that, with you long enough that you will come up with any excuse for bad behavior by White People, whether it be genocidal Zionists, smirking punks, or trigger-happy cops.

Is that what you think I'm doing here, making an excuse for bad behavior by white people?

But why was the order given? It wasn't a warship. And if they didn't know what it was, they risked killing third party bystanders..unless that was the intent.

The order was given because they couldn't identify the ship, they thought their troops had been shelled in El Arish and that the Liberty had been involved in that and, they were at war. Jesus Christ, it's not rocket science.

The attack on the Liberty was the ultimate blunder in a series of blunders by both sides. Most of the blunders were in the realm of communications; in a nutshell, too much happened in too short a time for communications to keep up. On both sides messages and orders were not received in a timely manner. The Liberty didn't receive the order to move out to a hundred miles off the coast until after the attack. The order went out from its source just after noon local time and wasn't received by the Liberty until about four hours later.

I'm not excusing the blunders; the Israelis fucked up big time and innocent people lost their lives. But neither am I going to jump right in with both feet and accuse them of cold blooded murder for some purpose we can only speculate on.

Well, sure it would make a difference, if their attack was to grab territory and not to respond to an imagined buildup. So it really depends on what they were afraid got intercepted.

Every article I find on the issue describes the events leading up to the war, including Egypt's force buildup at their border with Israel. The force buildup was because they closed the Strait of Tiran for the second time - an act which Israel made known to Egypt that if they closed the strait again (Egypt closed it the first time in 1956, precipitating the Suez Crisis) it would be construed as an act of war. Knowing that closing the strait would spark a military response from Israel, Egypt sent forces to their border with Israel. It's as simple as that.

I don't know where you get that it was imaginary.

Um, you don't attack things you can't identify. This is why when I was in the service, we spent a LOT of time on being able to identify friendly, enemy, or allied planes and vehicles.

No, you don't. Again, I'm not excusing the blunder; it was a huge blunder that cost innocent lives. I'm just saying I don't think it was deliberate.

Sure they do. But in your limited brain, it's just not possible that a duplicitous nation would have an ulterior motive.

Three things here:

1.) Your limited brain thinks the Egyptian force buildup was a fiction when it is a fact of recorded history.

2.) Even if the theories are plausible, they are not supported by evidence.

3.) Your personal opinion of Israel as a "duplicitous nation" is irrelevant.

Why would Israel pay Jonathan Pollard to spy on the US? Was that also an "accident"? Isreal seems to have more accidents than Nana in the nursing home.

Everybody spies on their allies as well as their adversaries. Everybody knows this, including every nation that spies.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

But what wasn't known at the time was why the sneak attack was carried out, or what the Zionists were saying among themselves.

I'm quite sure everyone knew about the force buildup at the border; they had been building for a month. In fact, contrary to what I said in the earlier post, the buildup happened before the closure of the Strait of Tiran.

Apparently the Soviets issued false information to Egypt and Syria that Israel was planning to attack Syria to effect a regime change. Nasser was criticized for not acting quickly and decisively enough on this "information" so as a show of support for Syria, he massed troops at the border.

Now you are deflecting. the fact is, they did attack a clearly marked American ship in international waters. And our government covered it up because they are too beholden to their government.

If you mean I'm deflecting from a purely speculative conspiracy theory, yes, I am.

 

[JoeB131]

The order was given because they couldn't identify the ship, they thought their troops had been shelled in El Arish and that the Liberty had been involved in that and, they were at war. Jesus Christ, it's not rocket science.

Shelled by a ship with no guns? really? that's a good trick.

I'm not excusing the blunders; the Israelis fucked up big time and innocent people lost their lives. But neither am I going to jump right in with both feet and accuse them of cold blooded murder for some purpose we can only speculate on.

You have to ignore a lot of facts.

THREE ATTACKS. As Ian Fleming said,

Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action

Every article I find on the issue describes the events leading up to the war, including Egypt's force buildup at their border with Israel. The force buildup was because they closed the Strait of Tiran for the second time - an act which Israel made known to Egypt that if they closed the strait again (Egypt closed it the first time in 1956, precipitating the Suez Crisis) it would be construed as an act of war. Knowing that closing the strait would spark a military response from Israel, Egypt sent forces to their border with Israel. It's as simple as that.

Wait, now, your agrument for a dastardly Zionist sneak attack was another dastardly Zionist sneak attack?

Israel was so in the wrong in 1956 that Eisenhower had to yank on their chain.

(Of course, this was long before our government was subverted by the Zionist Lobby.)

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Shelled by a ship with no guns? really? that's a good trick.

Don't be an idiot.

You have to ignore a lot of facts.

THREE ATTACKS. As Ian Fleming said,

Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action

An old aphorism does not count as evidence.

Wait, now, your agrument for a dastardly Zionist sneak attack was another dastardly Zionist sneak attack?

Israel was so in the wrong in 1956 that Eisenhower had to yank on their chain.

(Of course, this was long before our government was subverted by the Zionist Lobby.)

Irrelevant. You are now trying to deflect and simply double down on your anti-Zionist rhetoric. You said Egypt's buildup at the border was imaginary when everyone knows it happened.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

I'm sure Ghosty will be around to explain it to you in detail as he whines for six pages about it.

