An excerpt from the excellent book, "How Democracies Die"

[berg80]

We have been shouting this from the fucking mountain tops for 4 years!!!

If so, it was very prescient of you to predict trump would launch in to this campaign of petulant, in some cases illegal, retribution.

 

[Godboy]

If so, it was very prescient of you to predict trump would launch in to this campaign of petulant, in some cases illegal, retribution.

Why are you calling justice "retribution"? They can commit years of lawfare against us and if we fire them for it you blame US?

 

[hadit]

I'm asking why you don't seeing as the firings are not right.

That begs the question why a president should tolerate an obvious conflict of interest.

 

[berg80]

Not firing them would be wrong. You WILL see lawfare in EVERY administration going foward if there arent consequences for those involved in it.

trump was investigated for his alleged crimes, grand juries voted to indict him, and career prosecutors did their job in making the case against him.

That isn't lawfare. That is what the system of justice working looks like.

Lawfare was what trump employed to prevent the cases from coming to trial before the election.

 

[Nostra]

His words are being taken out of context, as you know.

Would it be possible just this once for you not to inject a specious whataboutism in to the conversation?

Do you recognize what trump did in firing Smith's team is wrong?

Anyone US Attorney engaged in lawfare should be fired, and charged, Dumbass.

They are getting off light.

Cry more, loser.

 

[berg80]

That begs the question why a president should tolerate an obvious conflict of interest.

It begs the question why you would believe someone who was credibly charged with multiple violations of federal law.

 

[Billiejeens]

trump was investigated for his alleged crimes, grand juries voted to indict him, and career prosecutors did their job in making the case against him.

That isn't lawfare. That is what the system of justice working looks like.

Lawfare was what trump employed to prevent the cases from coming to trial before the election.

None of that is actually true.

 

[Godboy]

trump was investigated for his alleged crimes, grand juries voted to indict him, and career prosecutors did their job in making the case against him.

That isn't lawfare. That is what the system of justice working looks like.

Lawfare was what trump employed to prevent the cases from coming to trial before the election.

Thats fucking bullshit. Nah, fuck them and fuck you. They get what they get and no one gives a flying fuck what you or any dipshit lefty thinks about it.

Scorched earth now, motherfucker.

 

[Billiejeens]

It begs the question why you would believe someone who was credibly charged with multiple violations of federal law.

He wasn't credibly charged - real world.

 

[hadit]

It begs the question why you would believe someone who was credibly charged with multiple violations of federal law.

You do like to launch an inquiry, then abandon it to go in a different direction when someone brings up an inconvenient point, don't you? Deal with what I wrote, not your fantasy.

 

[Marener]

Why are you calling justice "retribution"? They can commit years of lawfare against us and if we fire them for it you blame US?

So Trump gets to declare what is and isn’t “lawfare”? Maybe these career prosecutors are entitled to due process before their careers are ruined.

 

[Hellokitty]

The law, passed in 2022, requiring a 30 day notice being given to Congress explaining in detail the rationale for firing a IG was broken.

What House or Senate Repub is going to be brave enough to do anything about it? No one.

Is the law constitutional? The SCOTUS gave a ruling over the summer stating the POTUS can fire these people with or without reason. So if Congress has an issue they will have to take it up with SCOTUS and see if the law they passed is constitutional. That's how the system works...

 

[Godboy]

So Trump gets to declare what is and isn’t “lawfare”?

Yep. Elections have consequences. You can whine, you can cry, but we wont care.

 

[Marener]

Yep. Elections have consequences. You can whine, you can cry, but we wont care.

So no due process for them. The leader declares something true and it’s now true.

Gotcha.

 

[Hellokitty]

I'm asking why you don't seeing as the firings are not right.

I voted for a revenge mandate, so I'm all good.

 

[Mac1958]

I don't blame Trump on Republicans. I blame him on Democrats.

Yep. This doesn't happen in a vacuum.

Is this a massive, manipulated over-reaction? Yes. But from the perspective of those perpetrating it, it's an opportunity.

The world has seen it before. This is what the base wants.

 

[sealybobo]

The law, passed in 2022, requiring a 30 day notice being given to Congress explaining in detail the rationale for firing a IG was broken.

What House or Senate Repub is going to be brave enough to do anything about it? No one.

Exactly. So get over it. If push comes to shove they'll accept any reason he gives. You can't stop it. All you can do is vote in 2026 and hope we take the House or Senate back so he can't get this stuff legally done.

Even if we control the House and impeach him, the Senate won't do shit about it. Look at what Mitch said after Jan 6th.

Feb 13, 2021 — Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell on Saturday delivered a searing address from the Senate floor condemning Donald Trump as “practically and morally responsible. He said he'd love to impeach him but he is no longer POTUS so it's for the courts to decide.

Then because Merrick Garland is a pussy and dragged his feet, the Jan 6 case got delayed till after the election. Trump won. That case goes bye bye.

Elections have consequences. The American people were fully warned. You don't like it? Neither do a lot of people who voted for Trump or voted 3rd party. Too late. Elections have consequences.

Once consequence is that elections will be rigged like Trump tried to steal 2020. Only he'll get away with it in the future. Who's gonna complain? You? Me?

 

[sealybobo]

I voted for a revenge mandate, so I'm all good.

Since your finances are shit may as well fuck things up for everyone else too huh?

 

[Billiejeens]

So Trump gets to declare what is and isn’t “lawfare”? Maybe these career prosecutors are entitled to due process before their careers are ruined.

If they had any integrity they would have resigned.

 

[Marener]

If they had any integrity they would have resigned.

You no longer understand the meaning of the word integrity.