Abolish the ‘Undemocratic’ Electoral College?

[BackAgain]

The participation trophy mindset that losers are owed a victory is not defensible.

I don’t care about participation trophies. It would be nice, though, if you could address the actual topic.

 

[Greenbeard]

I don’t care about participation trophies.

It appears to be a deeply held principle for you.

I’m advocating for the winner to win.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

MSN

Senate Democrats are moving to try to abolish the Electoral College after their party suffered defeats up and down the ballot in November’s elections.

Democratic members of the Senate Judiciary Committee released the S.J. Res. 121 on Dec. 12, which proposes a Constitutional amendment to do away with the Electoral College system altogether and replace it with a simple national popular vote system. Senate Democrats Brian Schatz of Hawaii, Dick Durbin of Illinois and Peter Welch of Vermont sponsored the resolution.

Comment:
The Democrats are cheaters.
They can't win fairly so they want to change the rules.
It would take a constitutional amendment to abolish the electoral college.
That will never happen.

That will never happen. So this OP seems a complete waste of time.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

It was a great idea!!! The problem is the states were given the power to change that, and they did...and they manipulated it to what was their advantage and not we the people's.

The electoral advantage the small states were given, was simply the two electors, representing their two US senators.....this gave an unpopulated state like a Wyoming would get two electors for their senators (and one elector representing their 1, US congressman), and a state the humongous size of California, would only get two electors representing their US senators....with no regard of population.... That gives smaller states a slightly weighted advantage in electors, that does not represent the number of people within their state.

Winner takes all defeats the founder's intent.

So that is why they left up to the states to select their electoral voters. States are free to choose as they wish, just as Maine and Nebraska have chosen differently.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The U.S. is a constitutional republic and the U.S. has a Electoral College. The U.S. is not a constitutional republic because it has an Electoral College.

Every state is required by the Constitution to have a republican form of government, and every state does. No state uses an electoral college to select its chief executive, all use popular votes.

Wow! A statement that could not be any falser if you typed it in Cyrillic.

 

[Robert W]

I think legalizing slavery says to me that the state was bad.

I just posted a photo of some actual slaves.

Would we feel sorry for the ladies?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Geographical location of the voter is irrelevant under a popular vote system.

All the more reason not to go with that as the method to select a President. Ever wonder why most of the first US presidents were from Virginia? Because it had the largest population, as well as the largest geographical size. Three states make up what it was at the time of the Constitution.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

It appears to be a deeply held principle for you.

I’m advocating for the winner to win.

The winner of the most states does win. There are 51 state and DC elections on Election Day. Whoever wins the most states, weighted by population wins.

 

[BackAgain]

It appears to be a deeply held principle for you.

By no metric known to man or science.

I’m advocating for the winner to win.

No. You’re arguing for the political party of the big cities to get the win endlessly.

 

[Greenbeard]

No. You’re arguing for the political party of the big cities to get the win endlessly.

The population of the United States is 80% urban.

 

[BackAgain]

The population of the United States is 80% urban.

Did I say shit about “urban?”

 

[alang1216]

I just posted a photo of some actual slaves.

Would we feel sorry for the ladies?

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You're joking right? Please tell me you're not excusing slavery.

 

[Robert W]

You're joking right? Please tell me you're not excusing slavery.

I was a slave of the US Government from 1962 to 1964. Why does well dressed slaves bother you when Franklin Roosevelt set into motion for me to later be a slave of the Army?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

It's not going to happen. Demoquacks don't have the muscle

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The population of the United States is 80% urban.

So?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I was a slave of the US Government from 1962 to 1964. Why does well dressed slaves bother you when Franklin Roosevelt set into motion for me to later be a slave of the Army?

No. You were not. You might have been drafted, but that is not slavery. Thank you!

 

[Robert W]

No. You were not. You might have been drafted, but that is not slavery. Thank you!

What was I free to do Admiral? As I recall those days, every day I was used by the Army.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

What was I free to do Admiral? As I recall those days, every day I was used by the Army.

SCOTUS has ruled that the draft is not slavery, in case you did not know.

 

[Robert W]

SCOTUS has ruled that the draft is not slavery, in case you did not know.

That means I was always able to be where I wanted to be, not follow any orders, and refuse to be taken to Germany on Air Force planes. That as the Company Clerk, I had no duty to obey orders. Glad the Supreme Court cleared that up.

 

[Robert W]

I think legalizing slavery says to me that the state was bad.

Slavery was approved by the Supreme Court. Even Washington and Jefferson for instance had huge numbers of slaves.