No, please, explain to them why you hate Sandmann even though it was proven that he didn't approach or harass the Native American as everyone initially thought. Explain to them why you had to find something else to hate him for because you were triggered by a hat.

 

[JoeB131]

Irrelevant. You are now trying to deflect and simply double down on your anti-Zionist rhetoric. You said Egypt's buildup at the border was imaginary when everyone knows it happened.

Um, Egypt has every right to deploy troops within her own borders... argument fail.

No, please, explain to them why you hate Sandmann even though it was proven that he didn't approach or harass the Native American as everyone initially thought. Explain to them why you had to find something else to hate him for because you were triggered by a hat.

No need to. He was a racist little punk who got outed on National TV.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Um, Egypt has every right to deploy troops within her own borders... argument fail.

Well that was a stupid goddamn thing to say. No one suggested they don't have a right to deploy troops within their own borders. But given that six Arab countries - Egypt, Jordan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Syria and Lebanon - were all massing troops on their borders with Israel, one can forgive Israel for thinking a massive attack by these countries was imminent and something needed to be done.

No need to. He was a racist little punk who got outed on National TV.

Who was then absolved by most of the people who thought like you when they saw the video. A fact you have yet to acknowledge. You are one of the few people who chose to still hate him for doing nothing more than standing there and smiling. Why? Because he's Catholic and pro-life.

 

[luiza]

People lie about Israel being an apartheid state​

Absolutely .
They are far too involved in Genocide , Infanticide and Torture Camps to bother with just Apartheid .

Come on Nutty Yahoo and Trumpfy -- invade some more countries .
Using the bigly Peaceful method naturally

 

[JoeB131]

Well that was a stupid goddamn thing to say. No one suggested they don't have a right to deploy troops within their own borders. But given that six Arab countries - Egypt, Jordan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Syria and Lebanon - were all massing troops on their borders with Israel, one can forgive Israel for thinking a massive attack by these countries was imminent and something needed to be done.

Well, first, in the Six Day War, only Egypt and Syria massed troops on the border (as you admit, because of a rumor that the Russians had spread about the Mossad staging a coup in Syria.) Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, and Iraq weren't involved, and Jordan only joined in because they felt they had to.

Who was then absolved by most of the people

Nobody cares about this punk except you.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Well, first, in the Six Day War, only Egypt and Syria massed troops on the border (as you admit, because of a rumor that the Russians had spread about the Mossad staging a coup in Syria.) Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, and Iraq weren't involved, and Jordan only joined in because they felt they had to.

But you said the buildup was imagined. Now you're not only contradicting your previous remarks, you're correcting me as to what countries were involved in the buildup that you said was imagined.

How is it you even remember how to breathe with these constant conflicts in your brain?

Nobody cares about this punk except you.

You may be right that nobody cares. But you care enough to hate him.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Um, yeah, we are worried about them building houses on stolen land, as we should be

Guess who lived there long before Muhammad

 

[JoeB131]

But you said the buildup was imagined.

Said nothing of the sort.

if you are just going to lie, there's no point talking to you.

Guess who lived there long before Muhammad

The Caananites, Phonecians, Edomites, Moabites, Philistines, etc.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Said nothing of the sort.

if you are just going to lie, there's no point talking to you.

Post #595. In response to this comment from me:

"Everybody would have known by that time what the manner of attacks was (preemptive) and Israel otherwise made no other attempts to hide that fact."

You said:

"Well, sure it would make a difference, if their attack was to grab territory and not to respond to an imagined buildup. So it really depends on what they were afraid got intercepted."

One of your theories is that Israel attacked the Liberty to hide the fact that their attacks against the Arab countries was a land grab and that their stated reason as being the force buildup at their borders was imagined.

How else am I to interpret this?

It's one thing to formulate a theory around the facts but it's another thing entirely to formulate facts around the theory. I mean, holy shit.

 

[PeterPilot]

Yes. Would you like my resume as well? And not Ben Rhodes. I'm not claiming he didn't describe himself that way. I'm saying that the phrase is meaningless.

It has meaning for those of us who consider English to be their primary language, and it's quite simple to determine the meaning.

Am I going back and forth with a bot or a real person?

 

[rosends]

It has meaning for those of us who consider English to be their primary language, and it's quite simple to determine the meaning.

Am I going back and forth with a bot or a real person?

My backgrounde in both things Jewish and English are quite strong. Since you think you know what it means, why not tell me what it means.

 

[Hafar1014]

Said nothing of the sort.

if you are just going to lie, there's no point talking to you.



The Caananites, Phonecians, Edomites, Moabites, Philistines, etc.

Jews

 

[JoeB131]

Post #595. In response to this comment from me:

"Everybody would have known by that time what the manner of attacks was (preemptive) and Israel otherwise made no other attempts to hide that fact."

You said:

"Well, sure it would make a difference, if their attack was to grab territory and not to respond to an imagined buildup. So it really depends on what they were afraid got intercepted."

Exactly my point. The goal was to grab territory, not because there were troops on the border.

One of your theories is that Israel attacked the Liberty to hide the fact that their attacks against the Arab countries was a land grab and that their stated reason as being the force buildup at their borders was imagined.

But it was a land grab.

How else am I to interpret this?

Well, you could apply a lick of common sense.