Debate Now A Hard Look at the MAGA Movement

[progressive hunter]

Yes, but it should be up to the states to decide if abortion is wrong or not. Also, we should stop having tax dollars going for abortions, because if the woman wants to murder her own child, then she should pay for that execution. When the bill comes due, she might have a change of heart the next time.

NOPE!!!

the intentional killing of an innocent living human being is the feds business,,

you even said MURDER,, so its not a state issue

 

[HikerGuy83]

of course its a contract,,

its churchs that should be pushing it not schools,,
the schools are already having problems with what they are supposed to be doing,,

in my case I the man dropped below the poverty line while she with the kids moved into a brand new house,,

and then I was hounded and even put in jail because I couldnt keep up with her bills while also being with the kids and providing them with a home,,

Sounds like a bummer.

 

[HikerGuy83]

of course its a contract,,

Not the til death do you part.....part.

 

[eagle1462010]

1. Is it true that America has lost it's status as a great country?

America is in decline Morally, Financially, and other world powers are challenging our Greatness.

2. What policies and legislation does the MAGA movement claim should be implemented?

Less government Regulations, Energy Independence, Secure Borders, and draining the cess pool Swamp of Washington.

3. Assuming America is no longer a great country, will these policies work to restore America to it's former greatness?

The Globalist/WEF have spent us into insanity. They have every intention of taking us under. Can this be stopped? Doubtfull. The debt is through the roof. I dont think anyone can stop that now. We are too far in debt.

They will reset us. Then basically try to enslave us.

 

[eagle1462010]

To the comments of when was it great??.

I grew up in the Leave it to Beaver days. Back then one man could work and support a family. Get a home and have a comfortable life.

Not so anymore. The Career corrupt politicians have fucked us.

 

[Seymour Flops]

2. What policies and legislation does the MAGA movement claim should be implemented?

Less government Regulations, Energy Independence, Secure Borders, and draining the cess pool Swamp of Washington.

Here is a very informative recent press release about the costs of Biden's new regulations, compared to both Obama and Trump:

Chairman Arrington Responds to American Action Forum (AAF) Report: Biden’s Regulations Costing Nearly $1.4 Trillion | The U.S. House Committee on the Budget - House Budget Committee

The Official U.S. Congressional website of The Republican Budget Committee

budget.house.gov

Four more years of Biden or any other big regulating Democrat might well break us. Then we would not even be a good nation, much less a great one.

 

[Foxfyre]

First let's look's at what MAGA is?
It is a political movement that emerged in the United States during the 2016 presidential campaign of its putative leader, Donald Trump. Its name is derived from Trump’s 2016 campaign slogan “Make America Great Again,” which became a rallying cry for many Trump supporters during his candidacy, presidency (2017–21), and beyond.

MAGA movement | Meaning, Beliefs, Origins, Donald Trump, & Facts | Britannica

The MAGA movement is a nativist political movement that emerged in the United States during the 2016 presidential campaign of its putative leader, Donald Trump. Its name is derived from Trump’s 2016 campaign slogan “Make America Great Again,” which became a rallying cry for many Trump supporters.

www.britannica.com

The MAGA movement (often referred to simply as MAGA, or Make America Great Again), was founded on the belief that the United States was once a “great” country but has lost this status owing to foreign influence, both within its borders (via immigration and multiculturalism) and without (via globalization, or the increased integration of multiple national economies).

1. Is it true that America has lost it's status as a great country?
2. What policies and legislation does the MAGA movement claim should be implemented?
3. Assuming America is no longer a great country, will these policies work to restore America to it's former greatness?

MAGA or Make America Great Again is the slogan for a strong, secure, prosperous American with liberty, choices, options, and opportunity for all. There is no one nor just a few reasons it is not that now, but an out of control authoritarian too intrusive too expensive government, open borders, a breakdown in traditional values, an assault on American history, faith, traditions, culture and a government interested its own power instead of serving the people and more all contribute to America's decline.

The MAGA goal is to restore America to be the amazing country it was intended to be.

