Zone1 Allegory man, this thread is for you!!

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they knew all to well before the christian bible.

Who knew? And how do you know that?

 

[BreezeWood]

Who knew? And how do you know that?

really -

horns w/ an empty slate - they knew, the 1st century repudiation of judaism - false commandments hereditary idolatry religion of apartheid et al ... then came the day of the crucifiers who wrote the christian bible unraveling again the truth - self determination, the triumph over evil the heavenly goal for admission to the everlasting.

 

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really -

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horns w/ an empty slate - they knew, the 1st century repudiation of judaism - false commandments hereditary idolatry religion of apartheid et al ... then came the day of the crucifiers who wrote the christian bible unraveling again the truth - self determination, the triumph over evil the heavenly goal for admission to the everlasting.

There’s no evidence for that and you aren’t explaining how you know this.

 

[Donald H]

Why not?

You're better than this.

 

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You're better than this.

You must be confusing me for someone else.

 

[hobelim]

But most importantly your fake narrative doesn’t explain why Jesus was worshipped as God

That's easy.

SOME PEOPLE ARE NOT TOO SWIFT.

The disciples risked and lost their lives after Jesus appeared to them in dreams because that convinced them that Jesus survived the crucifixion and was living in the realm of God, the reward of the righteous.

 

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The disciples risked and lost their lives after Jesus appeared to them in dreams because that convinced them that Jesus survived the crucifixion and was living in the realm of God, the reward of the righteous.

No one is risking their lives and committing blasphemy and risking persecution, imprisonment and death over their dreams.

They saw the living God with their own eyes. They saw him perform miracles. They saw him rise from the dead after witnessing his brutal death. So they came out of hiding after Christ rose from the dead, realized he is God and boldly proclaimed he is God despite the risk of persecution, imprisonment and death. They knew it would be blasphemy if they did anything else.

Your whole “everything was a dream” theory isn’t supported by any evidence or the behaviors of the apostles.

 

[hobelim]

Which commands did Jesus convey? Can you cite the verses?

I'll give you one.

"It is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what comes out of the mouth; this defiles a person." Mat 15:11. Here Jesus is teaching that the subject of Kosher law is not food and what that Law is really is about.

You'll have to figure out the rest out for yourself if ever acquire the balls to reject the devil and all of his works of deception beguiling billions of people for thousands of years, the same lies that have you trapped in Gehenna like a rat or an unclean CREEPY creature feasting on the fetid superstitious crap discarded by higher intelligences under a strong delusion that the abundance of rotting trash to eat is a sign that you have been blessed by God.

Numbskull.

Just remember. "No one whose balls have been crushed can become a member of the assembly of the Lord."

ITS THE LAW

 

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I'll give you one.

"It is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what comes out of the mouth; this defiles a person." Mat 15:11. Here Jesus is teaching that the subject of Kosher law is not food and what that Law is really is about.

You'll have to figure out the rest out for yourself if ever acquire the balls to reject the devil and all of his works of deception beguiling billions of people for thousands of years, the same lies that have you trapped in Gehenna like a rat or an unclean CREEPY creature feasting on the fetid superstitious trash discarded by higher intelligences under a strong delusion that the abundance of garbage to eat is a sign that you have been blessed by God.

Numbskull.

Just remember. "No one whose balls have been crushed can become a member of the assembly of the Lord."

ITS THE LAW

You said all of his commands, dumb dumb.

And you couldn’t even get that one right. For the record, Jesus said he didn’t come to abolish any laws, dipshit.

 

[hobelim]

No one is risking their lives and committing blasphemy and risking persecution, imprisonment and death over their dreams.


Your whole “everything was a dream” theory isn’t supported by any evidence or the behaviors of the apostles.

I have said that every eyewitness account of seeing Jesus after the crucifixion was an eyewitness account of what was seen and heard in dreams. And yes, according to their Jewish beliefs, dreams are the medium trough which God communicates to humans. Seeing Jesus in a dream after he died would have convinced them that he survived death and was living in the realm of God, the reward of the righteous, which gave them the faith and courage to suffer and die for Jesus knowing that, because of their faith, they would survive death too.

 

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Moses said would be sent by God to "convey all of his commands."

No Moses did not say that. He said he would demand obedience. Jesus himself said that he did not come to abolish the law.

Moses spoke about the coming of a "Prophet like me" from the midst of the Israelite brothers, who would be sent by God to speak divine words and demand obedience from the people. This prophecy, found in Deuteronomy 18:15-19, is widely interpreted in Jewish and Christian traditions as referring to the Messiah. Whoever would not listen to the prophet's words spoken in God's name would be held accountable.

