Zone1 Antisemites lie about Israel being an apartheid state

[Ghost of a Rider]

Exactly my point. The goal was to grab territory, not because there were troops on the border.

But there were troops on the border and they did not imagine that. Even if you're right that it was a land grab you still referred to the buildup as imaginary:

"...if their attack was to grab territory and not to respond to an imagined buildup."

But it was a land grab.

So the Israelis decided to do a land grab in the midst of over a hundred thousand enemy troops massing at their borders, getting ready to invade their country? You're seriously suggesting that they chose then to do a land grab?

Well, you could apply a lick of common sense.

I'm not the one suggesting the Israelis chose to try a land grab at this point instead of just doing it when they are not about to be invaded by troops from five ******* countries.

 

[JoeB131]

But there were troops on the border and they did not imagine that.

It's a border, it's supposed to have troops on it, dummy. But it was the Zionists who launched the first strike.

So the Israelis decided to do a land grab in the midst of over a hundred thousand enemy troops massing at their borders, getting ready to invade their country? You're seriously suggesting that they chose then to do a land grab?

Zionists have been grabbing land over there since the first Jew got thrown out of Europe. It's what they do.

The only reason why they traded back the Sinai is they realized after the 1973 war that it was largely undefendable.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

It's a border, it's supposed to have troops on it, dummy. But it was the Zionists who launched the first strike.

Don't be an idiot. There was a troop buildup over the course of a month that you know occurred but for some insane reason that escapes me, you said it was imagined.

History clearly documents a military buildup on Israel's borders and Nasser openly declared it in a speech on 5/30/1967 - just five days before Israel attacked- where he says:

"The armies of Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon are poised on the borders of Israel . . . . to face the challenge, while standing behind us are the armies of Iraq, Algeria, Kuwait, Sudan and the whole Arab nation. This act will astound the world. Today they will know that the Arabs are arranged for battle, the critical hour has arrived. We have reached the stage of serious action and not declarations.” – Nasser, May, 30, 1967 after signing a defense pact with Jordan’s King Hussein.

So no, this was not a simple matter of "It's a border, it's supposed to have troops on it...".

Zionists have been grabbing land over there since the first Jew got thrown out of Europe. It's what they do.

The only reason why they traded back the Sinai is they realized after the 1973 war that it was largely undefendable.

I really don't care. You said the buildup was imagined and it was not. You said it was a land grab as if Israel was only out to grab territory when troops and supporting troops from no less than eight Arab nations were poised to invade.

This is beyond ludicrous and I can't believe you actually had the balls to say it.

 

[JoeB131]

Don't be an idiot. There was a troop buildup over the course of a month t

You can go on all day, but the Israelis attacked first.

That puts them in the same category as the Japanese at Pearl Harbor.

I really don't care. You said the buildup was imagined and it was not. You said it was a land grab as if Israel was only out to grab territory when troops and supporting troops from no less than eight Arab nations were poised to invade.

Oh, is it 8 now? You'll just keep adding to that number, no doubt.

Sounds to me like these Arabs were responding to a European invasion.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

You can go on all day, but the Israelis attacked first.

That puts them in the same category as the Japanese at Pearl Harbor.

Irrelevant. I know they attacked first; that was never in dispute. You said the military buildup was imagined and it was not.

Oh, is it 8 now? You'll just keep adding to that number, no doubt.

Sounds to me like these Arabs were responding to a European invasion.

Did you not read the quote by Nasser? He himself named four countries massing troops on their borders with Israel and named four other countries contributing troops to the buildup. 4 + 4 = 8.

You wanna know what's pathetic about all this? I knew absolutely nothing about the Six Day War and even less about the attack on the Liberty before I entered this discussion five days ago.
When another poster referred to the attack on the Liberty as the "murder of 34 Americans" I decided to look into that. As a result, I managed to learn and understand more about both of these events in five days than you did in who knows how many years.

Not only is your perspective skewed by your anti-Zionism such that you ignore the Soviet Union's complicity in escalating tensions through false intelligence, as usual, you have resorted to lies in the form of painting a historically documented military buildup for the purpose of invasion as, at first, imaginary, then as simple border security.

Again, I don't know how you even remember how to breathe with all that garbage swirling around in your head.

 

[PeterPilot]

My backgrounde in both things Jewish and English are quite strong. Since you think you know what it means, why not tell me what it means.

I have better things to do with my time.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

I have better things to do with my time.

Yet you have chosen to spread antisemitism over the internet.

 

[PeterPilot]

Yet you have chosen to spread antisemitism over the internet.

I ain't alone Dogmaphile.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

I ain't alone .

True.

The vast majority of your fellow Muslims are antisemites.

 

[Lisa558]

Don't be an idiot. There was a troop buildup over the course of a month that you know occurred but for some insane reason that escapes me, you said it was imagined.