 

[WelfareQueen]

First let's look's at what MAGA is?
It is a political movement that emerged in the United States during the 2016 presidential campaign of its putative leader, Donald Trump. Its name is derived from Trump’s 2016 campaign slogan “Make America Great Again,” which became a rallying cry for many Trump supporters during his candidacy, presidency (2017–21), and beyond.

MAGA movement | Meaning, Beliefs, Origins, Donald Trump, & Facts | Britannica

The MAGA movement is a nativist political movement that emerged in the United States during the 2016 presidential campaign of its putative leader, Donald Trump. Its name is derived from Trump’s 2016 campaign slogan “Make America Great Again,” which became a rallying cry for many Trump supporters.

www.britannica.com

The MAGA movement (often referred to simply as MAGA, or Make America Great Again), was founded on the belief that the United States was once a “great” country but has lost this status owing to foreign influence, both within its borders (via immigration and multiculturalism) and without (via globalization, or the increased integration of multiple national economies).

1. Is it true that America has lost it's status as a great country?
2. What policies and legislation does the MAGA movement claim should be implemented?
3. Assuming America is no longer a great country, will these policies work to restore America to it's former greatness?

The elites of both political parties sold us out to global corporate interests. The elites of both parties do not give a crap about everyday Americans. An America first policy means our political leaders must make America and the American people their first priority. That is the movement in a nutshell. I do not understand how anyone can logically argue against that position.

 

[Foxfyre]

The elites of both political parties sold us out to global corporate interests. The elites of both parties do not give a crap about everyday Americans. An America first policy means our political leaders must make America and the American people their first priority. That is the movement in a nutshell. I do not understand how anyone can logically argue against that position.

The reason the GOP establishment, all the Democrats and their surrogate media and institutions have tried to take Trump down is because he isn't one of them and he is a threat to their personal positions and power. He is neither politician nor ideologue. He doesn't think of things as issues or dogma or in partisan terms. He sees problems that need to be fixed or goals that need to be reached for the good of America and Americans and he digs in to find a way to do that.

 

[irosie91]

"...all the Democrats and their surrogate media and institutions have tried to take Trump down is because he isn't one of them and he is a threat to their personal positions and power. He is neither politician nor ideologue..." <<< excellent!!!!!

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Is it true that America has lost it's status as a great country?

No.

It is true that Trump’s policies are a threat to America’s greatness – along with its democratic institutions.

 

[progressive hunter]

No.

It is true that Trump’s policies are a threat to America’s greatness – along with its democratic institutions.

your premise is a lie,,

if he was a threat you would explain how instead of just a random comment without evidence,,

 

[eagle1462010]

No.

It is true that Trump’s policies are a threat to America’s greatness – along with its democratic institutions.

You are a Cancer on this Nation.

Your Lies do not work here

 

[WelfareQueen]

No.

It is true that Trump’s policies are a threat to America’s greatness – along with its democratic institutions.

Yes, I would be fascinated to know specifically how Trump's policies are a threat to America. Your statement is identical to the blather that comes out of the Corporate Media. All ad hominem attacks with zero factual back up.

Like the Corporate Media, am I just supposed to believe you? Because there is nothing to debate if you provide no facts or details.

 

[candycorn]

1. Is it true that America has lost it's status as a great country?

No. Not at all. What you see though is more parity between other nations and our own. Thomas Friedman wrote about the three great democratizations that went along with globalism. The democratization of information, finance, and technology have leveled the playing field.

2. What policies and legislation does the MAGA movement claim should be implemented?

If you mean Project 2025...they have disavowed that...the same way the blob’s nominees said Roe was safe. But lets pretend that they don’t want pure anarchy for a moment....

Outside of mass deportation, they have no policies other than “making America great again”. The sad thing is though...they may not need any in this day and age.

Its bizarre. The people at the convention hall do not even know their own party’s policies.

June 21, 2024:

Trump says foreigners who graduate from US colleges should get green cards By Reuters

Trump says foreigners who graduate from US colleges should get green cards

m.investing.com

Then the had some guy from the Teamsters addressing the crowd saying that Trump will protect American workers--less than a month ago he was talking about importing talent.

