Abolish the ‘Undemocratic’ Electoral College?

[Greenbeard]

It a with our Constitutional republic.

And if we were to make the mistake of amending the Constitution to abolish the EC, we would be ceding our government to those who prefer the tyranny of the majority in our future elections. Our nation would change dramatically for the worse.

Letting the top vote getter assume public office is not “tyranny of the majority,” it’s called “an election.” It’s how we fill every other public office in the country.

 

[BackAgain]

Letting the top vote getter assume public office is not “tyranny of the majority,” it’s called “an election.” It’s how we fill every other public office in the country.

When the concentration of our libtard Democraps is found in the biggest cities in our land, the elimination of our EC is very likely to result in more Democratics getting elected to the Presidency. This may be the outcome you desire.

But at least with the EC, the voting power of the liberal elitist cities will not be a guaranteed “win” for them time and time and time again.

 

[Greenbeard]

When the concentration of our libtard Democraps is found in the biggest cities in our land, the elimination of our EC is very likely to result in more Democratics getting elected to the Presidency. This may be the outcome you desire.

But at least with the EC, the voting power of the liberal elitist cities will not be a guaranteed “win” for them time and time and time again.

Geographical location of the voter is irrelevant under a popular vote system.

 

[para bellum]

Barring that, however, the 1920s era cap on the side of the House of Representatives should be lifted. Dramatically increasing the size of the House to reflect the last century of population growth will go a long way toward rectifying the absurd distortions (to the detriment of states like California) that result from trying to allocate the current 538 votes among the states. Plus it’s easy and requires no Constitutional amendment, just a law.

That would dilute the the EC votes of the smaller States a little, but mostly it would just add a bunch more Reps to the House, who already can't get anything done with 435 members...

 

[BackAgain]

Geographical location of the voter is irrelevant under a popular vote system.

Depends on how you structure it.

Your suggestion is to essentially take the States out of the equation.

Example. If the majority of voters in State X vote for the candidate with fewer votes overall, nationwide, their votes are not counted despite the fact that, with other one state, they were the majority.

 

[alang1216]

I am not bringing up working by people. I asked what state had bad behaviors.

I think legalizing slavery says to me that the state was bad.

 

[alang1216]

Are you concerned that slavery is going to make a comeback without the heavy hand of the Federal Government constantly intervening in State level affairs?

I was asked for an example and provided a particularly egregious one. Don't think for a moment that is the only example there is.

 

[alang1216]

Alas, ******* assholes llke you don’t get the fact that we are (very intentionally) not a democracy. We are, thank God, instead a Constitutional republic. Part and of that entails the designed avoidance of the tyrant of a majority.

Shitbags, such as the uneducated twits like you, cannot grasp the brilliant reasons for our Electoral College.

The reasons for it are already explained.

You just don’t like it because it stands in the way of your tyranny.

Being in the minority you likely prefer a tyranny of the minority over the tyranny of the majority but that doesn't always end well. How many revolutions have resulted from minority rule?

 

[Greenbeard]

Depends on how you structure it.

Your suggestion is to essentially take the States out of the equation.

Example. If the majority of voters in State X vote for the candidate with fewer votes overall, nationwide, their votes are not counted despite the fact that, with other one state, they were the majority.

I’m in favor of counting the votes of every American citizen, regardless of where they cast their votes.

 

[Contumacious]

A popular vote for the president is not incompatible with republicanism.

Let me stress and emphasize that in an CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC our rights are secured by the Constitution and are NOT dependent on electoral majorities.

So not scumbag can claim that they have a mandate and want to get abolish or limit , let's say , our 2A !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Greenbeard]

Let me stress and emphasize that in an CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC our rights are secured by the Constitution and are NOT dependent on electoral majorities.

So not scumbag can claim that they have a mandate and want to get abolish or limit , let's say , our 2A !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No kidding. Our rights are protected. Our leader should be selected by the people.

 

[Mack Brazile]

MSN

Senate Democrats are moving to try to abolish the Electoral College after their party suffered defeats up and down the ballot in November’s elections.

Democratic members of the Senate Judiciary Committee released the S.J. Res. 121 on Dec. 12, which proposes a Constitutional amendment to do away with the Electoral College system altogether and replace it with a simple national popular vote system. Senate Democrats Brian Schatz of Hawaii, Dick Durbin of Illinois and Peter Welch of Vermont sponsored the resolution.

Comment:
The Democrats are cheaters.
They can't win fairly so they want to change the rules.
It would take a constitutional amendment to abolish the electoral college.
That will never happen.

Democrats are in no position and don't have the votes to change anything! They should have tried to make changes in 2008 when they had all 3 Branches of government. Nobody cares what they want now

 

[Greenbeard]

Democrats are in no position and don't have the votes to change anything! They should have tried to make changes in 2008 when they had all 3 Branches of government. Nobody cares what they want now

But Trump agrees! The popular vote is what matters, making elections reliant on the EC is a mistake.

 

[BackAgain]

Being in the minority you likely prefer a tyranny of the minority over the tyranny of the majority but that doesn't always end well. How many revolutions have resulted from minority rule?

That was a stupid and ignorant post.

I am in the majority.

I don’t like any tyranny. Unlike you, Elaine.

 

[BackAgain]

I’m in favor of counting the votes of every American citizen, regardless of where they cast their votes.

So, you’re in favor of simple majority rules regardless of the fact that the majority might come mostly from just 10 States.

That’s why we don’t have a simple majority election process.

 

[Greenbeard]

So, you’re in favor of simple majority rules regardless of the fact that the majority might come mostly from just 10 States.

That’s why we don’t have a simple majority election process.

If literally every voter in the ten most populous states votes for a candidate and that candidate wins most of the votes cast, of course that candidate should win. There’s no viable contrary argument.

 

[BackAgain]

If literally every voter in the ten most populous states votes for a candidate and that candidate wins most of the votes cast, of course that candidate should win. There’s no viable contrary argument.

Actually, there is no valid argument in favor of it.

What you are contending gives the decision to just those ten states.

 

[Greenbeard]

Actually, there is no valid argument in favor of it.

What you are contending gives the decision to just those ten states.

No, it gives the decision to the plurality of voters. There's no viable argument that the candidate who gets fewer votes should win.

 

[BackAgain]

No, it gives the decision to the plurality of voters. There's no viable argument that the candidate who gets fewer votes should win.

Repeating your misguided and erroneous view doesn’t support it.

You’re welcome.

 

[Greenbeard]

Repeating your misguided and erroneous view doesn’t support it.

You’re welcome.

The participation trophy mindset that losers are owed a victory is not defensible.