 

[hobelim]

You said all of his commands, dumb dumb
And you couldn’t even get that one right. For the record, Jesus said he didn’t come to abolish any laws, dipshit.

So what. I gave you one. I was feeling generous. And I never said that Jesus came to abolish the law asswipe.

He came to reveal the wisdom of God hidden in the law. And after this revelation the only thing that became obsolete was the wrong way to understand and comply with the law according to the teaching in the talmud, what Jesus called the traditions of men, the same ignorant perverse way that you interpret the law, not the law itself. The same ignorant perverse way to understand and comply with the law that Jesus lived and died fighting.

You have been found guilty of engaging in buggery with whatever priest got you to lift your skirt for his mangod.

Pervert.

 

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I have said that every eyewitness account of seeing Jesus after the crucifixion was an eyewitness account of what was seen and heard in dreams. And yes, according to their Jewish beliefs, dreams are the medium trough which God communicates to humans. Seeing Jesus in a dream after he died would have convinced them that he survived death and was living in the realm of God, the reward of the righteous, which gave them the faith and courage to suffer and die for Jesus knowing that, because of their faith, they would survive death too.

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No one is risking their lives and committing blasphemy and risking persecution, imprisonment and death over their dreams.

They saw the living God with their own eyes. They saw him perform miracles. They saw him rise from the dead after witnessing his brutal death. So they came out of hiding after Christ rose from the dead, realized he is God and boldly proclaimed he is God despite the risk of persecution, imprisonment and death. They knew it would be blasphemy if they did anything else.

Your whole “everything was a dream” theory isn’t supported by any evidence or the behaviors of the apostles.

 

[Hafar1014]

Yeah, so what. I gave you one. And I never said that Jesus came to abolish the law asswipe.

He came to reveal the wisdom of God hidden in the law. And after this revelation the only thing that became obsolete was the wrong way to understand and comply with the law according to the talmud, what Jesus called the traditions of men, the same ignorant perverse way that you interpret the law, not the law itself.

You have been found guilty of engaging in buggery with whatever priest got you to lift your skirt for his mangod.

Pervert.

Moses already did that gave Gods law to the world

 

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Yeah, so what. I gave you one. And I never said that Jesus came to abolish the law asswipe.

He came to reveal the wisdom of God hidden in the law. And after this revelation the only thing that became obsolete was the wrong way to understand and comply with the law according to the talmud, what Jesus called the traditions of men, the same ignorant perverse way that you interpret the law, not the law itself.

You have been found guilty of engaging in buggery with whatever priest got you to lift your skirt for his mangod.

Pervert.

And yet you would abolish Kosher law because it’s not about what goes into their mouths.

Go ahead and tell me another law Jesus would “convey.” After all you did say he would “convey” them all, right?

 

[hobelim]

Moses already did that gave Gods law to the world

Yes, and Moses said that after his death the people would turn aside from THE WAY he taught to follow the law.

 

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Yes, and Moses said that after his death the people would turn aside from THE WAY he taught to follow the law.

That’s not what he said. In the final chapters of Deuteronomy, Moses warned the people of Israel that after his death they would become corrupt and turn away from "the way" he had commanded them. This prediction, did not involve turning away from his teachings to instead follow the law; rather, it described their turning away from the law and towards idolatry. Jesus was sent to turn them back. Even you admitted that Jesus was sent to convey the law.

 

[hobelim]

And yet you would abolish Kosher law because it’s not about what goes into their mouths.

Give it up ding. You are like a rat caught in a trap of your own design.

Go ahead and tell me another law Jesus would “convey.” After all you did say he would “convey” them all, right?

I have given enough reasons for any reasonable person to rethink their entire belief system. Read the book.

Figure it out yourself you lazy bastard.

 

[hobelim]

That’s not what he said.

In the final chapters of Deuteronomy, Moses warned the people of Israel that after his death they would become corrupt and turn away from "the way" he had commanded them.

First you say thats not what he said and then post proof that thats exactly what he said.

Good job!

 

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Give it up ding. You are like a rat caught in a trap of your own design.


I have given enough reasons for any reasonable person to rethink their entire belief system. Read the book.

Figure it out yourself you lazy bastard.

Why? I’m beating your ass. I’m more than happy to keep letting out rope so you can hang yourself and show everyone your true colors.