The same guy was talking about expanding worker protections. Zero point zero republicans are in favor of that. But it sounds good on TV so...what the hell?

3. Assuming America is no longer a great country, will these policies work to restore America to it's former greatness?

There are no policies outside of mass deportation. So will that one work? Nope. Unless you like the idea of $3 for a head of lettuce. When you deport labor, the price of labor will go up. Simple supply and demand. So when labor costs go up...prices will go up too.

As for the other policies that leading republicans have talked about---

Fetus personhood...it probably won’t do much either way but everyone will have to get new drivers licenses since we all will instantly become nine months older than we are now.

Getting rid of birthright citizenship. We’ll have guys walking around asking you to prove you’re a citizen on the spot I guess.

Getting rid of Obamacare. Its hard to see how 40M people losing healthcare access will make us “great” again.

 

[progressive hunter]

No. Not at all. What you see though is more parity between other nations and our own. Thomas Friedman wrote about the three great democratizations that went along with globalism. The democratization of information, finance, and technology have leveled the playing field.

If you mean Project 2025...they have disavowed that...the same way the blob’s nominees said Roe was safe. But lets pretend that they don’t want pure anarchy for a moment....

Outside of mass deportation, they have no policies other than “making America great again”. The sad thing is though...they may not need any in this day and age.

Its bizarre. The people at the convention hall do not even know their own party’s policies.

June 21, 2024:

Trump says foreigners who graduate from US colleges should get green cards By Reuters

Trump says foreigners who graduate from US colleges should get green cards

m.investing.com

Then the had some guy from the Teamsters addressing the crowd saying that Trump will protect American workers--less than a month ago he was talking about importing talent.

The same guy was talking about expanding worker protections. Zero point zero republicans are in favor of that. But it sounds good on TV so...what the hell?


There are no policies outside of mass deportation. So will that one work? Nope. Unless you like the idea of $3 for a head of lettuce. When you deport labor, the price of labor will go up. Simple supply and demand. So when labor costs go up...prices will go up too.

As for the other policies that leading republicans have talked about---

Fetus personhood...it probably won’t do much either way but everyone will have to get new drivers licenses since we all will instantly become nine months older than we are now.

Getting rid of birthright citizenship. We’ll have guys walking around asking you to prove you’re a citizen on the spot I guess.

Getting rid of Obamacare. Its hard to see how 40M people losing healthcare access will make us “great” again.

 

[JoeB131]

Un-Vetted criminals walk in to add to our pains. Nothing is improved over 2019. Ignoring the next 2020 data post after the Chinese allowed to launch and spread Flu with DEM help to kill the Country. That was not GREAT, to steal the Election, plain and simple.

The Chinese didn't "launch" anything. They warned Trump in 2019, this was a problem, and Trump thanked Xi for his help.

The failure of Covid was all on Trump.

 

[surada]

My apologies.

I don't expect the left to stick up for our Constitution. I thought that was understood.

I have detested Joe Biden for years (since 1987).

I EXPECT the GOP to be purveyers of the 10th amendment.....and to uphold the constitution as directing a specific government. The GOP has failed me in that regard.

The RNC never mentions the 10th. They are worthless.

Trump said he never took an oath to uphold or defend the Constitution.

 

[surada]

Trump on Truth Social this afternoon.

"Crooked Joe Biden was not fit to run for President, and is certainly not fit to serve - And never was! He only attained the position of President by lies, Fake News, and not leaving his Basement," Trump wrote on Truth Social. "All those around him, including his Doctor and the Media, knew that he wasn’t capable of being President, and he wasn’t."

"And now, look what he’s done to our Country, with millions of people coming across our Border, totally unchecked and unvetted, many from prisons, mental institutions, and record numbers of terrorists. We will suffer greatly because of his presidency, but we will remedy the damage he has done very quickly. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!" he wrote.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Trump said he never took an oath to uphold or defend the Constitution.

So ? Not sure what that has to do with what I posted.

Trump can say all he wants.

He appointed three GREAT SCOTUS judges. That's all I need.