History clearly documents a military buildup on Israel's borders and Nasser openly declared it in a speech on 5/30/1967 - just five days before Israel attacked- where he says:

"The armies of Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon are poised on the borders of Israel . . . . to face the challenge, while standing behind us are the armies of Iraq, Algeria, Kuwait, Sudan and the whole Arab nation. This act will astound the world. Today they will know that the Arabs are arranged for battle, the critical hour has arrived. We have reached the stage of serious action and not declarations.” – Nasser, May, 30, 1967 after signing a defense pact with Jordan’s King Hussein.

So no, this was not a simple matter of "It's a border, it's supposed to have troops on it...".

I really don't care. You said the buildup was imagined and it was not. You said it was a land grab as if Israel was only out to grab territory when troops and supporting troops from no less than eight Arab nations were poised to invade.

This is beyond ludicrous and I can't believe you actually had the balls to say it.

I still have the antisemite on ignore, but obviously he is denying that the Jew-hating Arab countries were positioning their armies at Israel’s borders - poised to strike the next morning. Golda Meir saved the nation with her preemptive strike.

And of course that is why Joe the Jew-Hater is lying his ass off. Fifty years later, he’s still mad that the Islamists weren't able to launch another Holocaust, sending Israel and her Jews into oblivion.

Why the mods continue to allow the antisemites to spread their lies and promote Jew-hate remains a mystery.

 

[Lisa558]

I ain't alone Dogmaphile.

So you’re admitting that you are spreading antisemitism.

 

[Lisa558]

True.

The vast majority of your fellow Muslims are antisemites.

Peter Pirate (he might be one of those Somalis) is sad that Hitler didn’t have the Internet.

 

[rosends]

I have better things to do with my time.

So you insist it has meaning but you won't explain it. Yeah...that's not suspicious or anything. But run away if you wish.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

I still have the antisemite on ignore, but obviously he is denying that the Jew-hating Arab countries were positioning their armies at Israel’s borders - poised to strike the next morning. Golda Meir saved the nation with her preemptive strike.

And of course that is why Joe the Jew-Hater is lying his ass off. Fifty years later, he’s still mad that the Islamists weren't able to launch another Holocaust, sending Israel and her Jews into oblivion.

Why the mods continue to allow the antisemites to spread their lies and promote Jew-hate remains a mystery.

It all started when we were discussing the possible motive for the preemptive attack on Egypt. I was presented with two or three different theories on this from Joe and a couple of others. One of Joe's theories is that Israel's motive for their preemptive attacks was a land grab and not due to the "imagined buildup" of troops and military equipment and weapons at their borders.

I simply don't know where he comes up with the shit he does.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

I simply don't know where he comes up with the shit he does.

He starts with his hatred of Jews and then seeks out neo-Nazi and Islamist sites.

I watched the whole thing unfold when I was in the fifth grade. It was on the nightly news back when people were still following basic journalistic standards.

 

[Lisa558]

It all started when we were discussing the possible motive for the preemptive attack on Egypt. I was presented with two or three different theories on this from Joe and a couple of others. One of Joe's theories is that Israel's motive for their preemptive attacks was a land grab and not due to the "imagined buildup" of troops and military equipment and weapons at their borders.

I simply don't know where he comes up with the shit he does.

His antisemitism is so extreme that he’s out of touch with reality.

 

[JoeB131]

Irrelevant. I know they attacked first; that was never in dispute.

Then why are you wasting my time talking about it. Defensive troops (and they were defensive) on their border is not a good excuse to launch a sneak attack.

Did you not read the quote by Nasser?

Don't care. Egypt was perfectly within her rights to stage defensive troops on her own borders.

I still have the antisemite on ignore, but obviously he is denying that the Jew-hating Arab countries were positioning their armies at Israel’s borders - poised to strike the next morning. Golda Meir saved the nation with her preemptive strike.

Golda Meir wasn't the PM during the Six-Day War. Levi Eshkol was. Golda Meir was PM during the Yom Kippur War when Egypt figured out that they could do sneak attacks, too.

And of course that is why Joe the Jew-Hater is lying his ass off. Fifty years later, he’s still mad that the Islamists weren't able to launch another Holocaust, sending Israel and her Jews into oblivion.

Um, living next to people who want to murder you isn't very smart.

 

[JoeB131]

True.

The vast majority of your fellow Muslims are antisemites.

How can they be "anti-Semites" if they are a Semitic people themselves?

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Then why are you wasting my time talking about it. Defensive troops (and they were defensive) on their border is not a good excuse to launch a sneak attack.

You knew that was not what we were talking about and you knew I never disputed that Israel struck first. YOU, and only you, brought it up so you wasted your own time. We were talking about your saying the buildup was imagined.

What the hell is wrong with you?

Don't care. Egypt was perfectly within her rights to stage defensive troops on her own borders.

You pointed out that I said it was eight Arab countries arrayed against Israel so I pointed out that Nasser himself named eight countries massing troops or providing troops. Why are you talking about Egypt's right to assemble troops?

 

[FDR_Reagan]

I have better things to do with my time.

No you don't. Gabe/Peter